As if Political Campaigns were't bad enough before......

[OL FU]

You know if we didn't have as much government intervention in the economy their wouldn't be as much corruption in our legislators...there would be no point.

Strike up the band for YT

[D1B]

YT, capitalism is flawed. It is a highly dangerous, greed-based economic system when left unchecked.

I agree if you mean less direct government investment in the economy (spending), but unfortunatley we need the government to protect us from the negative effects of capitalism.

No pure economic system is the best.

The next question is....who is going to protect us from the government?

Term limits and voters.

[bobbythekidd]

Term limits and involved/educated voters.

FIFY

[kalm]

Re: The topic - the activist, Supreme Corporation drove another nail into our Democracy today.

The Corporations already have too much power - this is disgusting.

Regardless of the outcome in this particular case, it is a fact that corporations are not human beings. Consolidation of power does not increase freedom and democracy.

All you little fascisti would make uncle Benito proud.

[GannonFan]

In the end, this SCOTUS ruling will not change anything, other than continue the process of peeling away the terrible legislation (although good intent) that was McCain/Feingold. There will always, always be tons of money in politics and campaigns. To think this ruling alone opens the floodgates to that is to simply ignore the lack of floodgates over the past, well, forever, as huge amounts of money have been used to campaign. I'd rather have as much clarity of who's giving to whom and why than the proxy shenanigans that has cropped up in the 8 years since this bad law was put into effect. But to think that this ruling will result in some watershed amount of spending for campaigns just ignores the reality that there always is absurd amounts of money in campaigns.

[native]

YT, capitalism is flawed. It is a highly dangerous, greed-based economic system when left unchecked.

I agree if you mean less direct government investment in the economy (spending), but unfortunatley we need the government to protect us from the negative effects of capitalism.

No pure economic system is the best.

Government involvement has only harmed our economy. In short it has devalued our currency to where our charity is ineffective, slows economic growth through high taxes and regulation, and creates credit out of thin air which ultimately leads to our economic problems. lastly, when we protect ourselves from the negative effects of capitalismessentially all we're doing is socializing losses and privatizing profits. if we left those losses alone the economic drawback would be far less than if we bailed it out (see the depression of 1920-1921)

Who is this thoughtful, informed alien mind that has infiltrated young pup's keyboard? Maybe aliens are a good thing.

[youngterrier]

End the fed by ron paul changed my outlook on things..it can change your's too

[native]

End the fed by ron paul changed my outlook on things..it can change your's too

Thank you for the recommendation. I will look for it!

[native]

YT, capitalism is flawed. It is a highly dangerous, greed-based economic system when left unchecked.

I agree if you mean less direct government investment in the economy (spending), but unfortunatley we need the government to protect us from the negative effects of capitalism.

No pure economic system is the best.

The next question is....who is going to protect us from the government?

The answer is the people, standing on the shoulders of the Founders and the Second Amendment.

[hank scorpio]

Hastening the end of political parties? This is an interesting view.

http://www.hereandnow.org/media-player/ ... 2010-01-22

[native]

You know if we didn't have as much government intervention in the economy their wouldn't be as much corruption in our legislators...there would be no point.

...from the mouths of babes...

[ASUMountaineer]

End the fed by ron paul changed my outlook on things..it can change your's too

That's because Ron Paul is the man.

[youngterrier]

End the fed by ron paul changed my outlook on things..it can change your's too

That's because Ron Paul is the man.

If he had the oratory skills of Obama he would be president and the country would be heading to recovery and social issues would be left up to the states

[ASUMountaineer]

That's because Ron Paul is the man.

If he had the oratory skills of Obama he would be president and the country would be heading to recovery and social issues would be left up to the states

I'm not sure how true that is, America has shown she can be stubborn and stupid. However, if he looked like Romney and spoke like Clinton...you're probably right. At least, one can HOPE.

[hank scorpio]

If he had the oratory skills of Obama he would be president and the country would be heading to recovery and social issues would be left up to the states

Why do I have the feeling that the if the Federal Government left more things up to the states, people would have the same arguement for smaller and smaller political subdivisions?

The feds shouldn't dictate to the state of MT.......
Helena shouldn't dictate to Yellowstone County........
Yellowstone County shouldn't dictate to the city of Billings........
Billings shouldn't dictate to the Gunn Estates Subdivision......
Gun Estates Subdivision shouldn't dictate to me(individual property owner)..........

[ASUMountaineer]

If he had the oratory skills of Obama he would be president and the country would be heading to recovery and social issues would be left up to the states

Why do I have the feeling that the if the Federal Government left more things up to the states, people would have the same arguement for smaller and smaller political subdivisions?

The feds shouldn't dictate to the state of MT.......
Helena shouldn't dictate to Yellowstone County........
Yellowstone County shouldn't dictate to the city of Billings........
Billings shouldn't dictate to the Gunn Estates Subdivision......
Gun Estates Subdivision shouldn't dictate to me(individual property owner)..........

Because the laws aren't written that way, like the Constitution is. The 10th Amendment is a great read. Government intervention hasn't proved to well in the second half of the 20th century to now...why do you think that's going to change?

[native]

If he had the oratory skills of Obama he would be president and the country would be heading to recovery and social issues would be left up to the states

I'm not sure how true that is, America has shown she can be stubborn and stupid. However, if he looked like Romney and spoke like Clinton...you're probably right. At least, one can HOPE.

[ngineer]

Long overdue! McCain-Feingold is riddled with Constitutional infirmities. It's about time that part of it went down.

Ivytalk's long-held view: unlimited campaign spending by individuals or businesses to advance policy positions is perfectly fine, provided that there's full and timely disclosure by candidate recipients so the electorate can see who may have "influence."

Theoretically, the opinion is correct. Practically it's a mess. I think Congress will have to step in and restrict the ability to spend as such upon vote of the shareholders along with the full disclosures..and none of that gobbletygook fast talk disclosure, but an actual trademark showing "Exxon" or whoever is behind the message. At the same time, reversing 120 years of precedent on a 5-4 vote is very bad policy.

[CID1990]

Term limits and involved/educated voters.

FIFY

I think if we had involved/educated voters then term limits would be unnecessary.

[kalm]

That's because Ron Paul is the man.

If he had the oratory skills of Obama he would be president and the country would be heading to recovery and social issues would be left up to the states

He has fine oratory skills. However there is no way in hell either of the corporate controlled parties are going to allow a candidate who might create meaningful change anywhere close to the presidency. And for the large corporations, it won't really matter which party is in power.

Expect more of the same, especially with this decision. Malleable candidates with less experience who are willing to "compromise" and toe the corporate line like Obama will be the norm.

Palin now has a serious shot in 2012.