Roe v Wade Anniversary

[JoltinJoe]

Let's see, if a religious person claims to have all the answers, you say "how can anyone claim to know all there is to know."

And if they don't have the answer, you say, "What a crock."

I don't have all the answers. If you have a question that deeply troubles, pray to God and ask him for discernment.

Do you really think god is a "he"? If so why?

Because he calls himself the "Father."

[D1B]

Do you really think god is a "he"? If so why?

Because he calls himself the "Father."

Who is everone's mother? Is god married?

[JoltinJoe]

Because he calls himself the "Father."

Who is everone's mother? Is god married?

God is married to his Church, according to St. Paul.

[Skjellyfetti]

Does God have a cock, according to Saint Paul?

[D1B]

Who is everone's mother? Is god married?

God is married to his Church, according to St. Paul.

St. Paul was smart.

[youngterrier]

Call me crazy but i dont believe life begins at conception. one of the definitions (of i think 7) of a living organism is the ability to retain homeostasis which is the ability to regulate ones internal environment...thats what my biology book says at least. I dont see how a collection of cells at conception have an internal environment let alone regulate it

[kalm]

Does a corporation's life begin at conception or when they are born? If a corporation aborts it's own fetus, should they be charged with murder?

[SeattleGriz]

Well, the assumption that some states would impose capital punishment for an abortion, or even call it murder, is assinine, but if that's the best argument you got, go with it.

There were laws against abortion which existed prior to Roe. Not even the most conservative states treated it as "murder." Jail sentences for a few years was the standard penalty -- for the abortionist.

My friend recently experienced a spontaneos abortion. Can she sue God or the catholic church as the "real" representitives of god on earth?

No, but she should have her genetics checked out, as 50% of spontaneous abortions are due to genetic errors. Seriously, if she keeps aborting, she might want to see a specialist.

[SeattleGriz]

Might as well throw some gas on this fire.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases ... 04862.html

Poll finds 56% of all Americans and 58% of those 18-29 years old say abortion 'morally wrong'
NEW HAVEN, Conn., Jan. 21 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- On the eve of the 37th anniversary of the Supreme Court's decision in Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion throughout the United States, a new survey shows a strong majority of Americans believe abortion to be "morally wrong."
"Millennials" (those 18-29) consider abortion to be "morally wrong" even more (58%) than Baby Boomers (those 45-64) (51%). Generation X (those 30-44) are similar to Millennials (60% see abortion as "morally wrong"). More than 6 in 10 of the Greatest Generation (those 65+) feel the same.

[mainejeff]

I say that all women and men who participate in deciding to have an abortion be charged with murder and executed. That should thin the Republican roles...........

[JoltinJoe]

Call me crazy but i dont believe life begins at conception. one of the definitions (of i think 7) of a living organism is the ability to retain homeostasis which is the ability to regulate ones internal environment...thats what my biology book says at least. I dont see how a collection of cells at conception have an internal environment let alone regulate it

All single-celled life, including a zygote, is internally self-sufficent. You are overlooking that scientific fact when you say "life" shares seven characteristics. All complex life forms share various forms of life, but even Sky's link says that a single-celled life is self-sufficient.

At conception, the zygote possesses the capacity for homeostasis; however, like other single-celled life, this process for regulating its internal environment simply functions by expelling waste through its membrane. As the cell divides, and the life becomes more complex, the process becomes more complex. Thus, by the second day, the zygote begins forming the placenta, which functions to provide nourishment as well as to absorb and protect the mother from waste.

[JoltinJoe]

Might as well throw some gas on this fire.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases ... 04862.html

Poll finds 56% of all Americans and 58% of those 18-29 years old say abortion 'morally wrong'
NEW HAVEN, Conn., Jan. 21 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- On the eve of the 37th anniversary of the Supreme Court's decision in Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion throughout the United States, a new survey shows a strong majority of Americans believe abortion to be "morally wrong."
"Millennials" (those 18-29) consider abortion to be "morally wrong" even more (58%) than Baby Boomers (those 45-64) (51%). Generation X (those 30-44) are similar to Millennials (60% see abortion as "morally wrong"). More than 6 in 10 of the Greatest Generation (those 65+) feel the same.

I think even as more Americans adopt a pro-life outlook, that outlook is being formed by having had some experience with abortion.

I know many women who have had an abortion, and most of them regret their decision. Those who will talk about it identify feeling burdened, troubled, or frightened by an unexpected pregnancy, and embracing abortion because it was being endorsed as a solution and a right, without moral consequences. Because they were challenged, they acted on what they were being told.

As you get older, however, you begin to see the challenges and adversity in life as the moments when your character is tested and formed.

Some of the best, most generous, and caring people I know have personal experience with an abortion. It seems to me that they are called to this caring for life due to their personal experience of believing that they missed a challenge in their lives.

[Pwns]

Call me crazy but i dont believe life begins at conception. one of the definitions (of i think 7) of a living organism is the ability to retain homeostasis which is the ability to regulate ones internal environment...thats what my biology book says at least. I dont see how a collection of cells at conception have an internal environment let alone regulate it

You have to be very careful when establishing criteria for what constitutes a life protected under the law. There are many illnesses and injuries that can make modes of homeostasis impossible. If you use that definition, then those people would forfeit their right to life.

[JayJ79]

What would be decent punishment for abortion?

.....being handcuffed to d1b for 72 hours, for a start.

Now now, our country has laws against cruel and unusual punishment.......

[D1B]

.....being handcuffed to d1b for 72 hours, for a start.

Now now, our country has laws against cruel and unusual punishment.......

Blow me Jay. You know it will be the best 3 days of their lives.

[D1B]

Might as well throw some gas on this fire.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases ... 04862.html

I think even as more Americans adopt a pro-life outlook, that outlook is being formed by having had some experience with abortion.

I know many women who have had an abortion, and most of them regret their decision. Those who will talk about it identify feeling burdened, troubled, or frightened by an unexpected pregnancy, and embracing abortion because it was being endorsed as a solution and a right, without moral consequences. Because they were challenged, they acted on what they were being told.

As you get older, however, you begin to see the challenges and adversity in life as the moments when your character is tested and formed.

Some of the best, most generous, and caring people I know have personal experience with an abortion. It seems to me that they are called to this caring for life due to their personal experience of believing that they missed a challenge in their lives.

Joe, put down your catholic-produced anti abortion pamphlete and quit lying you sack of shit.

No woman has ever talk to YOU about her abortion. FACT (you liar )

[D1B]

Might as well throw some gas on this fire.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases ... 04862.html

I think even as more Americans adopt a pro-life outlook, that outlook is being formed by having had some experience with abortion.

I know many women who have had an abortion, and most of them regret their decision. Those who will talk about it identify feeling burdened, troubled, or frightened by an unexpected pregnancy, and embracing abortion because it was being endorsed as a solution and a right, without moral consequences. Because they were challenged, they acted on what they were being told.

As you get older, however, you begin to see the challenges and adversity in life as the moments when your character is tested and formed.

Some of the best, most generous, and caring people I know have personal experience with an abortion. It seems to me that they are called to this caring for life due to their personal experience of believing that they missed a challenge in their lives.

They feel bad about it cuz you cocksuckers and your fucking dumb church have villified it and them. And you're using this to support your argument!? Shame on you scumbag catholic. SMFH at Joltin Joe, may he rot in hell for eternity for his sins.

[JoltinJoe]

I think even as more Americans adopt a pro-life outlook, that outlook is being formed by having had some experience with abortion.

I know many women who have had an abortion, and most of them regret their decision. Those who will talk about it identify feeling burdened, troubled, or frightened by an unexpected pregnancy, and embracing abortion because it was being endorsed as a solution and a right, without moral consequences. Because they were challenged, they acted on what they were being told.

As you get older, however, you begin to see the challenges and adversity in life as the moments when your character is tested and formed.

Some of the best, most generous, and caring people I know have personal experience with an abortion. It seems to me that they are called to this caring for life due to their personal experience of believing that they missed a challenge in their lives.

Joe, put down your catholic-produced anti abortion pamphlete and quit lying you sack of ****.

No woman has ever talk to YOU about her abortion. FACT (you liar )

Fact: the pro-life movement is full of women who have had abortions.

As for who I have spoken to about their abortion or near abortion experience, you might be surprised. For example, I have spoken to the plaintiffs in both the Roe v. Wade andDoe v. Bolton[/i] cases, both of whom are rabidly pro life now.

Not that he's a woman, but I've also spoken to Dr. Bernard Nathanson, who was once the leading abortionist in the country.

[SeattleGriz]

I think even as more Americans adopt a pro-life outlook, that outlook is being formed by having had some experience with abortion.

I know many women who have had an abortion, and most of them regret their decision. Those who will talk about it identify feeling burdened, troubled, or frightened by an unexpected pregnancy, and embracing abortion because it was being endorsed as a solution and a right, without moral consequences. Because they were challenged, they acted on what they were being told.

As you get older, however, you begin to see the challenges and adversity in life as the moments when your character is tested and formed.

Some of the best, most generous, and caring people I know have personal experience with an abortion. It seems to me that they are called to this caring for life due to their personal experience of believing that they missed a challenge in their lives.

They feel bad about it cuz you cocksuckers and your fucking dumb church have villified it and them. And you're using this to support your argument!? Shame on you scumbag catholic. SMFH at Joltin Joe, may he rot in hell for eternity for his sins.

Science has given much credibility to the "life at conception" belief. Granted, seeing an ultrasound of a fully formed baby at 13 weeks is not conception, but it most certainly makes one realize that it doesn't take a full pregnancy before the baby is fully a baby.

[D1B]

Joe, put down your catholic-produced anti abortion pamphlete and quit lying you sack of ****.

No woman has ever talk to YOU about her abortion. FACT (you liar )

Fact: the pro-life movement is full of women who have had abortions.

As for who I have spoken to about their abortion or near abortion experience, you might be surprised. For example, I have spoken to the plaintiffs in both the Roe v. Wade andDoe v. Bolton[/i] cases, both of whom are rabidly pro life now.

Not that he's a woman, but I've also spoken to Dr. Bernard Nathanson, who was once the leading abortionist in the country.

Great you've talked with 2 public figures, with agendas. No woman has ever talked to YOU about her abortion you fucking liar.

Women feel bad about abortion because fucks like you villify and harrass them. Shame on you and your ilk Joe. YOU will rot in hell for your association with evil.

[JoltinJoe]

Fact: the pro-life movement is full of women who have had abortions.

As for who I have spoken to about their abortion or near abortion experience, you might be surprised. For example, I have spoken to the plaintiffs in both the Roe v. Wade andDoe v. Bolton[/i] cases, both of whom are rabidly pro life now.

Not that he's a woman, but I've also spoken to Dr. Bernard Nathanson, who was once the leading abortionist in the country.

Great you've talked with 2 public figures, with agendas. No woman has ever talked to YOU about her abortion you **** liar.

Women feel bad about abortion because **** like you villify and harrass them. Shame on you and your ilk Joe. YOU will rot in hell for your association with evil.

I have spoken to more than 2 women. But believe whatever you want. No skin off my back. As I said, the pro-life movement is full of women who have had abortions. If you don't think they talk about their experiences, fine.

Why don't you respond to Dana about his point re: shifting attitudes due to ultrasound (and other emerging technology).

[D1B]

Great you've talked with 2 public figures, with agendas. No woman has ever talked to YOU about her abortion you **** liar.

Women feel bad about abortion because **** like you villify and harrass them. Shame on you and your ilk Joe. YOU will rot in hell for your association with evil.

I have spoken to more than 2 women. But believe whatever you want. No skin off my back. As I said, the pro-life movement is full of women who have had abortions. If you don't think they talk about their experiences, fine.

Why don't you respond to Dana about his point re: shifting attitudes due to ultrasound (and other emerging technology).

Joe, no woman has ever talked to you about her abortion. You are a liar.

You harrass and villify women.

[JoltinJoe]

I have spoken to more than 2 women. But believe whatever you want. No skin off my back. As I said, the pro-life movement is full of women who have had abortions. If you don't think they talk about their experiences, fine.

Why don't you respond to Dana about his point re: shifting attitudes due to ultrasound (and other emerging technology).

Joe, no woman has ever talked to you about her abortion. You are a liar.

You harrass and villify women.

Reduced again to desperate accusations?

[D1B]

Joe, no woman has ever talked to you about her abortion. You are a liar.

You harrass and villify women.

Reduced again to desperate accusations?

Whatever.....

[89Hen]

I don't see it as murder. Unwanted or unintended pregnacy is a malady. A treatable malady and women have the right to take care of themselves.

And there you have why you'll never get it.

Those that favor abortion and/or the right to choose are playing God.