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You really think that 65% of your fellow citizens in Maricopa County are stupid morons?
When it comes to Arpaio, YEP. I would venture a guess that Arpaio gets at LEAST 85% of the vote of the 55+ crowd.

They push the "Arpaio" button in the voting booth because he keeps them pesky Mexicans in check---granted it's thruogh police brutality and abuse and profiling, but hey....don't let little things like illegal activity slow you down, right?
Not letting illegal aliens get away with crimes just because they are Mexican is OK with me!

Profiling criminal behavior is OK with me! :thumb:

Firm but Constitutional (no frills, no bullshit) treatment of criminals is OK with me! :thumb:

What has Arpaio done that is illegal? Sorry, Eric Holder's opinion doesn't count. You'll have to provide a non-partisan source.

I am willing to be persuaded if you can make a factual case.
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native wrote: Not letting illegal aliens get away with crimes just because they are Mexican is OK with me!

Profiling criminal behavior is OK with me! :thumb:

Firm but Constitutional (no frills, no bullshit) treatment of criminals is OK with me! :thumb:

What has Arpaio done that is illegal? Sorry, Eric Holder's opinion doesn't count. You'll have to provide a non-partisan source.

I am willing to be persuaded if you can make a factual case.
I highly doubt that. Arpaio has had more "detainees" die in his custody than the rest of Arizona and California counties combined. Nothing wrong with that, right? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Arpaio's heavy-handedness has cost Maricopa County MILLIONS in defense costs and hush money. Nothing wrong with that, right? :roll: :roll:

Arpaio is under a grand jury investigation as we speak. A witch hunt though, right? :roll: :roll:

All I can say is this: I'm sure as FUCK glad you're not down here voting. :coffee: :coffee:


I feel so strongly about this, the devil himself could run against Arpaio and I'd vote for the devil. :twocents: :twocents: :twocents:
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Re: Arpaio Strongest GOP Candidate for AZ Governor

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native wrote: Not letting illegal aliens get away with crimes just because they are Mexican is OK with me!

Profiling criminal behavior is OK with me! :thumb:

Firm but Constitutional (no frills, no bullshit) treatment of criminals is OK with me! :thumb:

What has Arpaio done that is illegal? Sorry, Eric Holder's opinion doesn't count. You'll have to provide a non-partisan source.

I am willing to be persuaded if you can make a factual case.
I highly doubt that. Arpaio has had more "detainees" die in his custody than the rest of Arizona and California counties combined. Nothing wrong with that, right? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Arpaio's heavy-handedness has cost Maricopa County MILLIONS in defense costs and hush money. Nothing wrong with that, right? :roll: :roll:

Arpaio is under a grand jury investigation as we speak. A witch hunt though, right? :roll: :roll:

All I can say is this: I'm sure as FUCK glad you're not down here voting. :coffee: :coffee:


I feel so strongly about this, the devil himself could run against Arpaio and I'd vote for the devil. :twocents: :twocents: :twocents:
Yeah, I feel the vibes, but still no sources.

You are someone whose opinion and judgment I trust, so I will still have to take what I learn about Sheriff Joe with a grain of salt and try to look behind the front page.

In any case, good luck and GBU!
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AZGrizFan wrote:I highly doubt that. Arpaio has had more "detainees" die in his custody than the rest of Arizona and California counties combined. Nothing wrong with that, right? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Arpaio's heavy-handedness has cost Maricopa County MILLIONS in defense costs and hush money. Nothing wrong with that, right? :roll: :roll:

Arpaio is under a grand jury investigation as we speak. A witch hunt though, right? :roll: :roll:

All I can say is this: I'm sure as FUCK glad you're not down here voting. :coffee: :coffee:


I feel so strongly about this, the devil himself could run against Arpaio and I'd vote for the devil. :twocents: :twocents: :twocents:
Yeah, I feel the vibes, but still no sources.

You are someone whose opinion and judgment I trust, so I will still have to take what I learn about Sheriff Joe with a grain of salt and try to look behind the front page.

In any case, good luck and GBU!
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From 2004 through November 2007, Arpaio was the target of 2,150 lawsuits in U.S. District Court and hundreds more in Maricopa County courts, with more than $50 million in claims being filed,[39] 50 times as many prison-conditions lawsuits as the New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston jail systems combined.[40] Allegations of cruel treatment of inmates as well as living conditions have been cited by Amnesty International in a report issued on the treatment of inmates in Maricopa County facilities.[3]
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Yeah, I feel the vibes, but still no sources.

You are someone whose opinion and judgment I trust, so I will still have to take what I learn about Sheriff Joe with a grain of salt and try to look behind the front page.

In any case, good luck and GBU!
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From 2004 through November 2007, Arpaio was the target of 2,150 lawsuits in U.S. District Court and hundreds more in Maricopa County courts, with more than $50 million in claims being filed,[39] 50 times as many prison-conditions lawsuits as the New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston jail systems combined.[40] Allegations of cruel treatment of inmates as well as living conditions have been cited by Amnesty International in a report issued on the treatment of inmates in Maricopa County facilities.[3]
I do not deny the possibility that Sheriff Joe is guilty as you accuse him, but I remain unimpressed by prison conditions lawsuits by bleeding heart jackasses.

I care about things like equal rights, professional behavior by law enforcement officials, safety (NOT comfort) in detention facilities, and equal protection under the law for US citizens. There are more serious accusations I would like to know more about. Have Maricopa deputies beaten prisoners to death? Are illegal aliens treated differently than other detainees? Has there been corruption? Have serious crimes gone un-investigated in favor of frivolous investigations? I would like to know the facts.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
From wikipedia:
I do not deny the possibility that Sheriff Joe is guilty as you accuse him, but I remain unimpressed by prison conditions lawsuits by bleeding heart jackasses.

There are more serious accusations I would like to know more about. Have Maricopa deputies beaten prisoners to death? Are illegal aliens treated differently than other detainees?Has money been stolen? Have serious crimes gone un-investigated? I would like to know the facts.

I do care about things like equal rights and equal protection under the law for US citizens. Are the illegal alien criminals and suspects treated differently than the others? I expect them to be treated the same.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: apparently all the bleeding heart liberals live in Maricopa County? Did you not see the part that said
50 times as many prison-conditions lawsuits as the New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston jail systems combined
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Deny all you want, but he's an embarrassment to anybody in this county with a brainstem. :coffee:
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Arrested Newspaper reporters for publishing details he didn't want out...
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I do not deny the possibility that Sheriff Joe is guilty as you accuse him, but I remain unimpressed by prison conditions lawsuits by bleeding heart jackasses.

There are more serious accusations I would like to know more about. Have Maricopa deputies beaten prisoners to death? Are illegal aliens treated differently than other detainees?Has money been stolen? Have serious crimes gone un-investigated? I would like to know the facts.

I do care about things like equal rights and equal protection under the law for US citizens. Are the illegal alien criminals and suspects treated differently than the others? I expect them to be treated the same.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: apparently all the bleeding heart liberals live in Maricopa County? Did you not see the part that said
50 times as many prison-conditions lawsuits as the New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston jail systems combined
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Deny all you want, but he's an embarrassment to anybody in this county with a brainstem. :coffee:
The embarrassment and outrage is that taxpayers are forced to cave in to ridiculous demands caused by frivolous prison conditions lawsuits. If the lawsuits are for criminal behavior by deputies, or lack of prison safety, that's one thing. BUT if the lawsuits are for insufficient "recreation time," as alleged by Amnesty International, or for making the prisoners wear pink underwear, work in chain gangs, or for feeding the prisoners twice per day instead of three times, that's bullshit.
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dbackjon wrote:Arrested Newspaper reporters for publishing details he didn't want out...
That is a serious and important allegation. Source? Details? Results?
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Here is a link to the Amnesty allegations. Some are serious, some are frivolous. None are verifed.

http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset ... 1997en.pdf
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dbackjon wrote:Arrested Newspaper reporters for publishing details he didn't want out...
That is a serious and important allegation. Source? Details? Results?
This is definitely true. He had the Publishers of the New Times here in Phoenix arrested because they printed his home address in their paper. :coffee: :coffee: :ohno: :ohno:

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepubli ... tml?&wired

Read it and weap, Native. He's a scumbag, pure and simple. Jon and I don't agree on much. THIS, we agree on.
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That is a serious and important allegation. Source? Details? Results?
This is definitely true. He had the Publishers of the New Times here in Phoenix arrested because they printed his home address in their paper. :coffee: :coffee: :ohno: :ohno:

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepubli ... tml?&wired

Read it and weap, Native. He's a scumbag, pure and simple. Jon and I don't agree on much. THIS, we agree on.
I read it and shed a tear, AZGF. :kisswink:
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native wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
This is definitely true. He had the Publishers of the New Times here in Phoenix arrested because they printed his home address in their paper. :coffee: :coffee: :ohno: :ohno:

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepubli ... tml?&wired

Read it and weap, Native. He's a scumbag, pure and simple. Jon and I don't agree on much. THIS, we agree on.
I read it and shed a tear, AZGF. :kisswink:
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I read it and shed a tear, AZGF. :kisswink:
Hey, you want him, we'll send him to YOUR county. :nod: :nod: :nod:
If the worst allegations against Sheriff Joe are true, part of the lesson learned is that power corrupts.

I wish someone like Sheriff Joe - maybe not completely like him (nothing petty, or truly un-Constitutional or criminal) - WOULD get elected sheriff of San Diego County, and I would be delighted for the majority of Sheriff Joe's get-tough policies to be emulated throughout the country.
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Hey, you want him, we'll send him to YOUR county. :nod: :nod: :nod:
If the worst allegations against Sheriff Joe are true, part of the lesson learned is that power corrupts.

I wish someone like Sheriff Joe - maybe not completely like him (nothing truly un-Constitutional or criminal) - WOULD get elected sheriff of San Diego County, and I would be delighted for the majority of Sheriff Joe's get-tough policies to be emulated throughout the country.
Arpaio is a lot like Clinton. If he had been smart enough to JUST do the "tough policies" and not go all power hungry he'd go down as a great sherriff and probably COULD get elected Governor. Just like if Clinton had been able to keep his dick in his pants and out of Monica's mouth he'd have gone down as a pretty good president.
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EST EASY AZGF and DBJ! Arpaio is not running!

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AZGF and DBJ can rest easy. Apparently, Sheriff Joe will not be running for governor.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... a_governor
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Native would like this guy as well....

Gerald Hege (born 1948 in Davidson County, NC) was the controversial sheriff of Davidson County, North Carolina. A veteran of the Vietnam War, he became famous for his highly eccentric behavior, his internationally-known television show, and eventually for the charges of corruption that led to his resignation. He is a Republican, and former head of the Davidson County Republican Party.

Gerald Hege was elected sheriff in 1994 by a margin of 261 votes. One of his better known campaign slogans was "When I am elected Sheriff, I will wear a uniform every day and there will be no deals for anybody." After his election, all Davidson County sheriff's cars were fitted with a front license plate proclaiming "NO DEALS" in large block letters.

Hege took Buford Pusser and Joe Arpaio as role models. Hege ordered all deputies to dress in paramilitary fatigues and combat boots; Hege dressed this way himself, despite the tradition of business attire for Davidson County sheriffs. Hege reinstuted the use of chain gang prisoner labor. He also removed the television sets and books (except for the Bible) from the county jail. (In a sign of things to come, Hege made sure the televisions were removed in full view of the local news media.) The jail was repainted in pink with weeping blue teddy bears. Prisoners also wore color coordinated jumpsuits to identify their offense: Blue for misdemeanors, green for sex offenders, and orange for felons. The jumpsuits were striped in the old fashioned manner as opposed to the modern solid color. Hege carried a Heckler & Koch MP5 instead of a service revolver. The sheriff also kept the robes of eight former Ku Klux Klan members whom he claimed he had convinced to retire. Hege also claimed that Mafia hitmen had a bounty on his head, as he interrupted the flow of drugs through Davidson County

After 9/11, a Christmas card sent out by the Sheriff featured him in the desert wearing a black jumpsuit, with a bloody sword and the severed head of Osama bin Laden with the title "Happy Ramadan."

His personal patrol vehicle was a 1995 Chevrolet Impala with a Chevrolet Corvette engine and nitrous oxide tanks. His department lost its insurance coverage when he boasted that he had driven the vehicle at speeds of up to 140 mph. The car was referred to as "The Spider Car" because of a custom paint job featuring a Black Widow Spider and the letters "DDT." The windows of this and all other patrol cars of the force were tinted dark black.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Hege
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As years passed, charges of nepotism, financial irregularities, and mismanagement began to surface. On September 15th, 2003, Hege was charged with 15 felonies and suspended from office. The charges were five counts of embezzlement by a public officer, five counts of obtaining property by false pretenses, two counts of obstruction of justice, one count of endeavoring to intercept oral communication, one count of aiding and abetting to endeavor to intercept oral communication and one count of aiding and abetting to obtain property by false pretenses.

Despite Hege's "No Deals" slogan, he eventually accepted a plea agreement.
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http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/ ... rpaio.html
A federal judge has imposed sanctions on the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office for destroying evidence in a racial-profiling case, and Sheriff Joe Arpaio must answer questions regarding an immigration file he kept.

U.S. District Court Judge G. Murray Snow's order, released Friday, also calls on the Sheriff's Office to try to recover e-mails that were deleted and to swear under oath to steps it took to gather the records.
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Appaholic wrote:Native would like this guy as well....

Gerald Hege (born 1948 in Davidson County, NC) was the controversial sheriff of Davidson County, North Carolina. A veteran of the Vietnam War, he became famous for his highly eccentric behavior, his internationally-known television show, and eventually for the charges of corruption that led to his resignation. He is a Republican, and former head of the Davidson County Republican Party.

Gerald Hege was elected sheriff in 1994 by a margin of 261 votes. One of his better known campaign slogans was "When I am elected Sheriff, I will wear a uniform every day and there will be no deals for anybody." After his election, all Davidson County sheriff's cars were fitted with a front license plate proclaiming "NO DEALS" in large block letters.

Hege took Buford Pusser and Joe Arpaio as role models. Hege ordered all deputies to dress in paramilitary fatigues and combat boots; Hege dressed this way himself, despite the tradition of business attire for Davidson County sheriffs. Hege reinstuted the use of chain gang prisoner labor. He also removed the television sets and books (except for the Bible) from the county jail. (In a sign of things to come, Hege made sure the televisions were removed in full view of the local news media.) The jail was repainted in pink with weeping blue teddy bears. Prisoners also wore color coordinated jumpsuits to identify their offense: Blue for misdemeanors, green for sex offenders, and orange for felons. The jumpsuits were striped in the old fashioned manner as opposed to the modern solid color. Hege carried a Heckler & Koch MP5 instead of a service revolver. The sheriff also kept the robes of eight former Ku Klux Klan members whom he claimed he had convinced to retire. Hege also claimed that Mafia hitmen had a bounty on his head, as he interrupted the flow of drugs through Davidson County

After 9/11, a Christmas card sent out by the Sheriff featured him in the desert wearing a black jumpsuit, with a bloody sword and the severed head of Osama bin Laden with the title "Happy Ramadan."

His personal patrol vehicle was a 1995 Chevrolet Impala with a Chevrolet Corvette engine and nitrous oxide tanks. His department lost its insurance coverage when he boasted that he had driven the vehicle at speeds of up to 140 mph. The car was referred to as "The Spider Car" because of a custom paint job featuring a Black Widow Spider and the letters "DDT." The windows of this and all other patrol cars of the force were tinted dark black.


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As years passed, charges of nepotism, financial irregularities, and mismanagement began to surface. On September 15th, 2003, Hege was charged with 15 felonies and suspended from office. The charges were five counts of embezzlement by a public officer, five counts of obtaining property by false pretenses, two counts of obstruction of justice, one count of endeavoring to intercept oral communication, one count of aiding and abetting to endeavor to intercept oral communication and one count of aiding and abetting to obtain property by false pretenses.

Despite Hege's "No Deals" slogan, he eventually accepted a plea agreement.
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AZGrizFan wrote:He's a psychotic, power-hungry *******. Google his name and you'll find hundreds of websites, stories and docuemntation regarding the corruption and abuse of power he's condoned, participated in and ordered in his 16 years in office.

His entire HOUSE was pink...I know, because I lived about 2 blocks from him for 5 years.

He's NOT the kind of guy you want dumping your garbage, let alone running the sherriff's dept for a major county like Maricopa.

Honestly, if he gets elected governor, I'm going to immediately start looking for some other state to move to.
Lawsuit abuse by the left does not make a case. Do you have more details?

If Sheriff Joe is so bad, why does he consistently get re-elected by such large margins? (Your previous "answer" does not qualify, dbj.)
same reason corrupt Congressman and Senators get reelected... voters are stupid.
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I would like to add that I spent 24 hours in Sheriff Joe's infamous tent city for a DUI back in 1990.

I WAS INNOCENT!!!
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native wrote:AZGF and DBJ can rest easy. Apparently, Sheriff Joe will not be running for governor.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... a_governor
Now if we could get him to not run for sheriff we'd be happy.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
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That is a serious and important allegation. Source? Details? Results?
This is definitely true. He had the Publishers of the New Times here in Phoenix arrested because they printed his home address in their paper. :coffee: :coffee: :ohno: :ohno:

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepubli ... tml?&wired

Read it and weap, Native. He's a scumbag, pure and simple. Jon and I don't agree on much. THIS, we agree on.
Do your homework, AZKalm.

Read Judge Snow's sanction ruling...pay attention to page 9.
http://vvoice.vo.llnwd.net/e14/4432209.0.pdf

The judge found no communication had been made to the parties accused of failing to retain/turnover the documentation, ergo their errors were at most negligence. Reading on further, he has suspended impostion of any sanction(s) pending redeposition of the respondent witnesses and review of any potential harm which may have resulted from the destruction of any records.

It's a pile of hooey, hyped by the media (and sheeple) who hate Sheriff Arpaio.

I'm not saying Arpaio's a saint: He isn't. But his worst offense is being an egomaniac, not the "loose cannon prick" jacket his (lawless) detractors have been attempting to hang on him.
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Re: Arpaio Strongest GOP Candidate for AZ Governor

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Appaholic wrote:Native would like this guy as well....

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Hege
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As years passed, charges of nepotism, financial irregularities, and mismanagement began to surface. On September 15th, 2003, Hege was charged with 15 felonies and suspended from office. The charges were five counts of embezzlement by a public officer, five counts of obtaining property by false pretenses, two counts of obstruction of justice, one count of endeavoring to intercept oral communication, one count of aiding and abetting to endeavor to intercept oral communication and one count of aiding and abetting to obtain property by false pretenses.

Despite Hege's "No Deals" slogan, he eventually accepted a plea agreement.
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