Pot Legalization to CA ballot in November?

[Wedgebuster]

12. And the earth gave forth vegetation, seed yielding herbs according to its kind, and trees producing fruit, in which its seed is found, according to its kind, and God saw that it was good.

What is it about this, that the self richeous assholes do not understand?

[D1B]

Soooo.......when do we get to have a CS.com gathering at DD's house?

Dealer's already having a slumber party with Citdog, OL FU, Hansel and Bandl on the 31st. They will be baking cookies and playing truth or dare.

[Wedgebuster]

Soooo.......when do we get to have a CS.com gathering at DD's house?

Dealer's already having a slumber party with Citdog, OL FU, Hansel and Bandl on the 31st. They will be baking cookies and playing truth or dare.

Not to mention the nitrous, oops, did I mention that??

[travelinman67]

...my contention is that those people you are talking about are just inherent losers. (sorry if that offends you) Pot didn't cause them to fail, their own lack of drive did that. If it weren't pot, it would have been some other excuse to be a fuck-up. Sounds like you need to worry less about the right or wrong of legalizing pot, and work harder on your criteria for choosing your friends.

And...for those well educated member of CS.Com who smoke pot and never fulfill their potential...yes, there are a few...

...are they inherent losers also?

I still consider them "friends".

...or should I just refine my selection of "friends" and ignore people who don't fulfill their professional potential?

Regardless of your response, my point remains...

...but for their addiction to marijuana, their professional advancement most likely would have taken a different path.

[D1B]

...my contention is that those people you are talking about are just inherent losers. (sorry if that offends you) Pot didn't cause them to fail, their own lack of drive did that. If it weren't pot, it would have been some other excuse to be a fuck-up. Sounds like you need to worry less about the right or wrong of legalizing pot, and work harder on your criteria for choosing your friends.

And...for those well educated member of CS.Com who smoke pot and never fulfill their potential...yes, there are a few...

...are they inherent losers also?

I still consider them "friends".

...or should I just refine my selection of "friends" and ignore people who don't fulfill their professional potential?

Regardless of your response, my point remains...

...but for their addiction to marijuana, their professional advancement most likely would have taken a different path.

Tman, you have it backwards, as usual. I know countless people who were drinking way too much, then started smoking weed and their drinking plummeted and careers skyrocketed.

Sorry Bud, you don't know what the fuck you're talking bout. You aint the world.

[travelinman67]

And...for those well educated member of CS.Com who smoke pot and never fulfill their potential...yes, there are a few...

...are they inherent losers also?

I still consider them "friends".

...or should I just refine my selection of "friends" and ignore people who don't fulfill their professional potential?

Regardless of your response, my point remains...

...but for their addiction to marijuana, their professional advancement most likely would have taken a different path.

Tman, you have it backwards, as usual. I know countless people who were drinking way too much, then started smoking weed and their drinking plummeted and careers skyrocketed.

That's the most ignorant statement you've ever made.

The psychoactive, physiological and psychological short and long-term damage caused by marijuana are well researched and documented. Suggesting that marijuana use inhibits alcohol addiction and promotes health, wellness, motivation, and professional success is beyond comprehension.

You need to get a grip on reality if you REALLY believe that hooey.

[D1B]

Tman, you have it backwards, as usual. I know countless people who were drinking way too much, then started smoking weed and their drinking plummeted and careers skyrocketed.

That's the most ignorant statement you've ever made.

The psychoactive, physiological and psychological short and long-term damage caused by marijuana are well researched and documented. Suggesting that marijuana use inhibits alcohol addiction and promotes health, wellness, motivation, and professional success is beyond comprehension.

You need to get a grip on reality if you REALLY believe that hooey.

All the people I know with healthy lifestyles - skiiers, runners, hikers, ect. smoke weed recreationally. Alcohol destroys your body.

[Grizalltheway]

That's the most ignorant statement you've ever made.

The psychoactive, physiological and psychological short and long-term damage caused by marijuana are well researched and documented. Suggesting that marijuana use inhibits alcohol addiction and promotes health, wellness, motivation, and professional success is beyond comprehension.

You need to get a grip on reality if you REALLY believe that hooey.

All the people I know with healthy lifestyles - skiiers, runners, hikers, ect. smoke weed recreationally. Alcohol destroys your body.

Tman doesn't seem to understand that you can in fact control your weed intake, and that it really isn't that terrible for you in moderation. Are you going to get anywhere in life if you smoke pot all day, every day? Of course not, but I, and most of the people I know who smoke, don't do anything like that.

[D1B]

All the people I know with healthy lifestyles - skiiers, runners, hikers, ect. smoke weed recreationally. Alcohol destroys your body.

Tman doesn't seem to understand that you can in fact control your weed intake, and that it really isn't that terrible for you in moderation. Are you going to get anywhere in life if you smoke pot all day, every day? Of course not, but I, and most of the people I know who smoke, don't do anything like that.

If hippies were primarily known for drinking wine, he'd be railing against the evils of merlot and chardonnay.

[houndawg]

Legalize it all. The government has no business regulating the chemicals people put inside themselves. We don't regulate any other risky behaviors that don't affect the neighbors. Personally, I could use the entertainment. Anyone ever seen a smackhead on the nod? Or some stupid kid on acid? A crackwhore fvcking herself with a fork to entertain her dealer in return for a rock? I'm telling you, that sh!t is fvcking hilarious; what people will do to fry their fvcking brains out, and how they act when they are on the stuff.

Especially acid. I love that sh!t. I've seen prom queens strip bare fvcking naked in the middle of the road with their Baptist parents sobbing in the police station lobby afterwards.

Human wreckage. I get off on it. It's better than WWF and Springer all rolled into one.

That being said, law enforcement would be just as busy and spend just as much money on expensive detection for impairment and enforcement of DWI laws as we currently do in the war on drugs. My beliefs on this subject are strictly libertarian. I could give a sh!t about the money. The government isn't going to lower our taxes or quickly move to balance the budget if we suddenly end the war on drugs.

Haven't seen those, but I've been to a Baptist church, so I think I understand.

[houndawg]

Just a disinterested observer passing through, but from what I've heard from the nays, their argument sounds an awful lot to me like Them's I don't like are farrit, so I'm aginnit.

That's ol' T'man in a nutshell. He still hasn't forgiven those over-sexed boomer chicks for ignoring a pimply-faced fat kid when the rest of us were getting all that free poon back in the day. You gotta feel sorry for a guy that grew up 2 hours from Mustang Ranch and still couldn't lose his virginity until he was 37 years old.

[D1B]

Just a disinterested observer passing through, but from what I've heard from the nays, their argument sounds an awful lot to me like Them's I don't like are farrit, so I'm aginnit.

That's ol' T'man in a nutshell. He still hasn't forgiven those over-sexed boomer chicks for ignoring a pimply-faced fat kid when the rest of us were getting all that free poon back in the day. You gotta feel sorry for a guy that grew up 2 hours from Mustang Ranch and still couldn't lose his virginity until he was 37 years old.

[death dealer]

That's the most ignorant statement you've ever made.

The psychoactive, physiological and psychological short and long-term damage caused by marijuana are well researched and documented. Suggesting that marijuana use inhibits alcohol addiction and promotes health, wellness, motivation, and professional success is beyond comprehension.

You need to get a grip on reality if you REALLY believe that hooey.

All the people I know with healthy lifestyles - skiiers, runners, hikers, ect. smoke weed recreationally. Alcohol destroys your body.

You nailed it right there. Every one of my cycling buddies, all the serious kayakers, and most of the tri folks I know partake recreationally. They are all hardcore fitness nuts, but will blaze one in a heartbeat when the opportunity arises. But they all drink like fish when they can too!

But, seriously, that's the point, we all do it in moderation, and infrequently. I have three young kids, and a wife that doesn't smoke weed (she just doesn't like it and I married her anyway. Love will make you do some fucked up shit. ), so I can't burn one down whenever I please. It just isn't my life right now. But don't think that when I retire, I'm not gonna get me a sailboat, sail off in whicheve direction the winds blowing, grow my beard down to my knees, and get stoned as a bejeezus every damn day.

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[Appaholic]

...my contention is that those people you are talking about are just inherent losers. (sorry if that offends you) Pot didn't cause them to fail, their own lack of drive did that. If it weren't pot, it would have been some other excuse to be a fuck-up. Sounds like you need to worry less about the right or wrong of legalizing pot, and work harder on your criteria for choosing your friends.

And...for those well educated member of CS.Com who post all day while at work and never fulfill their potential...yes, there are a few...

...are they inherent losers also?

I still consider them "friends".

...or should I just refine my selection of "friends" and ignore people who don't fulfill their professional potential?

Regardless of your response, my point remains...

...but for their addiction to posting on message boards, their professional advancement most likely would have taken a different path.

Agree...

[death dealer]

...my contention is that those people you are talking about are just inherent losers. (sorry if that offends you) Pot didn't cause them to fail, their own lack of drive did that. If it weren't pot, it would have been some other excuse to be a fuck-up. Sounds like you need to worry less about the right or wrong of legalizing pot, and work harder on your criteria for choosing your friends.

And...for those well educated member of CS.Com who smoke pot and never fulfill their potential...yes, there are a few...

...are they inherent losers also?

I still consider them "friends".

...or should I just refine my selection of "friends" and ignore people who don't fulfill their professional potential?

Regardless of your response, my point remains...

...but for their addiction to marijuana, their professional advancement most likely would have taken a different path.

Nice attempt to distract everyone with a strawman. Doesn't change the truth of my statement, only validates it. There are lots of reasons people don't achieve success. A guy that gives up the rat race to wait tables and smoke weed all day might be hailed as a post-modern hero by some. If he's happy, then what do you care? My point still stands, the vast majority of adult users lead normal productive lives, without the extreme damage that you use as your justification for not legalizing pot.

[Appaholic]

And...for those well educated member of CS.Com who smoke pot and never fulfill their potential...yes, there are a few...

...are they inherent losers also?

I still consider them "friends".

...or should I just refine my selection of "friends" and ignore people who don't fulfill their professional potential?

Regardless of your response, my point remains...

...but for their addiction to marijuana, their professional advancement most likely would have taken a different path.

Nice attempt to distract everyone with a strawman. Doesn't change the truth of my statement, only validates it. There are lots of reasons people don't achieve success. A guy that gives up the rat race to wait tables and smoke weed all day might be hailed as a post-modern hero by some. If he's happy, then what do you care? My point still stands, the vast majority of adult users lead normal productive lives, without the extreme damage that you use as your justification for not legalizing pot.

As usual, TMan limps off to lick his wounds once he has been pummeled with rational logic....

[travelinman67]

Nice attempt to distract everyone with a strawman. Doesn't change the truth of my statement, only validates it. There are lots of reasons people don't achieve success. A guy that gives up the rat race to wait tables and smoke weed all day might be hailed as a post-modern hero by some. If he's happy, then what do you care? My point still stands, the vast majority of adult users lead normal productive lives, without the extreme damage that you use as your justification for not legalizing pot.

As usual, TMan limps off to lick his wounds once he has been pummeled with rational logic....

Go hump your sister, BanjoBoy.

I dropped this as nothing's being accomplished.

Pot will not be legalized in CA. This thread is mental masturbation for the stoners who seek validation of a nasty drug addiction.

DD's last point is invalid, as I can counter that I know many "functioning alcoholics" that hold positions of management and "lead normal productive lives" too. Like marijuana, however, that doesn't mitigate the damage resulting from it's addictive properties.

Now, go take care of Appettaholic while she's still bleeding.

[Appaholic]

As usual, TMan limps off to lick his wounds once he has been pummeled with rational logic....

Go hump your sister, BanjoBoy.

I dropped this as nothing's being accomplished.

Pot will not be legalized in CA. This thread is mental masturbation for the stoners who seek validation of a nasty drug addiction.

DD's last point is invalid, as I can counter that I know many "functioning alcoholics" that hold positions of management and "lead normal productive lives" too. Like marijuana, however, that doesn't mitigate the damage resulting from it's addictive properties.

Now, go take care of Appettaholic while she's still bleeding.

So should we re-instate prohibition?

[travelinman67]

Go hump your sister, BanjoBoy.

I dropped this as nothing's being accomplished.

Pot will not be legalized in CA. This thread is mental masturbation for the stoners who seek validation of a nasty drug addiction.

DD's last point is invalid, as I can counter that I know many "functioning alcoholics" that hold positions of management and "lead normal productive lives" too. Like marijuana, however, that doesn't mitigate the damage resulting from it's addictive properties.

Now, go take care of Appettaholic while she's still bleeding.

So should we re-instate prohibition?

F***ing fine with me, Red-Dick.

Even during prohibition people were allowed to make wine for personal consumption. I'm all set.

"APPA!!! Get back in here! You didn't orly pleasure me yet!!!

[Appaholic]

So should we re-instate prohibition?

F***ing fine with me, Red-Dick.

Even during prohibition people were allowed to make wine for personal consumption. I'm all set.

Ahh...namecalling...the last vestige of the spanked & humiliated....

Seriously though...how is brewing your own wine during prohibition any different than growing your own weed currently? If they are both destructive, why not ban both? & how is it not an infringement upon one's liberty to criminalize that which hurts no one but yourself in the end....

[Grizalltheway]

F***ing fine with me, Red-Dick.

Even during prohibition people were allowed to make wine for personal consumption. I'm all set.

Ahh...namecalling...the last vestige of the spanked & humiliated....

Seriously though...how is brewing your own wine during prohibition any different than growing your own weed currently? If they are both destructive, why not ban both? & how is it not an infringement upon one's liberty to criminalize that which hurts no one but yourself in the end....

Because the stock Tman owns in big pharma will plunge if they legalize it.

[Appaholic]

Ahh...namecalling...the last vestige of the spanked & humiliated....

Seriously though...how is brewing your own wine during prohibition any different than growing your own weed currently? If they are both destructive, why not ban both? & how is it not an infringement upon one's liberty to criminalize that which hurts no one but yourself in the end....

Because the stock Tman owns in big pharma will plunge if they legalize it.

Just like the value of the "soon-to-be-lakefront property" on the backwater created by Auburn Dam....

[houndawg]

And...for those well educated member of CS.Com who smoke pot and never fulfill their potential...yes, there are a few...

...are they inherent losers also?

I still consider them "friends".

...or should I just refine my selection of "friends" and ignore people who don't fulfill their professional potential?

Regardless of your response, my point remains...

...but for their addiction to marijuana, their professional advancement most likely would have taken a different path.

Nice attempt to distract everyone with a strawman. Doesn't change the truth of my statement, only validates it. There are lots of reasons people don't achieve success. A guy that gives up the rat race to wait tables and smoke weed all day might be hailed as a post-modern hero by some. If he's happy, then what do you care? My point still stands, the vast majority of adult users lead normal productive lives, without the extreme damage that you use as your justification for not legalizing pot.

For god's sake dd, don't ask him stuff like that if you don't want to endure whole chapters of Atlas Shrugged.