Obama paving the way for Palin in 2012 (link)

[catamount man]

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[houndawg]

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Not a chance, unfortunately. A Palin candidacy would be the Democrats wet dream.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

She couldnt do any worse than this fu*king idiot.

[houndawg]

She couldnt do any worse than this fu*king idiot.

Maybe not, but the Democrats would come all over themselves if she were the candidate.

[AZGrizFan]

She couldnt do any worse than this fu*king idiot.

Maybe not, but the Democrats would come all over themselves if she were the candidate.

I agree with both of you.

[Baldy]

She couldnt do any worse than this fu*king idiot.

Maybe not, but the Democrats would come all over themselves if she were the candidate.

Probably the only way the Donks would have a chance.

[SuperHornet]

If the current administration does not improve, I would think that the GOP could win with ANYBODY if the Donkey nominee is Obama. Palin would be a lock in that case. Unfortunately for Palin, I foresee Obama becoming the first sitting President in AGES to lose his own party's nomination, and if that happens, it'll be Hillary. If Hillary's the Democratic nominee, I'm afraid that NOBODY on the GOP side can take the White House, even Sarah. NOW will back Hillary over Sarah in a heartbeat, and that will be enough to swing the election.

[Grizalltheway]

Maybe not, but the Democrats would come all over themselves if she were the candidate.

Probably the only way the Donks would have a chance.

I love it, you and Z already calling 2012 for the conks! Don't you guys ever get sick of being wrong?

[native]

If the current administration does not improve, I would think that the GOP could win with ANYBODY if the Donkey nominee is Obama. Palin would be a lock in that case. Unfortunately for Palin, I foresee Obama becoming the first sitting President in AGES to lose his own party's nomination, and if that happens, it'll be Hillary. If Hillary's the Democratic nominee, I'm afraid that NOBODY on the GOP side can take the White House, even Sarah. NOW will back Hillary over Sarah in a heartbeat, and that will be enough to swing the election.

Can anyone remember the 1968 Democratic Convention?!?? Unlike the circular firing squad erupting in the Democratic party, the social conks among Republicans are not stupid enough to fight over a few libertarian seats, because they know that they will prosper and enjoy more liberty with smaller government.

IMO, the political landscape is changing so rapidly and drastically that the 2012 Presidential election is not a done deal for anyone! People are afraid and angry, in that order, and the volatility will not settle out unless and until the economy improves and unemployment goes down - IF AND ONLY IF domestic security is not upset by another significant terror event. This will only happen when the President tacks to the center right and makes peace with Republicans.

Obama could achieve this and get re-elected if he would tack against his instincts to the center right, but he is a true believer and all the people he trusts are fellow left wing wackos, so it may have to wait until 2013.

[Grizalltheway]

If the current administration does not improve, I would think that the GOP could win with ANYBODY if the Donkey nominee is Obama. Palin would be a lock in that case. Unfortunately for Palin, I foresee Obama becoming the first sitting President in AGES to lose his own party's nomination, and if that happens, it'll be Hillary. If Hillary's the Democratic nominee, I'm afraid that NOBODY on the GOP side can take the White House, even Sarah. NOW will back Hillary over Sarah in a heartbeat, and that will be enough to swing the election.

Can anyone remember the 1968 Democratic Convention?!?? Unlike the circular firing squad erupting in the Democratic party, the social conks among Republicans are not stupid enough to fight over a few libertarian seats, because they know that they will prosper and enjoy more liberty with smaller government.

IMO, the political landscape is changing so rapidly and drastically that the 2012 Presidential election is not a done deal for anyone! People are afraid and angry, in that order, and the volatility will not settle out unless and until the economy improves and unemployment goes down - IF AND ONLY IF domestic security is not upset by another significant terror event. This will only happen when the President tacks to the center right and makes peace with Republicans.

Obama could achieve this and get re-elected if he would tack against his instincts to the center right, but he is a true believer and all the people he trusts are fellow left wing wackos, so it may have to wait until 2013.

Well here's a step in that direction.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/us/po ... udget.html

[native]

Can anyone remember the 1968 Democratic Convention?!?? Unlike the circular firing squad erupting in the Democratic party, the social conks among Republicans are not stupid enough to fight over a few libertarian seats, because they know that they will prosper and enjoy more liberty with smaller government.

IMO, the political landscape is changing so rapidly and drastically that the 2012 Presidential election is not a done deal for anyone! People are afraid and angry, in that order, and the volatility will not settle out unless and until the economy improves and unemployment goes down - IF AND ONLY IF domestic security is not upset by another significant terror event. This will only happen when the President tacks to the center right and makes peace with Republicans.

Obama could achieve this and get re-elected if he would tack against his instincts to the center right, but he is a true believer and all the people he trusts are fellow left wing wackos, so it may have to wait until 2013.

Well here's a step in that direction.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/us/po ... udget.html

Other than breaking his campaign promises by keeping key elements of the Bush domestic defense policy, Obama's recent idea to freeze the budget is the FIRST good policy idea he has originated (edit: articulated) during the entire first year of his Presidency.

[youngterrier]

If the current administration does not improve, I would think that the GOP could win with ANYBODY if the Donkey nominee is Obama. Palin would be a lock in that case. Unfortunately for Palin, I foresee Obama becoming the first sitting President in AGES to lose his own party's nomination, and if that happens, it'll be Hillary. If Hillary's the Democratic nominee, I'm afraid that NOBODY on the GOP side can take the White House, even Sarah. NOW will back Hillary over Sarah in a heartbeat, and that will be enough to swing the election.

Hillary said she wasn't running, I doubt Biden would challenge Obama, and I heard somewhere that Ron Paul might not run in 2012 (I think that's just a rumor)

At this point I don't think I could vote for anybody on the field...I like Paul (as it has already been alluded to) but he doesn't seem presidential and neither does any other Republican or Libertarian. I would have voted for Sanford but we all know that's not happening

[Grizalltheway]

Well here's a step in that direction.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/us/po ... udget.html

Other than breaking his campaign promises by keeping key elements of the Bush domestic defense policy, Obama's recent idea to freeze the budget is the FIRST good policy idea he has articulated during the entire first year of his Presidency.

So the surge in Afghanistan was a bad idea in your mind?

[native]

Other than breaking his campaign promises by keeping key elements of the Bush domestic defense policy, Obama's recent idea to freeze the budget is the FIRST good policy idea he has articulated during the entire first year of his Presidency.

So the surge in Afghanistan was a bad idea in your mind?

The surge in Afghanistan was devised by Bush-Cheney and briefed in detail to Obama as he was being sworn in.

But good catch, GTH. I should have added a qualifier to make the distinction more clear.

[CID1990]

I don't know why you people waste your time talking abou that broad.

Mitt Romney will be the next GOP candidate. If not, it will be somebody who is not yet on the radar in any significant amount.

[FargoBison]

I couldn't vote for Palin or Huckabee, I would vote third party. I don't care if that is a vote for Obama, I have standards. I could vote for Romney but I still think the 2012 candidate will be somebody we aren't talking about right now.

[native]

If the current administration does not improve, I would think that the GOP could win with ANYBODY if the Donkey nominee is Obama. Palin would be a lock in that case. Unfortunately for Palin, I foresee Obama becoming the first sitting President in AGES to lose his own party's nomination, and if that happens, it'll be Hillary. If Hillary's the Democratic nominee, I'm afraid that NOBODY on the GOP side can take the White House, even Sarah. NOW will back Hillary over Sarah in a heartbeat, and that will be enough to swing the election.

Hillary said she wasn't running, I doubt Biden would challenge Obama, and I heard somewhere that Ron Paul might not run in 2012 (I think that's just a rumor)

At this point I don't think I could vote for anybody on the field...I like Paul (as it has already been alluded to) but he doesn't seem presidential and neither does any other Republican or Libertarian. I would have voted for Sanford but we all know that's not happening

Sanford broke my heart. What a dumbshit asshole!

[BDKJMU]

Well here's a step in that direction.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/us/po ... udget.html

Other than breaking his campaign promises by keeping key elements of the Bush domestic defense policy, Obama's recent idea to freeze the budget is the FIRST good policy idea he has originated (edit: articulated) during the entire first year of his Presidency.

Too late. After a 24% increase for FY09 and 2010', he needs to be announcing across the board dollar for dollar cuts in discretionary non defense/non homeland security spending.
http://www.cagw.org/newsroom/waste-watc ... ional.html

[BlueHen86]

If the current administration does not improve, I would think that the GOP could win with ANYBODY if the Donkey nominee is Obama. Palin would be a lock in that case. Unfortunately for Palin, I foresee Obama becoming the first sitting President in AGES to lose his own party's nomination, and if that happens, it'll be Hillary. If Hillary's the Democratic nominee, I'm afraid that NOBODY on the GOP side can take the White House, even Sarah. NOW will back Hillary over Sarah in a heartbeat, and that will be enough to swing the election.

I don't agree with that at all. I don't think Hillary is electable, the GOP base will be fired up against her and she won't get enough of the independent vote.
Also, I don't think Palin can beat anyone the Dems nominate. Obama will likely be one of her biggest supporters as the next election approaches since she is likely one of the few Republicans he is sure to beat.

[native]

If the current administration does not improve, I would think that the GOP could win with ANYBODY if the Donkey nominee is Obama. Palin would be a lock in that case. Unfortunately for Palin, I foresee Obama becoming the first sitting President in AGES to lose his own party's nomination, and if that happens, it'll be Hillary. If Hillary's the Democratic nominee, I'm afraid that NOBODY on the GOP side can take the White House, even Sarah. NOW will back Hillary over Sarah in a heartbeat, and that will be enough to swing the election.

I don't agree with that at all. I don't think Hillary is electable, the GOP base will be fired up against her and she won't get enough of the independent vote.
Also, I don't think Palin can beat anyone the Dems nominate. Obama will likely be one of her biggest supporters as the next election approaches since she is likely one of the few Republicans he is sure to beat.

A lot depends if the Republicans take back the House and/or the Senate and the economy stabilizes. If all three happen by the end of 2010, Obama is likely to be re-elected IF he merely stops with the strident socialist dogma.

I like Palin but she is not in my top 5 and she has not acquitted herself well on Fox thus far. Palin might be more electable if she were to win the Dem Senate seat in Alaska, return it to the Republican column, and gain some experience before seeking national office again. She is young enough to wait and is much better positioned to be a kingmaker in 2012.

[Gil Dobie]

This is only the first year of the Obama administration. A lot depends on Obama making adjustments to what the people want, and not what the Democrats want. Unfortunately, Obama is still talking about himself when interviewed. "I" or "ME" still dominates his conversation.

[Gil Dobie]

This is only the first year of the Obama administration. A lot depends on Obama making adjustments to what the people want, and not what the far left Democrats want. Unfortunately, Obama is still talking about himself when interviewed. "I" or "ME" still dominates his conversation.

[Wedgebuster]

Very obvious to me that Sarah Palin is doing what she thinks she must to put her in position for 2012. No doubt about that.

Question is, will the GOP actually nominate a dumber candidate than they did in 2000?

[Baldy]

Probably the only way the Donks would have a chance.

I love it, you and Z already calling 2012 for the conks! Don't you guys ever get sick of being wrong?

Speaking of being wrong, again. What part of probably, did you not understand?

[Baldy]

Other than breaking his campaign promises by keeping key elements of the Bush domestic defense policy, Obama's recent idea to freeze the budget is the FIRST good policy idea he has originated (edit: articulated) during the entire first year of his Presidency.

Too late. After a 24% increase for FY09 and 2010', he needs to be announcing across the board dollar for dollar cuts in discretionary non defense/non homeland security spending.
http://www.cagw.org/newsroom/waste-watc ... ional.html

Ain't gonna happen. Obama is an ideologue, so his agenda comes before anything.