'Imagine No Religion' signs to go up around Phoenix

[Appaholic]

Ok, ok.

You've out-imaged me.

[travelinman67]

Ok, ok.

You've out-imaged me.

Bullcrap.

Bring it on, App.

[Appaholic]

[Appaholic]

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[travelinman67]

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[travelinman67]

What Drives A Man To Militant Atheism?

...Why would a man, created by God in His image, wish to deny the very existence of He who Loves him more than any other being could? Theopsychologists have long wrestled with this vexing question, but have been unable to come to a satisfactory conclusion. Some suggest it is the result of his selfish desire to be free of accountability for his actions; others, that he is indoctrinated by a constant stream of Atheistic media propaganda produced by a small number of Satan's agents on earth; others still, that he suffers from some sort of brain damage, leaving him in a state of spiritual unaffectedness.

Whatever the origins of Atheism may be, given that, against all reason, the Atheist exists, that he would be driven to militarism and violence is actually understandable -- even unavoidable. He clearly suffers from some manner of derangement, either proceeding his Atheism or as a result of it, that causes him to lash out in irrational anger. He is unable to understand why he cannot function as a healthy spiritual person the way the rest of us do, making him both jealous and resentful. Most importantly, being separated from God, the wellspring of Love, drives him insane with hate.

Naturally, this leads us to conclude that militancy is an inherent part of the Atheistic mindset, that the Atheist will always seek violence, starting with the violence of intemperate words and escalating to the horrors of Stalinism. Unless we can convert him, heal his spiritual wounds, the Militant Atheist will always be a danger to society.

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[travelinman67]

[Cap'n Cat]

Hey, tm, you're as religious as a raccoon, so don't be poundin' the Bible here. You're just toeing the Conk line to toe the Conk line....and, as with most Conks, looking monumentally ridiculous doing.




You're fooling no one, Beastie Boy.

[D1B]

Communism, National Socalism, etc. are certainly failures. Atheism is not a religion nor is it a political or economic system. But you know this.

Irrelevent? - According to recent studies, those claiming "no religion" is the fastest growing group, while the Catholic Church is experiencing massive defection. Talk about irrelevence.

Society passed roman catholocism and it's outdated dogma decades ago. This coupled with the massive sexual abuse scandals and the commensurate bankruptsy of major archdioceses throughout America, has put RC on the map as perhaps one of the greatest contemporary moral failures - the raping and molestation of young boys on an industrial scale by priests and the cover up by church leaders.

Older people will still cling to their religion as memories of John Paul still dominate and offer a reprieve from the current ugliness within the church. A generation though is now growing up in a church wreaking of scandal and a time where to be catholic is an embarrassment. Sayanarra...

Population Growth and Decline of Atheism and Agnosticism

In the last few decades atheists have been a rapidly declining percentage of world population. They are now 2.5% of world population.



You're going to be extinct soon.

Joe, aint talking bout the world. With the exception of europe, they right behind us. Different argument, start a new thread and remind the clerks doing all your work to stay on topic.

People are fleeing the catholic church like rats from a sinking ship.

[JoltinJoe]

Joe, aint talking bout the world. With the exception of europe, they right behind us. Different argument, start a new thread and remind the clerks doing all your work to stay on topic.

People are fleeing the catholic church like rats from a sinking ship.

FACT CHECKING IN PROCESS

Result: Assertion false.

[D1B]

Joe, aint talking bout the world. With the exception of europe, they right behind us. Different argument, start a new thread and remind the clerks doing all your work to stay on topic.

People are fleeing the catholic church like rats from a sinking ship.

FACT CHECKING IN PROCESS

Result: Assertion false.

Truth hurts. Catholic Church in America = Pedophile Country Club = no one wants to be associated with it.

*You're losing your priests. No one want's the job. Daddy, when I grow up, I want to be a pedophile like Father Stanislous.... No one want's to be a catholic priest

[travelinman67]

"Duhh...Tman, your so Conk Rush regurgitative Conk vile skooter raccoon, flag, Rush hate..
You know, you Conk. I'se so many smarter than you."

God even loves ignorant pious putty tats, like you, Cap'n.

Now, piss off... App and I are gonna have it out with irrelevant, hate motivated, cliche'd, imagery.

[JoltinJoe]

Truth hurts. Catholic Church in America = Pedophile Country Club = no one wants to be associated with it.

*You're losing your priests. No one want's the job. Daddy, when I grow up, I want to be a pedophile like Father Stanislous.... No one want's to be a catholic priest

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FACT CHECKING IN PROCESS

Result: Assertion false.

[D1B]

Joe, aint talking bout the world. With the exception of europe, they right behind us. Different argument, start a new thread and remind the clerks doing all your work to stay on topic.

People are fleeing the catholic church like rats from a sinking ship.

FACT CHECKING IN PROCESS

Result: Assertion false.

Nice Einstein quote. Fact, prominent Jews gave false praise to the catholic church because they needed catholic support for a Jewish state.

From the Simon Wisenthal Center

34. What was the attitude of the churches vis-a-vis the persecution of the Jews? Did the Pope ever speak out against the Nazis?
Answer: The head of the Catholic Church at the time of the Nazi rise to power was Pope Pius XI. Although he stated that the myths of "race" and "blood" were contrary to Christian teaching (in a papal encyclical, March 1937), he neither mentioned nor criticized antisemitism. His successor, Pius XII (Cardinal Pacelli) was a Germanophile who maintained his neutrality throughout the course of World War II. Although as early as 1942 the Vatican received detailed information on the murder of Jews in concentration camps, the Pope confined his public statements to expressions of sympathy for the victims of injustice and to calls for a more humane conduct of the war.
Despite the lack of response by Pope Pius XII, several papal nuncios played an important role in rescue efforts, particularly the nuncios in Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, and Turkey. It is not clear to what, if any, extent they operated upon instructions from the Vatican. In Germany, the Catholic Church did not oppose the Nazis' antisemitic campaign. Church records were supplied to state authorities which assisted in the detection of people of Jewish origin, and efforts to aid the persecuted were confined to Catholic non-Aryans. While Catholic clergymen protested the Nazi euthanasia program, few, with the exception of Bernhard Lichtenberg, spoke out against the murder of the Jews.

In Western Europe, Catholic clergy spoke out publicly against the persecution of the Jews and actively helped in the rescue of Jews. In Eastern Europe, however, the Catholic clergy was generally more reluctant to help. Dr. Jozef Tiso, the head of state of Slovakia and a Catholic priest, actively cooperated with the Germans as did many other Catholic priests.

The response of Protestant and Eastern Orthodox churches varied. In Germany, for example, Nazi supporters within Protestant churches complied with the anti-Jewish legislation and even excluded Christians of Jewish origin from membership. Pastor Martin Niem"ller's Confessing Church defended the rights of Christians of Jewish origin within the church, but did not publicly protest their persecution, nor did it condemn the measures taken against the Jews, with the exception of a memorandum sent to Hitler in May 1936.

In occupied Europe, the position of the Protestant churches varied. In several countries (Denmark, France, the Netherlands, and Norway) local churches and/or leading clergymen issued public protests when the Nazis began deporting Jews. In other countries (Bulgaria, Greece, and Yugoslavia), some Orthodox church leaders intervened on behalf of the Jews and took steps which, in certain cases, led to the rescue of many Jews.

Fact, anti-semitisim is a catholic tradition. No catholic church = no holocaust. Pope JP apologized for the church's role in fueling anti semitism.

[JoltinJoe]

FACT CHECKING IN PROCESS

Result: Assertion false.

Nice Einstein quote. Fact, prominent Jews gave false praise to the catholic church because they needed catholic support for a Jewish state.

From the Simon Wisenthal Center

34. What was the attitude of the churches vis-a-vis the persecution of the Jews? Did the Pope ever speak out against the Nazis?
Answer: The head of the Catholic Church at the time of the Nazi rise to power was Pope Pius XI. Although he stated that the myths of "race" and "blood" were contrary to Christian teaching (in a papal encyclical, March 1937), he neither mentioned nor criticized antisemitism. His successor, Pius XII (Cardinal Pacelli) was a Germanophile who maintained his neutrality throughout the course of World War II. Although as early as 1942 the Vatican received detailed information on the murder of Jews in concentration camps, the Pope confined his public statements to expressions of sympathy for the victims of injustice and to calls for a more humane conduct of the war.
Despite the lack of response by Pope Pius XII, several papal nuncios played an important role in rescue efforts, particularly the nuncios in Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, and Turkey. It is not clear to what, if any, extent they operated upon instructions from the Vatican. In Germany, the Catholic Church did not oppose the Nazis' antisemitic campaign. Church records were supplied to state authorities which assisted in the detection of people of Jewish origin, and efforts to aid the persecuted were confined to Catholic non-Aryans. While Catholic clergymen protested the Nazi euthanasia program, few, with the exception of Bernhard Lichtenberg, spoke out against the murder of the Jews.

In Western Europe, Catholic clergy spoke out publicly against the persecution of the Jews and actively helped in the rescue of Jews. In Eastern Europe, however, the Catholic clergy was generally more reluctant to help. Dr. Jozef Tiso, the head of state of Slovakia and a Catholic priest, actively cooperated with the Germans as did many other Catholic priests.

The response of Protestant and Eastern Orthodox churches varied. In Germany, for example, Nazi supporters within Protestant churches complied with the anti-Jewish legislation and even excluded Christians of Jewish origin from membership. Pastor Martin Niem"ller's Confessing Church defended the rights of Christians of Jewish origin within the church, but did not publicly protest their persecution, nor did it condemn the measures taken against the Jews, with the exception of a memorandum sent to Hitler in May 1936.

In occupied Europe, the position of the Protestant churches varied. In several countries (Denmark, France, the Netherlands, and Norway) local churches and/or leading clergymen issued public protests when the Nazis began deporting Jews. In other countries (Bulgaria, Greece, and Yugoslavia), some Orthodox church leaders intervened on behalf of the Jews and took steps which, in certain cases, led to the rescue of many Jews.

Fact, anti-semitisim is a catholic tradition. No catholic church = no holocaust. Pope JP apologized for the church's role in fueling anti semitism.

What a crock of BS. We've already established just how wrong you are. Citing to biased sources, which I have previously shown are full of shyt, doesn't help you.

Really, get a grip.

[D1B]

Nice Einstein quote. Fact, prominent Jews gave false praise to the catholic church because they needed catholic support for a Jewish state.

From the Simon Wisenthal Center
Fact, anti-semitisim is a catholic tradition. No catholic church = no holocaust. Pope JP apologized for the church's role in fueling anti semitism.

What a crock of BS. We've already established just how wrong you are. Citing to biased sources, which I have previously shown are full of shyt, doesn't help you.

Really, get a grip.

You may have attempted to establish something, but I don't recall your thoughts on the quote above. Yet another Joltin Joe lie. You're gonna wear out the kneeler in the confession booth!

I expect nothing less from someone who still believes in fairy tales.



"OK, tell Adolf he can kill all the jews and non catholics he wants. He can kill no more than 1,000 catholics during a 24 hour period, and we can keep our church. Remind him, for appearances sake, we will at some time have to publicly condemn him, but tell him not to worry, it's just the way the game is played. Alrighty then, anyone for a game of Jenga?"

[JoltinJoe]

We haven't previously discussed the lack of credibility of the Simon Wiesenthal Center? Well, then, take a look at this. Most Jewish organizations are troubled by its tendency to make sensational, misleading, and deceptive claims. Take a look at this.

LA Times Abstract, 12/14/84

[D1B]

We haven't previously discussed the lack of credibility of the Simon Wiesenthal Center? Well, then, take a look at this. Most Jewish organizations are troubled by its tendency to make sensational, misleading, and deceptive claims. Take a look at this.

LA Times Abstract, 12/14/84

No, we have not, you are well aware of this,hence my opinion that you frequently lie.

[JoltinJoe]

We haven't previously discussed the lack of credibility of the Simon Wiesenthal Center? Well, then, take a look at this. Most Jewish organizations are troubled by its tendency to make sensational, misleading, and deceptive claims. Take a look at this.

LA Times Abstract, 12/14/84

No, we have not, you are well aware of this,hence my opinion that you frequently lie.

Tool.

I asked you a question. I thought you had cited to this website before in a prior debate.

I don't lie. Prick. If you didn't previously cited to this website before, then I apologize. However, I have beaten you like a rented mule so many times, and I can't be expected to remember all the details of each time I've thrashed you.

In fact, I'll add this. I knew a lawyer by the name of Justin Finger through our alumni affairs. He was Fordham Law guy from the mid-50's or so. He was a pretty well known and highly respected lawyer, and he was active in the Anti-Defamation League. And he told me once that he felt that the Wiesenthal Center's claims about the Catholic Church were highly irresponsible.

[D1B]

No, we have not, you are well aware of this,hence my opinion that you frequently lie.

I don't lie. Prick. If you didn't previously cited to this website before, then I apologize.

Yes you do. Apology accepted. Keep it on the high road Joe and we'll be fine.