NCAA trying to ban messages on eye black under the 'Tebow Ru

[clenz]

For the NCAA it's two things:

1. Anti-Christion: Funny how the concern for this didn't pop up until a Heisman winner has references to Bible versus on his eye black, whereas before they never even cared to notice it.

2. Greed: It's all about the Benjamins. NCAA wants to provide "sanctioned" eye black messages down the road sold to the highest bidder..."Drink Coke" anyone?

There has been talk of banning writting on the eye black for years. Reggie Bush started the whole anti-writing thing a couple years ago.

[JMU DJ]

Hmmm, wonder if the 1st amendment applies in this situation.

[dbackjon]

The voice of reason!

WE all know America is full of copycats. Now that Tebow is gone, who knows what type of messages we'd be seeing. They waited until Tebow was gone so as to not seem like they are picking on him or his religion.

So if Tebow was putting Pro-Gay messages on his cheek patches and this rule was passed would you be all up in arms over it being anti-gay? Just a question.

Not at all. NCAA has the right to do this.

[JayJ79]

Hmmm, wonder if the 1st amendment applies in this situation.

If so, then all uniform/equipment regulations violate the first amendment.

[SuperHornet]

Leave Tebow alone. If one has any sort of memory at all, this isn't the "Tebow Rule." It's the "McMahon Rule." Learn your football history, dudes.

[ASUMountaineer]

Leave Tebow alone. If one has any sort of memory at all, this isn't the "Tebow Rule." It's the "McMahon Rule." Learn your football history, dudes.

Ok. It's been in the works a long time, eh?

[89Hen]

i can see why they are doing this
but he is not trying to promote himself

its not like he wrote his name on them

His uncle, Dan Teague, is a bible salesman in Mississippi so it could be that it really is an ad.

[93henfan]

He could man up and just get John 3:16 tattooed under his eyes.

[BigDawgPop]

What's next? Tatoo's? There are all kinds of messages on those and just about every athlete has them now days. Are they going to make players cover them up? Bball players will all have to wear long sleeves.

[grizzaholic]

So if Tebow was putting Pro-Gay messages on his cheek patches and this rule was passed would you be all up in arms over it being anti-gay? Just a question.

Not at all. NCAA has the right to do this.

Just wondering.

[BlackFalkin]

Leave it to those NCAA eggheads to ban messages on eyeblack. The REAL problem is probably more people googled 3:16 than the sponsors.

[JConnolly]

I think the players should be able to have their team's logo if they want to, or have plain eyeblack. No messages, paragraphs, or novels, just a simple team logo or plain no decoration. Also would this ban colored eyeblack? I don't mean to sound like an idiot, but a few years ago, I was playing in high school, and I saw another team that had blue eyeblack on. Would this be covered by the rule?

[collegesportsinfo]

Tim Tebow may have used up his four years of eligibility, but that doesn't mean he can't still have an impact on college football.

The NCAA's Football Rules Committee is proposing a ban on Tebow's most identifiable feature — the bible verses on his eye black. The new proposal, introduced Thursday, would ban all words, logos, numbers or other symbols on the players' eye black, beginning in the 2010 season.

The rule will not become official until it is approved by the NCAA's Playing Rules Oversight Panel.

The NCAA didn't mention Tebow by name, but the rule was already being unofficially dubbed "The Tebow Rule" by media and fans on Friday morning.

Hundreds of college football players use their eye black to boast of their hometown, home area code or love of a mother or girlfriend. But Tebow, a devout Christian, is the most prominent example of a player using his eye black as a personal billboard, having used it the past two seasons to print a bible verse and promote his faith. After the 2009 BCS Championship Game, 92 million people Googled "John 3:16," the verse Tebow wore during the game. With the new rule, such a phenomenon would never have taken place.

The NFL also has a "no messages on the eye black" rule, meaning if Tebow plays in the league, he no longer will be able to adorn his famous bible verses during games.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/gat ... 32356.html

It already came up when Reggie Bush was playing...nothing done about that (419)

[ccd494]

I'm going to get ripped for this, but whatever.

My reaction? FINALLY.

I am not a Christian. I don't believe in God. If other people are Christian, and are religious, I don't have a problem with that. My issue is with the double standard. If I were a division one football player and put "THERE IS >>> NO GOD" under my eyes, there would be an outcry. Or if a Muslim player put "ALLAHU>>>AKBAR" people would start preparing for the apocalypse.

I don't need Brent Musberger searching out quotiations from Hebrews to read on air.

Be religious all you want, just don't proselytize to me, and don't put it right in my face. Let me watch a football game without accepting Jesus Christ as my lord and personal savior.

[dbackjon]

I'm going to get ripped for this, but whatever.

My reaction? FINALLY.

I am not a Christian. I don't believe in God. If other people are Christian, and are religious, I don't have a problem with that. My issue is with the double standard. If I were a division one football player and put "THERE IS >>> NO GOD" under my eyes, there would be an outcry. Or if a Muslim player put "ALLAHU>>>AKBAR" people would start preparing for the apocalypse.

I don't need Brent Musberger searching out quotiations from Hebrews to read on air.

Be religious all you want, just don't proselytize to me, and don't put it right in my face. Let me watch a football game without accepting Jesus Christ as my lord and personal savior.

[DKHardee]

I'm going to get ripped for this, but whatever.

My reaction? FINALLY.

I am not a Christian. I don't believe in God. If other people are Christian, and are religious, I don't have a problem with that. My issue is with the double standard. If I were a division one football player and put "THERE IS >>> NO GOD" under my eyes, there would be an outcry. Or if a Muslim player put "ALLAHU>>>AKBAR" people would start preparing for the apocalypse.

I don't need Brent Musberger searching out quotiations from Hebrews to read on air.

Be religious all you want, just don't proselytize to me, and don't put it right in my face. Let me watch a football game without accepting Jesus Christ as my lord and personal savior.

ya'll are going to hell, haha

[SuperJon]

I'm going to get ripped for this, but whatever.

My reaction? FINALLY.

I am not a Christian. I don't believe in God. If other people are Christian, and are religious, I don't have a problem with that. My issue is with the double standard. If I were a division one football player and put "THERE IS >>> NO GOD" under my eyes, there would be an outcry. Or if a Muslim player put "ALLAHU>>>AKBAR" people would start preparing for the apocalypse.

I don't need Brent Musberger searching out quotiations from Hebrews to read on air.

Be religious all you want, just don't proselytize to me, and don't put it right in my face. Let me watch a football game without accepting Jesus Christ as my lord and personal savior.

I'm going to agree with part of this.

I agree completely that there would be a ginormous outcry if anyone said anything "advertising" any religion other than Christianity from mainstream Christians.

However, as a Christian, I fully support someone showing their faith within the given rules. If this is allowed, then so be it. If it's not allowed, then stop doing it and play by the rules.

While I absolutely, 100% love the fact that Biblical scripture was read on air to millions of people, but the truth is Tim Tebow actually living his faith was much more effective in talking about Christianity than Bible verses on his eye black. The fact that he claimed to be a Christian and then backed it up with his actions while being the most scrutinized person in a completely secular environment had more impact on non-Christians than a few Bible verses on eye black.

[DKHardee]

I absolutely, 100% love the fact that Biblical scripture was read on air to millions of people

x2

[ccd494]

I absolutely, 100% love the fact that Biblical scripture was read on air to millions of people

x2

At the risk of taking this completely off topic, I think this aspect is overblown as a tool of conversion. However, it may have had "value" (defining value as in bringing people to faith) in reaffirming or strengthening the faith of those who already had it.

Tebow is an exceptionally polarizing figure. Speaking as a nonbeliever, I grew to strongly dislike Tim Tebow. I admire his football ability. I also respected him as a Christian who, to use a non-religious term, put his money where his mouth is. Being preached to by Tim Tebow certainly is more palatable than by a Christian who, frankly, probably follows fewer Commandments than I do.

But I don't think many of the atheists, nontheists, antitheists, humanists, etc. in America are that way due to a lack of knowledge about faith or the teachings of Jesus Christ. It is, frankly, everywhere. Most came to the realization that they didn't believe through a period of study, reflection and discussion. Personally, I've read the Bible. Multiple times. I've also read the Torah, the Koran, the Bhagavad Gita, the teachings of Buddha and Confuscius, and other religious texts. I would say that, in America, those that are ignorant of the Bible are few and far between. References to scripture aren't likely to win hearts and minds.

Although, having typed this all up, I realize that we are now having the discussion. Which was probably the point anyways.

You roped me in, Tebow!

[dbackjon]

I'm going to get ripped for this, but whatever.

My reaction? FINALLY.

I am not a Christian. I don't believe in God. If other people are Christian, and are religious, I don't have a problem with that. My issue is with the double standard. If I were a division one football player and put "THERE IS >>> NO GOD" under my eyes, there would be an outcry. Or if a Muslim player put "ALLAHU>>>AKBAR" people would start preparing for the apocalypse.

I don't need Brent Musberger searching out quotiations from Hebrews to read on air.

Be religious all you want, just don't proselytize to me, and don't put it right in my face. Let me watch a football game without accepting Jesus Christ as my lord and personal savior.

I'm going to agree with part of this.

I agree completely that there would be a ginormous outcry if anyone said anything "advertising" any religion other than Christianity from mainstream Christians.

However, as a Christian, I fully support someone showing their faith within the given rules. If this is allowed, then so be it. If it's not allowed, then stop doing it and play by the rules.

While I absolutely, 100% love the fact that Biblical scripture was read on air to millions of people, but the truth is Tim Tebow actually living his faith was much more effective in talking about Christianity than Bible verses on his eye black. The fact that he claimed to be a Christian and then backed it up with his actions while being the most scrutinized person in a completely secular environment had more impact on non-Christians than a few Bible verses on eye black.

I respect Tebow for walking the walk. We all know he could have had sex every day and night, with any man or women within 50 miles of Gainesville...

But his actions are what makes him respectful. The verses kinda jump the shark for me - putting a cheese factor into it.

[MaximumBobcat]

I'm all for the individual school's or programs dictating what can be or cannot be put on their eye black, but does the NCAA really need to get involved? I guess it's the libertarian in me.

[SuperHornet]

He could man up and just get John 3:16 tattooed under his eyes.

Tebow is NOT Iron Mike. No way he gets a facial tat.

[SuperHornet]

I agree completely that there would be a ginormous outcry if anyone said anything "advertising" any religion other than Christianity from mainstream Christians.

However, as a Christian, I fully support someone showing their faith within the given rules. If this is allowed, then so be it. If it's not allowed, then stop doing it and play by the rules.

While I absolutely, 100% love the fact that Biblical scripture was read on air to millions of people, but the truth is Tim Tebow actually living his faith was much more effective in talking about Christianity than Bible verses on his eye black. The fact that he claimed to be a Christian and then backed it up with his actions while being the most scrutinized person in a completely secular environment had more impact on non-Christians than a few Bible verses on eye black.

[SuperHornet]

I'm surprised nobody's brought up Austin 3:16 yet.

ROFL.

[JayJ79]

I'm going to get ripped for this, but whatever.

My reaction? FINALLY.

I am not a Christian. I don't believe in God. If other people are Christian, and are religious, I don't have a problem with that. My issue is with the double standard. If I were a division one football player and put "THERE IS >>> NO GOD" under my eyes, there would be an outcry. Or if a Muslim player put "ALLAHU>>>AKBAR" people would start preparing for the apocalypse.

I don't need Brent Musberger searching out quotiations from Hebrews to read on air.

Be religious all you want, just don't proselytize to me, and don't put it right in my face. Let me watch a football game without accepting Jesus Christ as my lord and personal savior.

I don't see why Christians should have any problem with someone referencing the Koran,
nor do I see why non-Christians should have any problem with someone referencing the Bible.
No real difference than if someone chose to reference Moby Dick, or 1984, or the Bridges of Madison County, or Dick and Jane. *shrug*

But like I said earlier, I don't have a problem with the NCAA making another rule regarding uniforms either.