THE GRIZ REIGN IS OFFICIALLY OVER!

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

All you did was repeat what bandl said, sit down & shut up.

All you bandwagon griz fans need to realize a few things
1. That new coach is gonna drop the ball the first year (like most new coaches do)
2. Taiwan Jones is the real deal.
3. Montana State is much better than you think.
4. Weber State really won the Big Sky in '08
5. That red turf is gonna change things in Cheney.
6. The Griz Reign is Officially over.

Thanks for the cute youtube video, that was a nice, yet ineffective touch. You actually failed to address two points I made all by myself: Pflugrad is not new to the system, the actual team is going to have an impact, not just the coaching staff. As to your points:

1. You accused me of recycling an argument made by someone else, yet you have yet to actually address the fact that there have been coaching changes at Montana and the streak has continued.
2. Taiwan Jones played against Montana last year, and he did not win the game. Chase Reynolds is also the real deal.
3. You don't know how good I think Montana State is.
4. Except they shared it. Don't let facts get in the way of your argument.
5. You are really clinging to hope if you think changing the color of a field is going to propel a team to greatness. If it were that easy, I'm sure every team in the country would be doing it.
6. Just because you use the word "official" doesn't mean it has happened yet, or that it is true.

He kinda nailed all those points down well. Serkey is a good one so far here BF so you're gonna have to pull out some A game cuz he ain't getting rattled.

[SuperHornet]

Somehow I suspect that there were (or would have been) threads like this brought by Kitty and Eagle fans at eGriz or on their own boards when Hauck was hired. To make judgment calls like this before the season's been played when dealing with a streak of this durable nature is ignorant bravado at best. The Griz WILL be in the playoffs be it autobid or at-large. Given the SUSTAINED history of the last twenty years or so, it will likely be the autobid. If one wants to speculate about improvements under new coaching staffs, it looks like Sacred City will do a much better job vs. UM than EWU. But regardless, until the final 2010 standings come out, IF one must assume at all, one MUST assume status quo. BF's arguments are pure speculation. What SOMETIMES happens during coaching changes is nowhere near what WILL happen. Tell that to the 49'ers during the change from Walsh to Seifert. If BF's speculation didn't happen then, then there's no guarantee that it will hold here.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

[grizzaholic]

This thread seems to be a whole lot of wishful thinking.

[Grizo406]

Although there are some good posts, beside mine...the thread title is just plain, crazy talk!!!

[eagle1]

I think we all know who beat the Eags in Missoula last fall! Remeber the refs made numerous bogus calls that helped the Griz win. These calls were so bad that Big Sky Commissioner, Doug Fullerton, issued a statement of reprimand to the officials. I stayed late enough after the game and watched the refs drive away in cars with Montana plates.

[FCS Go!]

I think we all know who beat the Eags in Missoula last fall! Remeber the refs made numerous bogus calls that helped the Griz win. These calls were so bad that Big Sky Commissioner, Doug Fullerton, issued a statement of reprimand to the officials. I stayed late enough after the game and watched the refs drive away in cars with Montana plates.

BS, the calls went both ways and BS. Try again.

[grizband]

1. If the old coach (BH) left and got promoted to a higher level & the new coach step up from a lower level to this (fcs head coach) level. We can safely assume the old coach is better than the new coach.

2. Its very likely that the Griz will have a 'down' year bc of the Head Coach change. Fact.

1. 1996 - Mick Dennehy replaced Don Read, lost in the title game. FACT

2. 2000 - Mick Dennehey was "promoted" to Utah State; Montana replaced him with Joe Glenn from then DII Northern Colorado. Montana lost in the championship game. FACT

3. 2003 - Bobby Hauck replaced Joe Glenn, lost in the title in the next year. FACT

It is not a fact, simply your opinion, that a new coach equates to a down year.

[eagle1]

Fair both ways...are you freakin serious! Public announcements aren't made when the calls are even both ways. They are made when they are unbalanced in ones favor and might have directly affected the outcome of the game.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I think we all know who beat the Eags in Missoula last fall! Remeber the refs made numerous bogus calls that helped the Griz win. These calls were so bad that Big Sky Commissioner, Doug Fullerton, issued a statement of reprimand to the officials. I stayed late enough after the game and watched the refs drive away in cars with Montana plates.

As was already said the reason Fullerton got involved was due to the calls going bad on both sides of the ball and I always get a pretty good giggle out of the guys that need to blame the loss on the ref. Which calls exactly kept you fellers from winning that game?

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Fair both ways...are you freakin serious! Public announcements aren't made when the calls are even both ways. They are made when they are unbalanced in ones favor and might have directly affected the outcome of the game.

Really how did they directly affect the outcome of the game for you birds?

The announcement was made because the reffing was spotty and both sides had bs calls on them. They don't make announcements just because it was unfair to one team they also make them when the reffing was just terrible on both sides of the ball. We had a shitload go against us in key situations as well but we were able to overcome it and salt away another victory.

[eagle1]

The phantom late hit out of bounds was the one that set up one of your TD's. There are several more but that is the big one. Remember the game was decided by a single TD. BS!!!

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

The phantom late hit out of bounds was the one that set up one of your TD's. There are several more but that is the big one. Remember the game was decided by a single TD. BS!!!

yup that bogus as was a late hit call on us that kept one of your td drives alive so we can take that one and mark it up as a push. Tell me though how other than that and the bogus penalty that was called on the slowing down running into the endzone on TJ that really stick in your craw? You got the points for that and the bs call made the kickoff further than it should have been but is that the game changer that you are refering to?

[eagle1]

I think you are referring to the celebration penalty on EWU's Boyce slowing down into the endzone on a TD but then the refs failed to call one on Mariani on his TD punt return when he raised his hand in the air from the 10 yard line on into the endzone. I remember seeing a picture taken by Missoulian varifying Mariana's celebration.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I think you are referring to the celebration penalty on EWU's Boyce slowing down into the endzone on a TD but then the refs failed to call one on Mariani on his TD punt return when he raised his hand in the air from the 10 yard line on into the endzone. I remember seeing a picture taken by Missoulian varifying Mariana's celebration.

yes, I already said that the Boyce call was dumb as shit and shouldn't be made. They got that wrong and it was one of the reasons they issued the statement. You got the score though.

We're back to even right now on the points though so I'm trying to find out where you come up with the points to win that game? As I said we're at a push on the unsportsmanlikes that led to a TD for each team.

[Montanan]

different year, same old birdshit.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

different year, same old birdshit.

I know! It's always funny though.

[MrTitleist]

I stayed late enough after the game and watched the refs drive away in cars with Montana plates.

Holy shit! You mean they probably jumped into a rental car from Dollar and drove to their hotel, then probably the airport?!?!

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I stayed late enough after the game and watched the refs drive away in cars with Montana plates.

Holy shit! You mean they probably jumped into a rental car from Dollar and drove to their hotel, then probably the airport?!?!

I didn't even want to mention that cuz I'm having a hard enough time trying to find out which TD's we shouldn't have gotten or which ones they should have gotten that would have gotten EWU to at least even on the scoreboard to send it into OT and I'm having trouble getting that out of him without adding to his silliness.

[AZGrizFan]

Even truncated I'm seeing a lot of a certain team in there

Yeah it's almost every year.

It's weird. Real weird.

[DJH]

[kemajic]

1. If the old coach (BH) left and got promoted to a higher level & the new coach step up from a lower level to this (fcs head coach) level. We can safely assume the old coach is better than the new coach.

2. Its very likely that the Griz will have a 'down' year bc of the Head Coach change. Fact.

So by your logic, Joe Glenn was better than Bobby Hauck; Mick Dennahy was better than Joe Glenn. You are an idiot. The Griz can have a down year and still dominate the BSC; check the record.

We go to Cheney with two senior experienced QBs; you have a newbie; forget that? I like our chances. You managed 3 points against us last time there with Mr. Nichols, forget that, too? Are you still crying about the refereeing in that one, too?

[BlackFalkin]

1. You accused me of recycling an argument made by someone else, yet you have yet to actually address the fact that there have been coaching changes at Montana and the streak has continued.
2. Taiwan Jones played against Montana last year, and he did not win the game. Chase Reynolds is also the real deal.
3. You don't know how good I think Montana State is.
4. Except they shared it. Don't let facts get in the way of your argument.
5. You are really clinging to hope if you think changing the color of a field is going to propel a team to greatness. If it were that easy, I'm sure every team in the country would be doing it.
6. Just because you use the word "official" doesn't mean it has happened yet, or that it is true.

1. Answer this question; bc there was a similar successful/smooth transition, that means this transition will also be successful/smooth? Yes or No? ( dont give me that long-winded crap)

2.That was TJ's FIRST year playing that position & he was givin mthafckas the blues! EWU hasnt had a back like that since Darius Washington '04. Do Not Sleep on him. You WILL regret it. Chase Reynolds IS good. I saw him run over the corner Donte Calcoate in the fckin endzone to seal the deal. Like I said the Griz are successful only because,unlike 90% of other teams, they want to win. They dont give up, but dont EVER convince yourself its bc UM has better talent bc they DONT. TJ=Big Sky MVP.

3. Yes I do.

4. Are you insane!?, my point was people assume UM came in 1st in '08, when IN REALITY,(just outside Mt) Weber State came in first bc they BTG.

5.NOW THATS WISHFUL THINKING Theres only one problem.. everybody cant be the Eags baby! Go read my post about 'Facility upgrades & team performance".

6. Just stfu.

[BlackFalkin]

Holy ****! You mean they probably jumped into a rental car from Dollar and drove to their hotel, then probably the airport?!?!

I didn't even want to mention that cuz I'm having a hard enough time trying to find out which TD's we shouldn't have gotten or which ones they should have gotten that would have gotten EWU to at least even on the scoreboard to send it into OT and I'm having trouble getting that out of him without adding to his silliness.

Gang mentality, see thats the thing about you Griz, bandwagon-homos.. You NEED each other.. I rip your @sses to confetti on a daily basis so you have to link up.. just like two females when her period on. You half-a-homo dudes need to do yourself a favor and press stop on the dvd player, take 'Deliverance' back to blockbuster, pull your pants up, & stop takin it in the rear from the Griz bookstore, merch & season tix departments.

[Tailbone]

....... When Villanova shut down Mariani in the second half of the NC, the Griz were toast. .........

Close....It's been said of Michael Jordan, that the only person who could keep him from scoring was Dean Smith. Same could be said of Mariani and Bobby Hauck.