Black Falkin where do I start?

[AZGrizFan]

Whatever. Just keep posting so that avatar gets more publicity.

Ya know sometimes I get the feeling some of you guys live vicariously through me.

Nope. I live through myself.

[grizzaholic]

Ya know sometimes I get the feeling some of you guys live vicariously through me.

Nope. I live through myself.

BF, with all of those coffee cups you have been posting lately, I would think you have been living WITH mainejeff

[clenz]

Whatever. Just keep posting so that avatar gets more publicity.

Ya know sometimes I get the feeling some of you guys live vicariously through me.

I'm white...in America that gives me an advantage in life from the start. Why would I want to live vicariously through a non-professional athlete black guy?

[grizzaholic]

Ya know sometimes I get the feeling some of you guys live vicariously through me.

I'm white...in America that gives me an advantage in life from the start. Why would I want to live vicariously through a non-professional athlete black guy?

But HE played the game and has some rings to prove it.

SO THERE!

Game. Set. Match. BF

[clenz]

I'm white...in America that gives me an advantage in life from the start. Why would I want to live vicariously through a non-professional athlete black guy?

But HE played the game and has some rings to prove it.

SO THERE!

Game. Set. Match. BF

I have a state title ring from high school too....point?

[grizzaholic]

But HE played the game and has some rings to prove it.

SO THERE!

Game. Set. Match. BF

I have a state title ring from high school too....point?

I got nothing. I was just using BF's logic and reasoning skills that he knows so much more about the game than the rest of us.

[clenz]

I have a state title ring from high school too....point?

I got nothing. I was just using BF's logic and reasoning skills that he knows so much more about the game than the rest of us.

[grizzaholic]

I got nothing. I was just using BF's logic and reasoning skills that he knows so much more about the game than the rest of us.

And that isn't a gang sign he is showing with his hand. He is deaf and is in the middle of signing something.

[BlackFalkin]

I'm white...in America that gives me an advantage in life from the start. Why would I want to live vicariously through a non-professional athlete black guy?

What advantage is that exactly?


ps.

Spoiler: show

Im about to rip your @ss to confetti

[clenz]

I'm white...in America that gives me an advantage in life from the start. Why would I want to live vicariously through a non-professional athlete black guy?

What advantage is that exactly?


ps.

Spoiler: show

Im about to rip your @ss to confetti

Dude...I'm not into gay sex.


If you don't think that whites have an advantage in America, you are retarded.

[BlackFalkin]

Answer the question. What advantage is that?

[clenz]

Answer the question. What advantage is that?

Well, according to Peggy McIntosh

Daily effects of white privilege

I decided to try to work on myself at least by identifying some of the daily effects of white privilege in my life. I have chosen those conditions that I think in my case attach somewhat more to skin-color privilege than to class, religion, ethnic status, or geographic location, though of course all these other factors are intricately intertwined. As far as I can tell, my African American coworkers, friends, and acquaintances with whom I come into daily or frequent contact in this particular time, place and time of work cannot count on most of these conditions.

1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.

2. I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.

3. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.

4. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.

5. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.

6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.

7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.

8. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.

9. If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.

10. I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.

11. I can be casual about whether or not to listen to another person's voice in a group in which s/he is the only member of his/her race.

12. I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a supermarket and find the staple foods which fit with my cultural traditions, into a hairdresser's shop and find someone who can cut my hair.

13. Whether I use checks, credit cards or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.

14. I can arrange to protect my children most of the time from people who might not like them.

15. I do not have to educate my children to be aware of systemic racism for their own daily physical protection.

16. I can be pretty sure that my children's teachers and employers will tolerate them if they fit school and workplace norms; my chief worries about them do not concern others' attitudes toward their race.

17. I can talk with my mouth full and not have people put this down to my color.

18. I can swear, or dress in second hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty or the illiteracy of my race.

19. I can speak in public to a powerful male group without putting my race on trial.

20. I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.

21. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.

22. I can remain oblivious of the language and customs of persons of color who constitute the world's majority without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.

23. I can criticize our government and talk about how much I fear its policies and behavior without being seen as a cultural outsider.

24. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to the "person in charge", I will be facing a person of my race.

25. If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven't been singled out because of my race.

26. I can easily buy posters, post-cards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys and children's magazines featuring people of my race.

27. I can go home from most meetings of organizations I belong to feeling somewhat tied in, rather than isolated, out-of-place, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance or feared.

28. I can be pretty sure that an argument with a colleague of another race is more likely to jeopardize her/his chances for advancement than to jeopardize mine.

29. I can be pretty sure that if I argue for the promotion of a person of another race, or a program centering on race, this is not likely to cost me heavily within my present setting, even if my colleagues disagree with me.

30. If I declare there is a racial issue at hand, or there isn't a racial issue at hand, my race will lend me more credibility for either position than a person of color will have.

31. I can choose to ignore developments in minority writing and minority activist programs, or disparage them, or learn from them, but in any case, I can find ways to be more or less protected from negative consequences of any of these choices.

32. My culture gives me little fear about ignoring the perspectives and powers of people of other races.

33. I am not made acutely aware that my shape, bearing or body odor will be taken as a reflection on my race.

34. I can worry about racism without being seen as self-interested or self-seeking.

35. I can take a job with an affirmative action employer without having my co-workers on the job suspect that I got it because of my race.

36. If my day, week or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether it had racial overtones.

37. I can be pretty sure of finding people who would be willing to talk with me and advise me about my next steps, professionally.

38. I can think over many options, social, political, imaginative or professional, without asking whether a person of my race would be accepted or allowed to do what I want to do.

39. I can be late to a meeting without having the lateness reflect on my race.

40. I can choose public accommodation without fearing that people of my race cannot get in or will be mistreated in the places I have chosen.

41. I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help, my race will not work against me.

42. I can arrange my activities so that I will never have to experience feelings of rejection owing to my race.

43. If I have low credibility as a leader I can be sure that my race is not the problem.

44. I can easily find academic courses and institutions which give attention only to people of my race.

45. I can expect figurative language and imagery in all of the arts to testify to experiences of my race.

46. I can chose blemish cover or bandages in "flesh" color and have them more or less match my skin.

47. I can travel alone or with my spouse without expecting embarrassment or hostility in those who deal with us.

48. I have no difficulty finding neighborhoods where people approve of our household.

49. My children are given texts and classes which implicitly support our kind of family unit and do not turn them against my choice of domestic partnership.

50. I will feel welcomed and "normal" in the usual walks of public life, institutional and social.

[clenz]

You would be one of the few black, assuming you actually are, people I've ever talked too that doesn't believe in white priveledge

[clenz]

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... _62793250/

[BlackFalkin]

Answer the question. What advantage is that?

Well, according to Peggy McIntosh

All you did was quote someone else. I want to know, from YOUR point of view what the advantage is?

[clenz]

I feel that in 2010 the privilege is way over blown. However, if you read the opinions of the African-American bloggers, the left wing in America, etc... there is so much advantage of being white that it isn't fair.


Are you denying white privilege?

[Willie]

If you all wanna talk race, just watch Spike Lee's Bamboozled...that'll open your eyes.

[BlackFalkin]

Are you denying white privilege?

Clenz, are you going to tell us what advantage you have?

[Ibanez]

Are you denying white privilege?

Clenz, are you going to tell us what advantage you have?

[BlackFalkin]

Silence is golden

[clenz]

Silence is golden

When I go into and interview I don't have to worry about a boss worrying if I speak Ebonics or not,I'll be perceived as more literate and well read/rounded. The company is less likely to be worried about me stealing things from the office, getting busted for drugs/rape/guns/etc..., I'll likely start out at a higher pay even if i'm less qualified than a black co-worker that starts the same time as me for the same position. Being in the field I am in, clients will be less worried about me coming into their homes as opposed to a black man....


I can keep going if you wish, but I wasn't going to admit it will happen because I want to believe people are above that these days...reality is though that they aren't.



No, I answered your question, answer mine. Do you not believe that there is, still today, white privilege in America?

[grizzaholic]

A BF sighting?

[clenz]

Thanks for bumping this. I'm still waiting for bf to answer me after I handed him his ass

[grizzaholic]

hummmm

[BlackFalkin]

1. I don't have to worry about a boss worrying if I speak Ebonics or not,
2. I'll be perceived as more literate and well read/rounded.
3. The company is less likely to be worried about me stealing things from the office,etc...,
4. I'll likely start out at a higher pay even if i'm less qualified than a black co-worker.
5. Being in the field I am in, clients will be less worried about me coming into their homes as opposed to a black man.

Do you not believe that there is, still today, white privilege in America?

Clenz, you've got life f'cked up.
#1. I dont have to worry about speaking ebonics either. The moment I speak my first sentence, the ebonics theory goes right out the door.
#2. I've earned two degrees, I'm literate & very well rounded.
#3. I have no criminal record, NOTHING. Companies dont have to worry about me stealing.
#4. Theres no data stating you will start out making more money than me for the same position. Thats simply not true.
#5. Theres no data proving that, you've simply made that up. When I do business I look the part bc I am the part. I'm professional in every way. My car, hair, nails, shoes, clothes, watch, speech ect.. You have no idea what you're talking about.

If someone, reguarless of race, wants to prejudge someone else... thats terrible. HOWEVER, for white privilege to exist your average White American must be prejudice. That's something I just dont buy. You're wrong and you need to realize it FAST.