Kudos to Obama's Nuclear Ambitions

[houndawg]

Nice backpeddal **** Face!

Something you'll NEVER see an a-hole like you or houndawg do. EVEN when proven incorrect.

Now Z, that is just downright uncharitable.

I said right here in this very thread that I have changed my stance on nuclear power.

[AZGrizFan]

Something you'll NEVER see an a-hole like you or houndawg do. EVEN when proven incorrect.

Now Z, that is just downright uncharitable.

I said right here in this very thread that I have changed my stance on nuclear power.

Your brownie medal is in the mail.

[native]

Obama is probably smart enough to realize that cap-and-trade is a lost cause and that he will waste a ton of time and energy to try and pass it just as he did with healthcare. That, and I think that he has come to the realization that his wind and solar plan is a complete fantasy even if you can get around all of the hurdles of where those generators can be placed.

The question is, will the Pelosi/Feinstein wing of the democratic party derail it and delay the path to energy independence even more?

After the healthcare summit fiasco, why in the world would you think that Obama is smart enough to realize that cap and trade is a lost cause?

[native]

Nice backpeddal **** Face!

Something you'll NEVER see an a-hole like you or houndawg do. EVEN when proven incorrect.

At least with houndawg (unlike d1b) we occasionally get a substantive contribution. We may have to suffer a hundred BS posts, but the gems are there if you are willing to dig through the s***.

Besides, debating the dawg is kinda like playing Idaho State. It's usually an easy win.

"Debating" with d1b is like arguing with a urine-soaked alcoholic criminal vagrant on drugs. Better not to waste your time. Just call the cops and let them cart him off to jail where he belongs.

[AZGrizFan]

Obama is probably smart enough to realize that cap-and-trade is a lost cause and that he will waste a ton of time and energy to try and pass it just as he did with healthcare. That, and I think that he has come to the realization that his wind and solar plan is a complete fantasy even if you can get around all of the hurdles of where those generators can be placed.

The question is, will the Pelosi/Feinstein wing of the democratic party derail it and delay the path to energy independence even more?

After the healthcare summit fiasco, why in the world would you think that Obama is smart enough to realize that cap and trade is a lost cause?

Touche.

[travelinman67]

Also found this:


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Depends on whether that was a management directive or operators cookin' the maintenance books....looks like we may BOTH be somewhat right on this one...

A huge problem in either case, - hard to believe that somebody working at the plant, an experienced operator who knows what he is playing with, would sit still for having their life placed in jeopardy by a management directive.

Again, a seat of the pants assessment without knowing the facts (or context of their training and experience). Most nuclear professionals zealously defend their industry, as they know the overwhelming, extensive training and safety-related redundancy incorporated in facility design and staff education. As I mentioned before, at Seco, there was a measured, studied attitude of "problem solving" in everything done. Workers couldn't piss without mgmt first having studied the frequency and volume, before preparing an "Acceptable urination schedule" for each and every employee. Work tasks were carefully laid out for EVERYONE, by plant mgmt., and the workers had developed a plethora of "off schedule" activities for those who completed their "assigned tasks" early: The HR term applied to the leftover allottment was entitled "FTD" (Fuck The Dog) time (basically, sitting on your hands and staring at the wall). And no, there was no abuse of drugs or alcohol by staff as all employees were required to provide monthly urine samples.
Outside of the military & DOD contractors, I doubt you'd find any private sector industry more managed and studied than nuclear generation.

But I digress...

...dawg...

...your insistence on being correct is undermined by your lack of knowledge about the industry. In the absence of astronomical data, standing on the corner and saying the world will end tomorrow does not qualify you as prophet or seer if an asteroid appears next week and destroys earth. It merely makes you a whiney fatalist whose avocation is creating "causes" to bitch about...

[D1B]

Nice backpeddal Fuck Face!

Something you'll NEVER see an a-hole like you or houndawg do. EVEN when proven incorrect.

[D1B]

A huge problem in either case, - hard to believe that somebody working at the plant, an experienced operator who knows what he is playing with, would sit still for having their life placed in jeopardy by a management directive.

Again, a seat of the pants assessment without knowing the facts (or context of their training and experience). Most nuclear professionals zealously defend their industry, as they know the overwhelming, extensive training and safety-related redundancy incorporated in facility design and staff education. As I mentioned before, at Seco, there was a measured, studied attitude of "problem solving" in everything done. Workers couldn't piss without mgmt first having studied the frequency and volume, before preparing an "Acceptable urination schedule" for each and every employee. Work tasks were carefully laid out for EVERYONE, by plant mgmt., and the workers had developed a plethora of "off schedule" activities for those who completed their "assigned tasks" early: The HR term applied to the leftover allottment was entitled "FTD" (Fuck The Dog) time (basically, sitting on your hands and staring at the wall). And no, there was no abuse of drugs or alcohol by staff as all employees were required to provide monthly urine samples.
Outside of the military & DOD contractors, I doubt you'd find any private sector industry more managed and studied than nuclear generation.

But I digress...

...dawg...

...your insistence on being correct is undermined by your lack of knowledge about the industry. In the absence of astronomical data, standing on the corner and saying the world will end tomorrow does not qualify you as prophet or seer if an asteroid appears next week and destroys earth. It merely makes you a whiney fatalist whose avocation is creating "causes" to bitch about...

Tman, better luck next issue.

[travelinman67]

...standing on the corner and saying the world will end tomorrow does not qualify you as prophet or seer if an asteroid appears next week and destroys earth. It merely makes you a whiney fatalist whose avocation is creating "causes" to bitch about...

Tman, better luck next issue.

Et voila! Enter King Fatalist!

[AZGrizFan]

Again, a seat of the pants assessment without knowing the facts (or context of their training and experience). Most nuclear professionals zealously defend their industry, as they know the overwhelming, extensive training and safety-related redundancy incorporated in facility design and staff education. As I mentioned before, at Seco, there was a measured, studied attitude of "problem solving" in everything done. Workers couldn't piss without mgmt first having studied the frequency and volume, before preparing an "Acceptable urination schedule" for each and every employee. Work tasks were carefully laid out for EVERYONE, by plant mgmt., and the workers had developed a plethora of "off schedule" activities for those who completed their "assigned tasks" early: The HR term applied to the leftover allottment was entitled "FTD" (Fuck The Dog) time (basically, sitting on your hands and staring at the wall). And no, there was no abuse of drugs or alcohol by staff as all employees were required to provide monthly urine samples.
Outside of the military & DOD contractors, I doubt you'd find any private sector industry more managed and studied than nuclear generation.

But I digress...

...dawg...

...your insistence on being correct is undermined by your lack of knowledge about the industry. In the absence of astronomical data, standing on the corner and saying the world will end tomorrow does not qualify you as prophet or seer if an asteroid appears next week and destroys earth. It merely makes you a whiney fatalist whose avocation is creating "causes" to bitch about...

Tman, better luck next issue.

Once again, Douche1Bag is here to blather on and on, and claim some mythical victory without his "side" producing so much as a single source and without ANY identifiable knowledge of the topic at hand.

Congratulations, you're 1,000,367-1.

[D1B]

Tman, better luck next issue.

Once again, Douche1Bag is here to blather on and on, and claim some mythical victory without his "side" producing so much as a single source and without ANY identifiable knowledge of the topic at hand.

Congratulations, you're 1,000,367-1.

Hey, Score Keeper Abe, I dont have a dog in this fight. Just enjoying watching Dawg make fools of the you and Tee.

[AZGrizFan]

Once again, Douche1Bag is here to blather on and on, and claim some mythical victory without his "side" producing so much as a single source and without ANY identifiable knowledge of the topic at hand.

Congratulations, you're 1,000,367-1.

Hey, Score Keeper Abe, I dont have a dog in this fight. Just enjoying watching Dawg make fools of the you and Tee.

Now you're 1,000,368-1. In your own mind.

[travelinman67]

Once again, Douche1Bag is here to blather on and on, and claim some mythical victory without his "side" producing so much as a single source and without ANY identifiable knowledge of the topic at hand.

Congratulations, you're 1,000,367-1.

Hey, Score Keeper Abe, I dont have a dog in this fight. Just enjoying watching Dawg make fools of the you and Tee.

...what was that about IQ being a function of perception...

"I pronounce myself, King!"

[houndawg]

A huge problem in either case, - hard to believe that somebody working at the plant, an experienced operator who knows what he is playing with, would sit still for having their life placed in jeopardy by a management directive.

Again, a seat of the pants assessment without knowing the facts (or context of their training and experience). Most nuclear professionals zealously defend their industry, as they know the overwhelming, extensive training and safety-related redundancy incorporated in facility design and staff education. As I mentioned before, at Seco, there was a measured, studied attitude of "problem solving" in everything done. Workers couldn't piss without mgmt first having studied the frequency and volume, before preparing an "Acceptable urination schedule" for each and every employee. Work tasks were carefully laid out for EVERYONE, by plant mgmt., and the workers had developed a plethora of "off schedule" activities for those who completed their "assigned tasks" early: The HR term applied to the leftover allottment was entitled "FTD" (**** The Dog) time (basically, sitting on your hands and staring at the wall). And no, there was no abuse of drugs or alcohol by staff as all employees were required to provide monthly urine samples.
Outside of the military & DOD contractors, I doubt you'd find any private sector industry more managed and studied than nuclear generation.

But I digress...

...Yes, you do; often and at considerable length.

Too bad some of that FTD time wasn't used for things like say......... maintenance?

And those work tasks that were carefully laid out for everyone? Did they include signing off the maintenance logs without doing the maintenance? Or was that a responsibility the do-or-die ex-Navy operators assumed on their own?

[houndawg]

Once again, Douche1Bag is here to blather on and on, and claim some mythical victory without his "side" producing so much as a single source and without ANY identifiable knowledge of the topic at hand.

Congratulations, you're 1,000,367-1.

Hey, Score Keeper Abe, I dont have a dog in this fight. Just enjoying watching Dawg make fools of the you and Tee.

Now, D, the purpose is to educate the benighted, not to poke fun at their mental shortcomings or make fools of them for sport.


Tman is a textbook example of what happens when you live too close to a nuclear power plant that leaks. Hey....wait a minute.....Tman.....your brother.....the nuke engineer.....................is his name Homer?

[houndawg]

Hey, Score Keeper Abe, I dont have a dog in this fight. Just enjoying watching Dawg make fools of the you and Tee.

Now, D, the purpose is to educate the benighted, not to poke fun at their mental shortcomings or make fools of them for sport.


Tman is a textbook example of what happens when you live too close to a nuclear power plant that leaks. Hey....wait a minute.....Tman.....your brother.....the nuke engineer.....................is his name Homer?