The (real) reasons why Frisco was chosen

[polsongrizz]

Now you have to drive 7-8 hrs to Spokane .

Under three. Price $172 - $265 No plane change.

[CatMom]

Most map services use center to center (of a town/city) when gauging distances. Mapquest lists that as 28.63 miles. Frisco isn't 30 minutes if I'm driving
My brother lived in Lewisville (24.07) and it never took me that long, when I hit the center of Dallas, to get to his house.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

It will be way cheaper (Southwest) out of Spokane WA for Griz fans.

If I remember correctly, Delta has N/S service Bozeman to Atlanta, plus a two hour drive to Chatty and you were at the NC game. Now you have to drive 7-8 hrs to Spokane (on I-90 in January no less) to get a "cheap" Southwest flight or fly thru Denver or Chicago or some place else. It doesn't appear this move made it any easier from Griz fans to get to the game. The advance purchase airfare will be nice, but the trip doesn't look easier.

ps. Chatty was at worst a one stop flight from anything east of Denver.. You fly to Nashville or Atlanta and rent a car. The drive was less time than a layover/prop plane to Chatty and a whole lot cheaper.

To Bozeman:
I-90 E
202 mi

To Spokane:
198 mi

It's about 2 1/2 hrs either way.

[CatMom]

While our FB team takes a direct charter flight to Missoula, my daughter took a one-stop (Denver) there, for her BIL's wedding; landing in Missoula, from Austin. And that's saying a lot because you don't go a whole lot of places from Austin-Bergstrom without a layover or plane change. Looks to me like there are several airlines (Delta, United, Alaska Air) that have direct flights from Missoula to DFW. One of them is like 4 1/2 hours; which would be about the same as my driving time (with occasional stops)

I bet priceline, or other such sites, can get you a good deal

[crash]

Most of you would not be happy if we hung you with new rope.

[89Hen]

There are some fairly weak facts/reasons flying aroung

I will agree with that... from both sides.

[89Hen]

Going back the last 5 or so seasons:
If you're referring to the JMU @ UD games:
-05' and 07' @ UD, both those games were sellouts on UD's Parent's weekend. Plus in 07' UD had just come off the Navy upset and was ranked #7, JMU was #12. No way JMU is going to be able to get any more than the CAA minimum.
-This past season JMU came into that game 2-5/0-4 (before the 4 games CAA win streak to finish the season 6-5/4-4) so of course JMU was only going to brink a couple hundred fans.

No offense, but those are pretty weak excuses.

[goapps93]

Except it's not true.

Yep, the Cotton Bowl, in its 70 some year history, is usually on Jan 1, and has never been played after Jan 2. Moving it almost a week later is likely a one time deal.

As far as the NC game next year, it LIKELY WON'T BE ON JAN 7th:
"The next championship game is scheduled for Jan. 7, 2011, the same day that the Cotton Bowl Classic is to be played in prime time on Fox. Burnett said the NCAA told him that if Frisco gets the game, it would work with local officials and ESPN, which televises the game, on the date.

"We don't want to be going head-to-head with the Cotton Bowl in this market," Burnett said."
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/ne ... id=4906728" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So all of you numb nuts can quit repeating how the game is going to be on at the same time as the Cotton Bowl. Ain't gonna happen.

So tell us, BDK, to what date do you think the NC game will be moved? The whole weekend of the 7th through the 10th is bad, Cotton Bowl on the 7th, NFL Playoffs on the 8th and 9th, BCS Championship on the 10th. Weekend before is all the other BCS bowl games. The other choices are Tues, Wed. and Thursday, boy, any of those days of the week would sure guarantee a sell-out. Maybe they'll just move it back to December. I still think the NCAA has really screwed up in several ways. They are completely at the mercy of the almighty BCS. With the way it's done we can't blame the NCAA for the move to Frisco since they only consider cities that bid to host the game. That, though, is where I think we can blame the NCAA. If they really cared about FCS and the National Championship then it would seem, to me, that they would seek out a top notch location for it and work with that location to make it happen.

[GannonFan]

Going back the last 5 or so seasons:
If you're referring to the JMU @ UD games:
-05' and 07' @ UD, both those games were sellouts on UD's Parent's weekend. Plus in 07' UD had just come off the Navy upset and was ranked #7, JMU was #12. No way JMU is going to be able to get any more than the CAA minimum.
-This past season JMU came into that game 2-5/0-4 (before the 4 games CAA win streak to finish the season 6-5/4-4) so of course JMU was only going to brink a couple hundred fans.

No offense, but those are pretty weak excuses.

Agreed. UD has ~11k season ticket holders and they hold back 2.5k for students. So in a 22k seat stadium, there are 8.5k single seats per game (a minimum since UD's students typically don't even come in those numbers). Single game ticket sales start in early August, and I've never seen a game at UD sold out any earlier than 2 weeks before the game, and most of the times the sell out isn't acheived until maybe 2-3 days before gameday. That gives most people anywhere from 1-4 months in which to purchase tickets. Visiting teams get 500 tickets, and JMU typically returns some portion of this to UD. There is more than ample time, considering the schedules are known 9-10 months in advance, to make plans, purchase the widely available tickets, and get to the game, assuming the fanbase is a decent travelling fanbase. Other schools with supposedly smaller fanbases (Richmond, W&M, UMass among others) come to UD with larger number of fans. Apparently they are able to navigate the overwhelming task of planning a roadtrip more than a day in advance.

[89Hen]

Other schools with supposedly smaller fanbases (Richmond, W&M, UMass among others) come to UD with larger number of fans.

Yup. And I think back to a W&M game in the Burg late in the season in 2005. Hens were 4-5 going into the game and I walked around to the home side to get some pics and was standing next to two W&M fans who were blown away with the number of Hens fans there (well over 1k) given the losing record.

[BlackFalkin]

Agreed. UD has ~11k season ticket holders and they hold back 2.5k for students. So in a 22k seat stadium, there are 8.5k single seats per game (a minimum since UD's students typically don't even come in those numbers). Single game ticket sales start in early August, and I've never seen a game at UD sold out any earlier than 2 weeks before the game, and most of the times the sell out isn't acheived until maybe 2-3 days before gameday. That gives most people anywhere from 1-4 months in which to purchase tickets. Visiting teams get 500 tickets, and JMU typically returns some portion of this to UD. There is more than ample time, considering the schedules are known 9-10 months in advance, to make plans, purchase the widely available tickets, and get to the game, assuming the fanbase is a decent travelling fanbase. Other schools with supposedly smaller fanbases (Richmond, W&M, UMass among others) come to UD with larger number of fans. Apparently they are able to navigate the overwhelming task of planning a roadtrip more than a day in advance.

Is that really fair in a 22k stadium? Does that include the visitor band? Teams like Montana bring THOUSANDS of fans. Even Eastern brings alot of fans to big games....IDK, maybe the Big (Dck) Sky Conference is just better.

[89Hen]

Is that really fair in a 22k stadium? Does that include the visitor band? Teams like Montana bring THOUSANDS of fans. IDK, maybe the Big (Dck) Sky Conference is just better.

Montana = Delaware, EWU probably brings 150 to away games.

[FargoBison]

Yep, the Cotton Bowl, in its 70 some year history, is usually on Jan 1, and has never been played after Jan 2. Moving it almost a week later is likely a one time deal.

As far as the NC game next year, it LIKELY WON'T BE ON JAN 7th:
"The next championship game is scheduled for Jan. 7, 2011, the same day that the Cotton Bowl Classic is to be played in prime time on Fox. Burnett said the NCAA told him that if Frisco gets the game, it would work with local officials and ESPN, which televises the game, on the date.

"We don't want to be going head-to-head with the Cotton Bowl in this market," Burnett said."
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/ne ... id=4906728" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So all of you numb nuts can quit repeating how the game is going to be on at the same time as the Cotton Bowl. Ain't gonna happen.

So tell us, BDK, to what date do you think the NC game will be moved? The whole weekend of the 7th through the 10th is bad, Cotton Bowl on the 7th, NFL Playoffs on the 8th and 9th, BCS Championship on the 10th. Weekend before is all the other BCS bowl games. The other choices are Tues, Wed. and Thursday, boy, any of those days of the week would sure guarantee a sell-out. Maybe they'll just move it back to December. I still think the NCAA has really screwed up in several ways. They are completely at the mercy of the almighty BCS. With the way it's done we can't blame the NCAA for the move to Frisco since they only consider cities that bid to host the game. That, though, is where I think we can blame the NCAA. If they really cared about FCS and the National Championship then it would seem, to me, that they would seek out a top notch location for it and work with that location to make it happen.

Sunday night would work, since the last game is a late afternoon kickoff(4:40). I guess Saturday at 1 p.m. would also work since the first NFL game kicks off at 4:30 p.m. All times eastern.

[BlackFalkin]

The great football fans of Texas left more than 28,000* seats sit empty at Cowboy Stadium for the 2010 Cotton Bowl.....
*Opening Cowboy game 2010 attendance 105,000 .... 2010 Cotton Bowl 77,000

Attendance for the 2010 Cotton Bowl 77,928
Big 12 championship on Dec 5, 2009 76,211
Stadium capacity for football listed as 80,000

It can be made to accommodate 28,000 more but usually only needed for major NFL rivalries (Giants) and did so for the NBA Allstar game.

You're also assuming no FCS fans[or teams]in the SLC will venture to an NC game. Which I think is a bad assumption.

She just unbuttoned your fly, reached in your jeans, & ripped your marbles off!
Good job CatMom

[89Hen]

Sunday night would work, since the last game is a late afternoon kickoff(4:40). I guess Saturday at 1 p.m. would also work since the first NFL game kicks off at 4:30 p.m. All times eastern.

Can you say lost in the shuffle?

[BlackFalkin]

Is that really fair in a 22k stadium? Does that include the visitor band? Teams like Montana bring THOUSANDS of fans. IDK, maybe the Big (Dck) Sky Conference is just better.

Montana = Delaware, EWU probably brings 150 to away games.

Montana = Delaware when it comes to what? That rinky dink Stadium w/ pee wall? No real press box? No Artificial turf? No double deck? crappy, small endzone seating? ANCIENT sideline seats? What exactly are you saying?

[89Hen]

Montana = Delaware when it comes to what? That rinky dink Stadium w/ pee wall? No real press box? No Artificial turf? No double deck? crappy, small endzone seating? ANCIENT sideline seats? What exactly are you saying?

You have no dog in this hunt.

[BlackFalkin]

Montana = Delaware when it comes to what? That rinky dink Stadium w/ pee wall? No real press box? No Artificial turf? No double deck? crappy, small endzone seating? ANCIENT sideline seats? What exactly are you saying?

You have no dog in this hunt.

Its not a hunt, its your burial. Frisco's stadium is a great idea, 90% - Sellout every year for sure.

[FargoBison]

Sunday night would work, since the last game is a late afternoon kickoff(4:40). I guess Saturday at 1 p.m. would also work since the first NFL game kicks off at 4:30 p.m. All times eastern.

Can you say lost in the shuffle?

Perhaps, but Saturday afternoon or Sunday night is a better time slot than Friday night. Saturday afternoon might be the best, it will give people a break from all the mind numbing NFL pregame coverage.

[89Hen]

Frisco's stadium is a great idea

So is red turf.

[GannonFan]

Agreed. UD has ~11k season ticket holders and they hold back 2.5k for students. So in a 22k seat stadium, there are 8.5k single seats per game (a minimum since UD's students typically don't even come in those numbers). Single game ticket sales start in early August, and I've never seen a game at UD sold out any earlier than 2 weeks before the game, and most of the times the sell out isn't acheived until maybe 2-3 days before gameday. That gives most people anywhere from 1-4 months in which to purchase tickets. Visiting teams get 500 tickets, and JMU typically returns some portion of this to UD. There is more than ample time, considering the schedules are known 9-10 months in advance, to make plans, purchase the widely available tickets, and get to the game, assuming the fanbase is a decent travelling fanbase. Other schools with supposedly smaller fanbases (Richmond, W&M, UMass among others) come to UD with larger number of fans. Apparently they are able to navigate the overwhelming task of planning a roadtrip more than a day in advance.

Is that really fair in a 22k stadium? Does that include the visitor band? Teams like Montana bring THOUSANDS of fans. Even Eastern brings alot of fans to big games....IDK, maybe the Big (Dck) Sky Conference is just better.

The 500 is the "official" allottment. Anyone is allowed to buy the other 8.5k tickets that are available to the general public. As for bands, schools have to buy seats for the band to come - UMass, West Chester, Del St, and Towson regularly buy seats for their bands - afik, JMU is the only one with a credible marching band that doesn't bring their band to UD.

[BlackFalkin]

Frisco's stadium is a great idea

So is red turf.

Your right. EWU envy noted. That red turf has made news. Unlike Tubby. The Tubster. The Tubbski. What a joke.

[grizzaholic]

So is red turf.

Your right. EWU envy noted. That red turf has made news. Unlike Tubby. The Tubster. The Tubbski. What a joke.

And you would know the most about being a joke, right?

[89Hen]

Your right. EWU envy noted. That red turf has made news

So did the guy who shot his football coach.

BTW, what's on my right?

[grizzaholic]

Your right. EWU envy noted. That red turf has made news

So did the guy who shot his football coach.

BTW, what's on my right?

An arm and a hand?



ooooo oooo.. I know.. The EAST COAST?