Starbucks Caught in the Middle
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Starbucks Caught in the Middle
Yahoo! is reporting that open-carry state gun owners are patronizing Starbucks and other restaurants with holstered weapons on their hips, causing a gun-control lobby uproar. Starbucks, an unwilling entrant in this fight, claims to be complying with state law in the 43 states with open-carry laws on the books. The gun-control lobby sent a petition to Starbucks HQ that is apparently being ignored. Gun-control is screaming bloody murder, yet nobody's apparently been shot yet.
I think that until the explicit law of a given place is violated, this is much ado about nothing.
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I think that until the explicit law of a given place is violated, this is much ado about nothing.
Opinions?

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Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle
They aren't doing anything against the law. Why does Starbucks' name get brought into this?
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Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle
Because that seems to be the place du jour for the open-carry folk to do this regardless of area. If Starbucks is anything, it's certainly ubiquitous.

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Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle
I don't see the problem if they are in compliance with local laws. This could as easily be McD's, KFC, etc. I'm not a coffee drinker, so it really doesn't impact me.
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Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle
If you are a legal owner, you may openly carry a loaded firearm almost anywhere in the US if it is carried openly and not hidden.
Nothing new about this, it's just generally regarded to be an act of douchbaggery to march around your town with a loaded gun all the time.
Living in what could be arguably the nations number one state with regards to number of guns owned per capita, I can tell you that the only people I see packing guns around here are cops, unless it happens to be hunting season.
I could mow my lawn with pistols strapped on my side, and shotguns and rifles bristling off my shoulders, but hey, I already look silly enough in the shorts and boots.
Nothing new about this, it's just generally regarded to be an act of douchbaggery to march around your town with a loaded gun all the time.
Living in what could be arguably the nations number one state with regards to number of guns owned per capita, I can tell you that the only people I see packing guns around here are cops, unless it happens to be hunting season.
I could mow my lawn with pistols strapped on my side, and shotguns and rifles bristling off my shoulders, but hey, I already look silly enough in the shorts and boots.
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Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle
Wedgebuster wrote: I could mow my lawn with pistols strapped on my side, and shotguns and rifles bristling off my shoulders, but hey, I already look silly enough in the thong and boots.
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Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle
Same thing in MTWedgebuster wrote:If you are a legal owner, you may openly carry a loaded firearm almost anywhere in the US if it is carried openly and not hidden.
Nothing new about this, it's just generally regarded to be an act of douchbaggery to march around your town with a loaded gun all the time.
Living in what could be arguably the nations number one state with regards to number of guns owned per capita, I can tell you that the only people I see packing guns around here are cops, unless it happens to be hunting season.
I could mow my lawn with pistols strapped on my side, and shotguns and rifles bristling off my shoulders, but hey, I already look silly enough in the shorts and boots.
Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle
you gotta do what you gotta do to battle them gophers.Wedgebuster wrote:I could mow my lawn with pistols strapped on my side, and shotguns and rifles bristling off my shoulders

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and yet people complain that they can't carry in schools, hospitals, and the like.Wedgebuster wrote:If you are a legal owner, you may openly carry a loaded firearm almost anywhere in the US if it is carried openly and not hidden.
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Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle
I enjoy Starbucks....gotta say that up front...
But every Starbucks around here is full of granola-crunchin', sandal-wearin', liberal-votin' former/pretend hippies, yuppies and x-geners...
Not that there's anything wrong with being one or more of those...
But those kind of people tend to be anti-guns...so unless you are sporting a badge, they don't like guns with their lattes...
But every Starbucks around here is full of granola-crunchin', sandal-wearin', liberal-votin' former/pretend hippies, yuppies and x-geners...
Not that there's anything wrong with being one or more of those...
But those kind of people tend to be anti-guns...so unless you are sporting a badge, they don't like guns with their lattes...
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Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle
Well, your screen profile does say you live in Utopia.Wedgebuster wrote: Living in what could be arguably the nations number one state with regards to number of guns owned per capita, I could mow my lawn with pistols strapped on my side, and shotguns and rifles bristling off my shoulders, but hey, I already look silly enough in the shorts and boots.
These signatures have a 500 character limit?
What if I have more personalities than that?
What if I have more personalities than that?
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Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle
Goes back a month or so...danefan wrote:They aren't doing anything against the law. Why does Starbucks' name get brought into this?
...gun rights advocates were holding informal meetings at Northern CA (Bay Area) restaurants and coffee houses, so Brian Malte over at the Brady Foundation for Restricting Freedom used the Rainbow Coalition's greenmail technique to go afer a few CA "fruit and nut" businesses seeking a pledge for them to ban firearms in their business. Peet's Coffee and California Kitchen caved, but when they got to Starbucks, their counsel advised them to pass.
http://www.ajc.com/business/starbucks-a ... 43282.html
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Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle
Sounds good. I think I'd go in with an alley-sweeper slung casually off the shoulder and one-up the pistol packers.SuperHornet wrote:Yahoo! is reporting that open-carry state gun owners are patronizing Starbucks and other restaurants with holstered weapons on their hips, causing a gun-control lobby uproar. Starbucks, an unwilling entrant in this fight, claims to be complying with state law in the 43 states with open-carry laws on the books. The gun-control lobby sent a petition to Starbucks HQ that is apparently being ignored. Gun-control is screaming bloody murder, yet nobody's apparently been shot yet.
I think that until the explicit law of a given place is violated, this is much ado about nothing.
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