Pro Day Updates and Stock Report

[SmallSchoolFan]

Finally this website is showing up so therefore I am taking down this post on AGS and putting all of the info here. Hope you guys enjoy!

RB Deji Karim, Southern Illinois
5086, 209 pounds
40- 4.37-4.40
reps- 19
vertical- 43
broad jump- 10'3
3-cone- 6.67
short shuttle- 4.05

CB Patrick Stoudamire, Western Illinois
5102, 205 pounds
40- 4.45-4.46
reps- 11
broad jump- 9'11
3-cone- 6.67
short shuttle- 3.98

DE James Ruffin, Northern Iowa
6034, 264 pounds
40- 4.75-4.78
reps- 27
vertical- 31
broad jump- 9'5
3-cone- 7.21
short shuttle- 4.58

OT Andrew Tyshovnytsky, Fordham
6042, 317 pounds
40- 4.91-4.94
reps- 33
vertical- 28
broad jump- 9'2
3-cone- 7.99
short shuttle- 4.83

OT Chris Campbell, Eastern Illinois
6050, 328 pounds
40-5.21-5.29
reps- 14
vertical- 26.5
broad jump- 8'0
3-cone- 8.08
short shuttle- 4.14

TE Scott Sicko, New Hampshire
6042, 251 pounds
40- 4.53-4.55
reps- 22
vertical- 35
broad jump- 10'2
3-cone- 6.90
short shuttle- 4.36

CB Josh Morris, Weber State
5113, 186 pounds
40- 4.51-4.55
reps- 10
vertical- 39.5
broad jump- 10'7

WR Thomas Harris, Alabama A&M
6000, 175 pounds
40- 4.47-4.51
reps- 10
vertical- 39

RB J.T. Rogan, San Diego
5097, 202 pounds
40- 4.54-4.55
reps- 13
vertical- 36
broad jump- 9'3
3-cone- 6.71
short shuttle- 4.13

RB Tony Nelson, UMASS
5091, 208 pounds
40- 4.55-4.57
reps- 17
vertical- 36
broad jump- 10'4
3-cone- 6.62
short shuttle- 4.33

DT Kyle Harrington, UMASS
6036, 287 pounds
40- 4.93-4.95
reps- 40
vertical- 27.5
broad jump- 8'9
3-cone- 7.23
short shuttle- 4.40

WR Victor Cruz, UMASS
5114, 208 pounds
40- 4.48-4.50
reps- 13
vertical- 41.5
broad jump- 10'5
short shuttle- 4.33

CB Gabriel Derricks, San Diego
6011, 192 pounds
40- 4.68-4.70
reps- 14
vertical- 31
broad jump- 9'4
3-cone- 7.55
short shuttle- 4.40

Harrington is now forcing everyone to go back and evaluate his tape. Now a solid PFA.

Karim is moving up the board but to be honest should not be because anyone who watched him is not shocked at those numbers. I have him in the 4th-6th round range.

Stoudamire might have solidified a draft grade. I would say he is a 6th-7th round projection right now.

Scott Sicko's numbers are not verified yet but if those hold up he could get selected in the 5th-7th round.

Victor Cruz had a solid workout.

Gabe Derricks is too slow for CB and likely moving to safety.

Nelson, Rogan, Harris, and Morris all have a major flag either in terms of medical, lack of bulk, etc. but all had good workouts and should be solid PFAs.

The Fordham OT is a sleeper. Don't be surprised if he is selected in the late rounds.

[dbackjon]

Good deal - thanks!

[AZGrizFan]

Scott Sicko.....that might be the greatest name EVER.

[SmallCollegeFBFan]

Scott Sicko.....that might be the greatest name EVER.

It is sure up there!

[dbackjon]

I see you got your old name back!

[Skjellyfetti]

OT Chris Campbell, Eastern Illinois
6050, 328 pounds
40-5.21-5.29
reps- 14
vertical- 26.5
broad jump- 8'0
3-cone- 8.08
short shuttle- 4.14

Wow. 14 reps? That is ridiculously low for someone as big and slow as he is.

[SmallCollegeFBFan]

OT Chris Campbell, Eastern Illinois
6050, 328 pounds
40-5.21-5.29
reps- 14
vertical- 26.5
broad jump- 8'0
3-cone- 8.08
short shuttle- 4.14

Wow. 14 reps? That is ridiculously low for someone as big and slow as he is.

Actually his 40 is not bad. Kerry Brown ran a 5.16 40 at his pro day. The reps are bad though. Linemen need to have over 20 or else they are considered weak.

[Skjellyfetti]

Wow. 14 reps? That is ridiculously low for someone as big and slow as he is.

Actually his 40 is not bad. Kerry Brown ran a 5.16 40 at his pro day. The reps are bad though. Linemen need to have over 20 or else they are considered weak.

And Kerry Brown did over twice the reps. I wasn't really criticizing him for his slowness or his weight... just saying if he's going to be that size and speed he better be strong.

[SmallCollegeFBFan]

Actually his 40 is not bad. Kerry Brown ran a 5.16 40 at his pro day. The reps are bad though. Linemen need to have over 20 or else they are considered weak.

And Kerry Brown did over twice the reps. I wasn't really criticizing him for his slowness or his weight... just saying if he's going to be that size and speed he better be strong.

Hope you didn't take that as me being a jerk. I am not like that. Yeah that is true. I was just stating that his 40 is not really slow. His strength needs work though. Despite his bench I still expect him to get a contract.

[pantherrob82]

I heard Chad Kackert of New Hampshire ran a rediculous 40 at their pro day. Any word on his #s?

[SeattleGriz]

According to the National Strength and Conditioning Association (NSCA), the #1 best draft indicator is...







Vertical leap.

Just thought I would throw that out there.

[houndawg]

Finally this website is showing up so therefore I am taking down this post on AGS and putting all of the info here. Hope you guys enjoy!

RB Deji Karim, Southern Illinois
5086, 209 pounds
40- 4.37-4.40
reps- 19
vertical- 43
broad jump- 10'3
3-cone- 6.67
short shuttle- 4.05

CB Patrick Stoudamire, Western Illinois
5102, 205 pounds
40- 4.45-4.46
reps- 11
broad jump- 9'11
3-cone- 6.67
short shuttle- 3.98

DE James Ruffin, Northern Iowa
6034, 264 pounds
40- 4.75-4.78
reps- 27
vertical- 31
broad jump- 9'5
3-cone- 7.21
short shuttle- 4.58

OT Andrew Tyshovnytsky, Fordham
6042, 317 pounds
40- 4.91-4.94
reps- 33
vertical- 28
broad jump- 9'2
3-cone- 7.99
short shuttle- 4.83

OT Chris Campbell, Eastern Illinois
6050, 328 pounds
40-5.21-5.29
reps- 14
vertical- 26.5
broad jump- 8'0
3-cone- 8.08
short shuttle- 4.14

TE Scott Sicko, New Hampshire
6042, 251 pounds
40- 4.53-4.55
reps- 22
vertical- 35
broad jump- 10'2
3-cone- 6.90
short shuttle- 4.36

CB Josh Morris, Weber State
5113, 186 pounds
40- 4.51-4.55
reps- 10
vertical- 39.5
broad jump- 10'7

WR Thomas Harris, Alabama A&M
6000, 175 pounds
40- 4.47-4.51
reps- 10
vertical- 39

RB J.T. Rogan, San Diego
5097, 202 pounds
40- 4.54-4.55
reps- 13
vertical- 36
broad jump- 9'3
3-cone- 6.71
short shuttle- 4.13

RB Tony Nelson, UMASS
5091, 208 pounds
40- 4.55-4.57
reps- 17
vertical- 36
broad jump- 10'4
3-cone- 6.62
short shuttle- 4.33

DT Kyle Harrington, UMASS
6036, 287 pounds
40- 4.93-4.95
reps- 40
vertical- 27.5
broad jump- 8'9
3-cone- 7.23
short shuttle- 4.40

WR Victor Cruz, UMASS
5114, 208 pounds
40- 4.48-4.50
reps- 13
vertical- 41.5
broad jump- 10'5
short shuttle- 4.33

CB Gabriel Derricks, San Diego
6011, 192 pounds
40- 4.68-4.70
reps- 14
vertical- 31
broad jump- 9'4
3-cone- 7.55
short shuttle- 4.40

Harrington is now forcing everyone to go back and evaluate his tape. Now a solid PFA.

Karim is moving up the board but to be honest should not be because anyone who watched him is not shocked at those numbers. I have him in the 4th-6th round range.

Stoudamire might have solidified a draft grade. I would say he is a 6th-7th round projection right now.

Scott Sicko's numbers are not verified yet but if those hold up he could get selected in the 5th-7th round.

Victor Cruz had a solid workout.

Gabe Derricks is too slow for CB and likely moving to safety.

Nelson, Rogan, Harris, and Morris all have a major flag either in terms of medical, lack of bulk, etc. but all had good workouts and should be solid PFAs.

The Fordham OT is a sleeper. Don't be surprised if he is selected in the late rounds.

Karim's previous knee surgery might hold him back a little.

[SmallCollegeFBFan]

Finally this website is showing up so therefore I am taking down this post on AGS and putting all of the info here. Hope you guys enjoy!

RB Deji Karim, Southern Illinois
5086, 209 pounds
40- 4.37-4.40
reps- 19
vertical- 43
broad jump- 10'3
3-cone- 6.67
short shuttle- 4.05

CB Patrick Stoudamire, Western Illinois
5102, 205 pounds
40- 4.45-4.46
reps- 11
broad jump- 9'11
3-cone- 6.67
short shuttle- 3.98

DE James Ruffin, Northern Iowa
6034, 264 pounds
40- 4.75-4.78
reps- 27
vertical- 31
broad jump- 9'5
3-cone- 7.21
short shuttle- 4.58

OT Andrew Tyshovnytsky, Fordham
6042, 317 pounds
40- 4.91-4.94
reps- 33
vertical- 28
broad jump- 9'2
3-cone- 7.99
short shuttle- 4.83

OT Chris Campbell, Eastern Illinois
6050, 328 pounds
40-5.21-5.29
reps- 14
vertical- 26.5
broad jump- 8'0
3-cone- 8.08
short shuttle- 4.14

TE Scott Sicko, New Hampshire
6042, 251 pounds
40- 4.53-4.55
reps- 22
vertical- 35
broad jump- 10'2
3-cone- 6.90
short shuttle- 4.36

CB Josh Morris, Weber State
5113, 186 pounds
40- 4.51-4.55
reps- 10
vertical- 39.5
broad jump- 10'7

WR Thomas Harris, Alabama A&M
6000, 175 pounds
40- 4.47-4.51
reps- 10
vertical- 39

RB J.T. Rogan, San Diego
5097, 202 pounds
40- 4.54-4.55
reps- 13
vertical- 36
broad jump- 9'3
3-cone- 6.71
short shuttle- 4.13

RB Tony Nelson, UMASS
5091, 208 pounds
40- 4.55-4.57
reps- 17
vertical- 36
broad jump- 10'4
3-cone- 6.62
short shuttle- 4.33

DT Kyle Harrington, UMASS
6036, 287 pounds
40- 4.93-4.95
reps- 40
vertical- 27.5
broad jump- 8'9
3-cone- 7.23
short shuttle- 4.40

WR Victor Cruz, UMASS
5114, 208 pounds
40- 4.48-4.50
reps- 13
vertical- 41.5
broad jump- 10'5
short shuttle- 4.33

CB Gabriel Derricks, San Diego
6011, 192 pounds
40- 4.68-4.70
reps- 14
vertical- 31
broad jump- 9'4
3-cone- 7.55
short shuttle- 4.40

Harrington is now forcing everyone to go back and evaluate his tape. Now a solid PFA.

Karim is moving up the board but to be honest should not be because anyone who watched him is not shocked at those numbers. I have him in the 4th-6th round range.

Stoudamire might have solidified a draft grade. I would say he is a 6th-7th round projection right now.

Scott Sicko's numbers are not verified yet but if those hold up he could get selected in the 5th-7th round.

Victor Cruz had a solid workout.

Gabe Derricks is too slow for CB and likely moving to safety.

Nelson, Rogan, Harris, and Morris all have a major flag either in terms of medical, lack of bulk, etc. but all had good workouts and should be solid PFAs.

The Fordham OT is a sleeper. Don't be surprised if he is selected in the late rounds.

Karim's previous knee surgery might hold him back a little.

As far as I know his knee is fine and by his pro day results it looks like that knee is 100%.

[houndawg]

Karim's previous knee surgery might hold him back a little.

As far as I know his knee is fine and by his pro day results it looks like that knee is 100%.

I meant hold him back in the minds of the scouts; he wasn't invited to the combines but his numbers put him among the best backs that were invited, including the best vertical. I just figured it has to be his knee because he isn't a character problem.

[houndawg]

Scott Sicko.....that might be the greatest name EVER.

Unless he has a brother named Izzy.

[houndawg]

I heard Chad Kackert of New Hampshire ran a rediculous 40 at their pro day. Any word on his #s?

He could be a sleeper. In the playoff game with SIU two seasons ago he didn't put up much for numbers, but I remember thinking that he had a very quick start. he reminded me of an old 49ers RB named Paul Hofer.

[EQguy]

Word I have heard is that Danny Batten was trying to get into Arizona State's Pro Day. Any word on if that happened or not.

[SmallCollegeFBFan]

I see you got your old name back!

Yes! Finally!

[SmallCollegeFBFan]

Word I have heard is that Danny Batten was trying to get into Arizona State's Pro Day. Any word on if that happened or not.

ASU okayed it but the Pac-10 did not so he will not be there.

[SmallCollegeFBFan]

According to the National Strength and Conditioning Association (NSCA), the #1 best draft indicator is...



Vertical leap.

Just thought I would throw that out there.

Not arguing with you but if that is the case then Donald Jones and Deji Karim are going to have the best careers of any of the small schoolers.

[SmallCollegeFBFan]

As far as I know his knee is fine and by his pro day results it looks like that knee is 100%.

I meant hold him back in the minds of the scouts; he wasn't invited to the combines but his numbers put him among the best backs that were invited, including the best vertical. I just figured it has to be his knee because he isn't a character problem.

His knee was not the reason. I know a lot of scouts went in early and gave him free agent grades and did not look at his later tape. The saw his numbers late in the year were good but did not see his best games. This pro day performance is forcing them to go back and look and perhaps give him a 4th-6th round grade, which is where I had him at already. His height is holding them back more than his knee. Although when someone says he is short I tell them to go look at all the 5'8'-5'10 RBs on the pro bowl rosters this year and it will show you that perhaps the best RBs are 5'8'-5'10 and not 5'11-plus.

[houndawg]

I meant hold him back in the minds of the scouts; he wasn't invited to the combines but his numbers put him among the best backs that were invited, including the best vertical. I just figured it has to be his knee because he isn't a character problem.

His knee was not the reason. I know a lot of scouts went in early and gave him free agent grades and did not look at his later tape. The saw his numbers late in the year were good but did not see his best games. This pro day performance is forcing them to go back and look and perhaps give him a 4th-6th round grade, which is where I had him at already. His height is holding them back more than his knee. Although when someone says he is short I tell them to go look at all the 5'8'-5'10 RBs on the pro bowl rosters this year and it will show you that perhaps the best RBs are 5'8'-5'10 and not 5'11-plus.

I think the lower the center of gravity for running the ball, not so much for blocking or seeing the field. I think you take 4.37 where you find it, though..

[houndawg]

Finally this website is showing up so therefore I am taking down this post on AGS and putting all of the info here. Hope you guys enjoy!

RB Deji Karim, Southern Illinois
5086, 209 pounds
40- 4.37-4.40
reps- 19
vertical- 43
broad jump- 10'3
3-cone- 6.67
short shuttle- 4.05

CB Patrick Stoudamire, Western Illinois
5102, 205 pounds
40- 4.45-4.46
reps- 11
broad jump- 9'11
3-cone- 6.67
short shuttle- 3.98

DE James Ruffin, Northern Iowa
6034, 264 pounds
40- 4.75-4.78
reps- 27
vertical- 31
broad jump- 9'5
3-cone- 7.21
short shuttle- 4.58

OT Andrew Tyshovnytsky, Fordham
6042, 317 pounds
40- 4.91-4.94
reps- 33
vertical- 28
broad jump- 9'2
3-cone- 7.99
short shuttle- 4.83

OT Chris Campbell, Eastern Illinois
6050, 328 pounds
40-5.21-5.29
reps- 14
vertical- 26.5
broad jump- 8'0
3-cone- 8.08
short shuttle- 4.14

TE Scott Sicko, New Hampshire
6042, 251 pounds
40- 4.53-4.55
reps- 22
vertical- 35
broad jump- 10'2
3-cone- 6.90
short shuttle- 4.36

CB Josh Morris, Weber State
5113, 186 pounds
40- 4.51-4.55
reps- 10
vertical- 39.5
broad jump- 10'7

WR Thomas Harris, Alabama A&M
6000, 175 pounds
40- 4.47-4.51
reps- 10
vertical- 39

RB J.T. Rogan, San Diego
5097, 202 pounds
40- 4.54-4.55
reps- 13
vertical- 36
broad jump- 9'3
3-cone- 6.71
short shuttle- 4.13

RB Tony Nelson, UMASS
5091, 208 pounds
40- 4.55-4.57
reps- 17
vertical- 36
broad jump- 10'4
3-cone- 6.62
short shuttle- 4.33

DT Kyle Harrington, UMASS
6036, 287 pounds
40- 4.93-4.95
reps- 40
vertical- 27.5
broad jump- 8'9
3-cone- 7.23
short shuttle- 4.40

WR Victor Cruz, UMASS
5114, 208 pounds
40- 4.48-4.50
reps- 13
vertical- 41.5
broad jump- 10'5
short shuttle- 4.33

CB Gabriel Derricks, San Diego
6011, 192 pounds
40- 4.68-4.70
reps- 14
vertical- 31
broad jump- 9'4
3-cone- 7.55
short shuttle- 4.40

Harrington is now forcing everyone to go back and evaluate his tape. Now a solid PFA.

Karim is moving up the board but to be honest should not be because anyone who watched him is not shocked at those numbers. I have him in the 4th-6th round range.

Stoudamire might have solidified a draft grade. I would say he is a 6th-7th round projection right now.

Scott Sicko's numbers are not verified yet but if those hold up he could get selected in the 5th-7th round.

Victor Cruz had a solid workout.

Gabe Derricks is too slow for CB and likely moving to safety.

Nelson, Rogan, Harris, and Morris all have a major flag either in terms of medical, lack of bulk, etc. but all had good workouts and should be solid PFAs.

The Fordham OT is a sleeper. Don't be surprised if he is selected in the late rounds.

UNH's TE is as fast as Weber State's CB.

[BDKJMU]

SCFB: are these 40 times handheld or electronic? Big difference.

[AggieFinn]

Some numbers from the Aggies:

WR Bakari Grant: 4.58 in the 40
C Tommy Hernandez: 29 reps
CB Kenny Brown 43.5 inch vertical, 4.46 in the 40.

That's all we got right now.