Texas needs to go ahead and secede

[houndawg]

Texas is the most backwoods state in the country. And I've lived in South Carolina and Georgia.

I've lived in Louisiana, and you're still right.

[ATrain]

In my first post I stated that the conservative state of Texas was ran better than most other states.

Nobody commented on that, they did comment on:

NCLB
Hurricanes
Fort Sumter
Transportation funds
Hussein Obama
Approval ratings
Parenting
and Rap

So I will take it as a win.

Virginia, which has been under Democratic leadership for the past 8 years with a mostly Republican legislature (not sure when Dems got control of the State senate), is the #1 managed state and #1 for business in rankings by Forbes and CNBC. (Texas being #2 in that last category). In 2007, kids born in Virginia were more likely to be successful than any other state in the country (not sure if rankings have been re-done since then).

You lose.

[Col Hogan]

Its budget is in way better shape than any blue state. (Better run)

Its no Montana of course, because we have a balanced budget amendment.

So do 48 other states...your point???

Although the National Conference of State Legislatures (NCSL) traditionally says that 49 states must balance their budgets, it would be more precise to say that 49 states have at least a limited statutory or constitutional requirement of a balanced budget.

http://www.ncsl.org/?TabId=12651" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[native]

Texas is the most backwoods state in the country. And I've lived in South Carolina and Georgia.

I've lived in Louisiana, and you're still right.

Things work in Texas, but often do not work in Louisiana, especially not without a little bribe or special favor.

Texas roads are the best in the nation, even better than the surrounding states with similar oil & gas wealth to support the roads.

The drivers are better, too. As far as I know its the only state where they are actually taught to pull over for faster traffic and not block the left lane.

[BDKJMU]

The #1 probelm with the education system is parenting. Isn't the greatest spending/student in the poorest districts?

That being said, I have no problem with teaching about the conservative movement of the 1980's and 1990's or for that matter the 2000's. Kids need to know how we ended up in here.

You left off the 1970s with that peanut farmer..

[BDKJMU]

Obama was already a complete flop six months ago, skelly. If you don't think he's a flop now, what the hell are you waiting for?

There's a long way to go. We're still in the second quarter.

Though, do let me know if Obama drops to 22% approval rating like your boy, GWB.

Uh, Bush left office with a 34% job approval according to Gallup. Yeah, thats bad, but Obama is well on his way. He's in the 40s....

[Skjellyfetti]

There's a long way to go. We're still in the second quarter.

Though, do let me know if Obama drops to 22% approval rating like your boy, GWB.

Uh, Bush left office with a 34% job approval according to Gallup. Yeah, thats bad, but Obama is well on his way. He's in the 40s....

Bush's low was 25% in Gallup. You really want to argue 3% points? I don't remember offhand who did the poll where he got as low as 22%... but, Obama has a LONG way to go before he's in the 20's.

He's at 48.8% on realclearpolitics's. That's an average approval rating for a president. Nothing spectacular. But nothing dismal either.

And, he's flatlined for about 6 months........ His approval ratings took a pretty big dip from June to August... but, since then they've been very flat... and I think more realistic.

[houndawg]

Anybody notice which President finished his gig with the highest approval rating?

[houndawg]

I've lived in Louisiana, and you're still right.

Things work in Texas, but often do not work in Louisiana, especially not without a little bribe or special favor.

Texas roads are the best in the nation, even better than the surrounding states with similar oil & gas wealth to support the roads.

The drivers are better, too. As far as I know its the only state where they are actually taught to pull over for faster traffic and not block the left lane.

Texas has the most polluted city in the US and the Gulf Coast stinks to high heaven. Texas drivers are clueless in bad weather.

[youngterrier]

Anybody notice which President finished his gig with the highest approval rating?

Clinton-65%

[BDKJMU]

Good for Texas, more people in this country need to follow their lead anyway. That state is a perfect example of conservatives running a state in a more fiscally responsible manner.

Libs got a hold of California and all those *****y east coast states (NY) and just look at those upside down in the red bast*rds.

Dont even get me started on what the left has done to the public education system, national curriculum my ass
we need individual states to take care of their own the government proves time and time again they cant do it in anyway shape or form.

Take care of their own guvmint?

Texas is a leech state, Allie, they can't exist without Federal handouts.

That's why every time it rains in Texas, the Governor declares a disaster (#1 in disaster declarations, #49 in education spending per pupil) and starts sucking money from the evil Federal Government. Texas is not independent, they are the "special needs" child of the 50 states.

Clearly you are living proof that our public education system has failed miserably, Alice, but it wasn't always that way. That's why your elders here are so much smarter than you are.

Obviously Houndog you just pulled that TX is #49 in education spending out of your arse. TX with the latest data available (most recent on the census website is 07') is 44th in per pupil spending.
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/ ... per-pupil/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As far as TX being #1 in the nation in disaster declarations, what you conveniently failed to mention would be that that would be by the # of counties having a disaster declaration in a given year. Well, no shit sherlock, considering that Texas is the 2nd biggest state in the nation next to Alaska with the most # of counties, (254) and has the #2 population next to CA. You got any more brilliant observations, like the sky is blue during the day, or its dark out at nighttime.
http://www.marketskeptics.com/2009/12/s ... aster.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[BDKJMU]

As far as the most backward state, that would be WV.

[ATrain]

As far as the most backward state, that would be WV.

+1

[houndawg]

Take care of their own guvmint?

Texas is a leech state, Allie, they can't exist without Federal handouts.

That's why every time it rains in Texas, the Governor declares a disaster (#1 in disaster declarations, #49 in education spending per pupil) and starts sucking money from the evil Federal Government. Texas is not independent, they are the "special needs" child of the 50 states.

Clearly you are living proof that our public education system has failed miserably, Alice, but it wasn't always that way. That's why your elders here are so much smarter than you are.

Obviously Houndog you just pulled that TX is #49 in education spending out of your arse. TX with the latest data available (most recent on the census website is 07') is 44th in per pupil spending.
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/ ... per-pupil/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As far as TX being #1 in the nation in disaster declarations, what you conveniently failed to mention would be that that would be by the # of counties having a disaster declaration in a given year. Well, no **** sherlock, considering that Texas is the 2nd biggest state in the nation next to Alaska with the most # of counties, (254) and has the #2 population next to CA. You got any more brilliant observations, like the sky is blue during the day, or its dark out at nighttime.
http://www.marketskeptics.com/2009/12/s ... aster.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah, I pulled it out of my ass, but hell, most of the time nobody's checking. You're right, 44th it is.

You missed it bubba, as usual, disasters get declared when the local (state) resources are overwhelmed, which takes about an inch of rain because of lack of funding. Thanks for playing, our staff has some nice consolation prizes for you.

[BDKJMU]

Obviously Houndog you just pulled that TX is #49 in education spending out of your arse. TX with the latest data available (most recent on the census website is 07') is 44th in per pupil spending.
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/ ... per-pupil/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As far as TX being #1 in the nation in disaster declarations, what you conveniently failed to mention would be that that would be by the # of counties having a disaster declaration in a given year. Well, no **** sherlock, considering that Texas is the 2nd biggest state in the nation next to Alaska with the most # of counties, (254) and has the #2 population next to CA. You got any more brilliant observations, like the sky is blue during the day, or its dark out at nighttime.
http://www.marketskeptics.com/2009/12/s ... aster.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah, I pulled it out of my ass, but hell, most of the time nobody's checking. You're right, 44th it is.

You missed it bubba, as usual, disasters get declared when the local (state) resources are overwhelmed, which takes about an inch of rain because of lack of funding. Thanks for playing, our staff has some nice consolation prizes for you.

I didn't miss jack squat. News flash for you: TX has a LOWER % of its counties with disaster declarations in any given year than a lot of other states. So TX local/state resources are just as good or better than a lot of other states.

So you got a link for your one inch of rain claim? I don't think so. I lived in TX for a couple of years 00'-02' and never heard of county having a disaster declared because of an inch of rain (or 2 or 3). Certainly not either of the ones I lived in or a 3rd I worked in. Guess you're just pulling that one out of your arse as per your usual MO.

[Col Hogan]

Yeah, I pulled it out of my ass, but hell, most of the time nobody's checking. You're right, 44th it is.

You missed it bubba, as usual, disasters get declared when the local (state) resources are overwhelmed, which takes about an inch of rain because of lack of funding. Thanks for playing, our staff has some nice consolation prizes for you.

I didn't miss jack squat. News flash for you: TX has a LOWER % of its counties with disaster declarations in any given year than a lot of other states. So TX local/state resources are just as good or better than a lot of other states.

So you got a link for your one inch of rain claim? I don't think so. I lived in TX for a couple of years 00'-02' and never heard of county having a disaster declared because of an inch of rain (or 2 or 3). Certainly not either of the ones I lived in or a 3rd I worked in. Guess you're just pulling that one out of your arse as per your usual MO.

He must have quite a big arse because that was a huge one he pulled about disaster declarations...

I worked with the Texas Department of Emergency Management from 99 to 02...the Emergency Operations Center was opened rarely...once during a hurricane...once during the tropical storm that flooded Houston...

I don't really like Texas, and usually won't defend it...but that was one whopper, 'dawg

[BDKJMU]

Uh, Bush left office with a 34% job approval according to Gallup. Yeah, thats bad, but Obama is well on his way. He's in the 40s....

Bush's low was 25% in Gallup. You really want to argue 3% points? I don't remember offhand who did the poll where he got as low as 22%... but, Obama has a LONG way to go before he's in the 20's.

He's at 48.8% on realclearpolitics's. That's an average approval rating for a president. Nothing spectacular. But nothing dismal either.

And, he's flatlined for about 6 months........ His approval ratings took a pretty big dip from June to August... but, since then they've been very flat... and I think more realistic.

Ist you said 22%. Then you upped it to 25%. You want to keep pulling #s out of your arse?
Bush was at 34% in Gallup when he left office:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113770/bush- ... roval.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So I will argue 12 points (you said 22 when it was 34).

[native]

Bush's low was 25% in Gallup. You really want to argue 3% points? I don't remember offhand who did the poll where he got as low as 22%... but, Obama has a LONG way to go before he's in the 20's.

He's at 48.8% on realclearpolitics's. That's an average approval rating for a president. Nothing spectacular. But nothing dismal either.

And, he's flatlined for about 6 months........ His approval ratings took a pretty big dip from June to August... but, since then they've been very flat... and I think more realistic.

Ist you said 22%. Then you upped it to 25%. You want to keep pulling #s out of your arse?
Bush was at 34% in Gallup when he left office:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113770/bush- ... roval.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So I will argue 12 points (you said 22 when it was 34).

Give it up, BDKJMU. Unlike others who may be well intentioned but misinformed and mistaken idealists, skelly is a dedicated ideologue with little regard for facts, unlikely to acknowledge any inconvenient truths unless he feels it tactically necessary.

[youngterrier]

Ist you said 22%. Then you upped it to 25%. You want to keep pulling #s out of your arse?
Bush was at 34% in Gallup when he left office:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113770/bush- ... roval.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So I will argue 12 points (you said 22 when it was 34).

Give it up, BDKJMU. Unlike others who may be well intentioned but misinformed and mistaken idealists, skelly is a dedicated ideologue with little regard for facts, unlikely to acknowledge any inconvenient truths unless he feels it tactically necessary.

said the pot about the kettle

[BDKJMU]

Ist you said 22%. Then you upped it to 25%. You want to keep pulling #s out of your arse?
Bush was at 34% in Gallup when he left office:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113770/bush- ... roval.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So I will argue 12 points (you said 22 when it was 34).

Give it up, BDKJMU. Unlike others who may be well intentioned but misinformed and mistaken idealists, skelly is a dedicated ideologue with little regard for facts, unlikely to acknowledge any inconvenient truths unless he feels it tactically necessary.

And to think we went to the same high school

[Skjellyfetti]

Bush's low was 25% in Gallup. You really want to argue 3% points? I don't remember offhand who did the poll where he got as low as 22%... but, Obama has a LONG way to go before he's in the 20's.

He's at 48.8% on realclearpolitics's. That's an average approval rating for a president. Nothing spectacular. But nothing dismal either.

And, he's flatlined for about 6 months........ His approval ratings took a pretty big dip from June to August... but, since then they've been very flat... and I think more realistic.

Ist you said 22%. Then you upped it to 25%. You want to keep pulling #s out of your arse?
Bush was at 34% in Gallup when he left office:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113770/bush- ... roval.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So I will argue 12 points (you said 22 when it was 34).

Let's recap.

I said Bush's lowest approval rating (not when he left office) was 22% It was:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/ ... 8399.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You decided to bring Gallup into it.

So I pointed out that his lowest in Gallup was very close to the above poll of 22%. His lowest in the Gallup was 25%:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110980/bush- ... t-yet.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


This is my post that you have such an issue with:

Though, do let me know if Obama drops to 22% approval rating like your boy, GWB.

What numbers did I pull out of my ass?

Let me know because I will either provide a source or admit I was wrong.

[BDKJMU]

Ist you said 22%. Then you upped it to 25%. You want to keep pulling #s out of your arse?
Bush was at 34% in Gallup when he left office:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113770/bush- ... roval.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So I will argue 12 points (you said 22 when it was 34).

Let's recap.

I said Bush's lowest approval rating (not when he left office) was 22% It was:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/ ... 8399.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No you simply stated:

Though, do let me know if Obama drops to 22% approval rating like your boy, GWB.

You didn't say when or what poll. You just said 22%. If you want to play that game then I could talk about Obama having a 37% approval rating. After all, on about 1/2 doz days in Jan and 10 days in Feb Rasmussen daily tracking had him between 37-39%.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... ex_history" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you're going to throw out some specific #, then you need to state what poll and when.

[Skjellyfetti]

You didn't say when or what poll. You just said 22%. If you want to play that game then I could talk about Obama having a 37% approval rating. After all, on about 1/2 doz days in Jan and 10 days in Feb Rasmussen daily tracking had him between 37-39%.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... ex_history" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you're going to throw out some specific #, then you need to state what poll and when.

I wasn't throwing out any polls... I was just stating what Bush's bottom was.

And, you should relook at that Rasmussen page. He doesn't have him between 37-39% at all. Not sure what you're looking at. But you should be looking at the "Total Approve" column... and he's not 37-39%. The lowest I see is one day at 43%.

[native]

You didn't say when or what poll. You just said 22%. If you want to play that game then I could talk about Obama having a 37% approval rating. After all, on about 1/2 doz days in Jan and 10 days in Feb Rasmussen daily tracking had him between 37-39%.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... ex_history" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you're going to throw out some specific #, then you need to state what poll and when.

I wasn't throwing out any polls... I was just stating what Bush's bottom was.

And, you should relook at that Rasmussen page. He doesn't have him between 37-39% at all. Not sure what you're looking at. But you should be looking at the "Total Approve" column... and he's not 37-39%.

Actually, a close look at Rasmussen only offers more bad news for your boy, skelly. Whether or not Obama ever hit 37% in Rasmussen's "Total Approve" column, his real ratings are far worse than the current mid-40's "Total Approve" might suggest, since his 41% "Strongly Disapprove" is 14 points higher than his lowly 27% "Strongly Approve."

Obamacare is in far worse shape than it's mid-40's approval rating for the same reason. The 41% who strongly oppose the plan are more than double the 20% who strongly support it. This leads Rasmussen to ask whether national Democrats are "...on a kamikaze mission to pass their health care reform plan and destroy themselves at the polls in November?... "

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... _key_polls" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[youngterrier]

Does it really matter if it was 22% or 25%?