Patriotism... the last refuge of the scoundrel

[native]

How many events have you successfully organized for charity, dawg? What was your overhead?

When did you surpass Hannity''s $1.7 to vets and their families?

Organized? None. Participated in for twelve years while in the band bidniz? A shitload. None of them had anywhere near 97% overhead.

Go fcvk your fist, punk.

[houndawg]

A charity is not legit in my book unless at least 75% of a charity's income is going to their charitable cause.

3.6% is a complete scam.

Naw, I am not defending 3.6%, and I don't like Hannity, I just think you jokesters are full of it.

My rule of thumb for CFC or any other charity is 10% for administrative costs, but I also recognize that the figures can be manipulated, so I also look at what is accomplished and who does the work.

Defending Hannity is exactly what you're doing, you lying sack of shit.

You're such a weasel.

[native]

Naw, I am not defending 3.6%, and I don't like Hannity, I just think you jokesters are full of it.

My rule of thumb for CFC or any other charity is 10% for administrative costs, but I also recognize that the figures can be manipulated, so I also look at what is accomplished and who does the work.

Defending Hannity is exactly what you're doing, you lying sack of ****.

You're such a weasel.

EDIT: Let's see where the chips fall. Conservatives can do a lot better than Hannity. I don't mind cuttin' him loose. But I don't mind tweaking you guys since that's all you do with me most of the time.

[houndawg]

Defending Hannity is exactly what you're doing, you lying sack of ****.

You're such a weasel.

From your lips to my lily-white azz.

Howzit taste, son?

[native]

From your lips to my lily-white azz.

Howzit taste, son?

Looks like someone needs a good spanking.

[dbackjon]

From your lips to my lily-white azz.

Howzit taste, son?

Looks like someone needs a good spanking.

I think I have seen this dialague somewhere else before - probably one of my gay porn tapes...

[native]

Looks like someone needs a good spanking.

I think I have seen this dialague somewhere else before - probably one of my gay porn tapes...

I hope you didn't have to pay too much for the tape.

[Benne]

Looks like someone needs a good spanking.

I think I have seen this dialague somewhere else before - probably one of my gay porn tapes...

HOLY SH!T



















You still have a VCR?

[blueballs]

Interesting... nowhere in any of this did I see anything identifying Hannity as a primary shareholder, registered agent, or an officer of the corporation... am I missing something or is he just a celebrity spokesperson?

[dbackjon]

Interesting... nowhere in any of this did I see anything identifying Hannity as a primary shareholder, registered agent, or an officer of the corporation... am I missing something or is he just a celebrity spokesperson?

Well, going to their website, first thing you see is his mug

https://freedomconcerts.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Their response:

http://www.freedomalliance.org/images/p ... sponse.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(note, pdf, so I can't quote it here)

[dbackjon]

Founded by Ollie North - probably uses the money to sell arms to Iran to fund rebels in Venezuela or something.

[houndawg]

Founded by Ollie North - probably uses the money to sell arms to Iran to fund rebels in Venezuela or something.

It's probably cocaine money. Take in 48 million since '03, and paid out less than 2 million, and Ollie North is involved? You can bet that some black money is being laundered.

[native]

Interesting... nowhere in any of this did I see anything identifying Hannity as a primary shareholder, registered agent, or an officer of the corporation... am I missing something or is he just a celebrity spokesperson?

Well, going to their website, first thing you see is his mug

https://freedomconcerts.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Their response:

http://www.freedomalliance.org/images/p ... sponse.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(note, pdf, so I can't quote it here)

EDIT: Nice job, jonboy! Good on ya!

From the pdf file referenced by Jon:

"...Listed below are the amounts that Freedom Alliance spent for each of the past three years and the categories on which they were spent. The figures are taken from our Federal Form 990 which is filed with the Internal Revenue Service and posted on our web site and audited by an independent auditor using Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. This financial record not only meets, but exceeds standards of program efficiency set by most charity evaluators.

In 2008, Freedom Alliance spent a total of $6,745,717. Of that:
79 percent ($5,317,970) was spent on Program Activities•
14 percent ($945,950) was spent on Fundraising•
7 percent ($481,797) was spent on Management • ..."

The filing shows similar performance figures for 2007 and 2006.

Bend over, dawg, and take it like a man.

[blueballs]

Interesting... nowhere in any of this did I see anything identifying Hannity as a primary shareholder, registered agent, or an officer of the corporation... am I missing something or is he just a celebrity spokesperson?

Well, going to their website, first thing you see is his mug

https://freedomconcerts.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Their response:

http://www.freedomalliance.org/images/p ... sponse.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(note, pdf, so I can't quote it here)

Thanks Jon... just as I thought, he is a celebrity spokesperson and donor- not an officer, shareholder, or agent of the coporation.

Their response is pretty good though.... pretty much blows holes in the blog- which now looks like a personal vendetta.

[danefan]

I admit that I skimmed the 990s rather quickly, but the figures they indicate in their response appears to me to be a spin (or the other way around if you want - the blog may be spinning). The question of what consituttes "Program Activities" is at the heart of the issue.

When I have some time I'll take a closer look at the 990s which IMO, do hold the answer here.

[native]

I admit that I skimmed the 990s rather quickly, but the figures they indicate in their response appears to me to be a spin (or the other way around if you want - the blog may be spinning). The question of what consituttes "Program Activities" is at the heart of the issue.

When I have some time I'll take a closer look at the 990s which IMO, do hold the answer here.

My honest guess is that both sides are spinning and parsing words. I look forward to your analysis, danefan.

[houndawg]

Well, going to their website, first thing you see is his mug

https://freedomconcerts.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Their response:

http://www.freedomalliance.org/images/p ... sponse.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(note, pdf, so I can't quote it here)

EDIT: Nice job, jonboy! Good on ya!

From the pdf file referenced by Jon:

"...Listed below are the amounts that Freedom Alliance spent for each of the past three years and the categories on which they were spent. The figures are taken from our Federal Form 990 which is filed with the Internal Revenue Service and posted on our web site and audited by an independent auditor using Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. This financial record not only meets, but exceeds standards of program efficiency set by most charity evaluators.

In 2008, Freedom Alliance spent a total of $6,745,717. Of that:
79 percent ($5,317,970) was spent on Program Activities•
14 percent ($945,950) was spent on Fundraising•
7 percent ($481,797) was spent on Management • ..."

The filing shows similar performance figures for 2007 and 2006.

Bend over, dawg, and take it like a man.

96% overhead and Gulfstreams, limos, and hotel suites for Hannity's entourage? I don't think so, kid. If he weren't a Republican we'd be hearing (yet again) about your lifelong battle against communism. And how you earned your government subsidy.

[Chizzang]

Their response is pretty good though.... pretty much blows holes in the blog- which now looks like a personal vendetta.

Yeah.. no big deal
He just uses the millions of dollars to
1) Promote Himself (The great American) and his books
2) Fly around in a Gulfstream
3) Pay for all his advertisement distribution
4) Dine and stay at 5 star resorts

Of course he's smart enough to not be on the paperwork... he just spends the money
Pure Capitalism combined with Patriotism 100% success
I mean really: Who cares about dead soldiers wives..?

He spends a lot of time telling people how hard he works too... you and him have a lot in common

[native]

...If he weren't a Republican we'd be hearing (yet again) about your lifelong battle against communism. ...

If all you American commie wannabes and fellow travelers could just move to Cuba and Venezuela for a decade it would do absolute WONDERS for the economies and politics of all three nations and the freedoms of millions of people.

[houndawg]

Their response is pretty good though.... pretty much blows holes in the blog- which now looks like a personal vendetta.

Yeah.. no big deal
He just uses the millions of dollars to
1) Promote Himself (The great American) and his books
2) Fly around in a Gulfstream
3) Pay for all his advertisement distribution
4) Dine and stay at 5 star resorts

Of course he's smart enough to not be on the paperwork... he just spends the money
Pure Capitalism combined with Patriotism 100% success
I mean really: Who cares about dead soldiers wives..?

He spends a lot of time telling people how hard he works too... you and him have a lot in common

$48,000,000 in, less than $2,000,000 out to vets and their dependents. That's the whole sordid tale.

[native]

Yeah.. no big deal
He just uses the millions of dollars to
1) Promote Himself (The great American) and his books
2) Fly around in a Gulfstream
3) Pay for all his advertisement distribution
4) Dine and stay at 5 star resorts

Of course he's smart enough to not be on the paperwork... he just spends the money
Pure Capitalism combined with Patriotism 100% success
I mean really: Who cares about dead soldiers wives..?

He spends a lot of time telling people how hard he works too... you and him have a lot in common

$48,000,000 in, less than $2,000,000 out to vets and their dependents. That's the whole sordid tale.

Maybe it is, and maybe it isn't. I'm waiting for danefan's report. ...Not that I don't really trust you sad-sacks, but ... I don't really trust you sad-sacks...

[houndawg]

Why do you hate our troops?


$48,000,000 in, less than $2,000,000 out to vets and their dependents. That's the whole sordid tale.

Maybe it is, and maybe it isn't. I'm waiting for danefan's report. ...Not that I don't really trust you sad-sacks, but ... I don't really trust you sad-sacks...

[houndawg]

Maybe it is, and maybe it isn't. I'm waiting for danefan's report. ...Not that I don't really trust you sad-sacks, but ... I don't really trust you sad-sacks...

Why do you hate our troops, nathan?

[native]

Why do you hate our troops, nathan?

I trust the A-J squared-away troopers, dawg. I just don't trust the sad-sack slackers.

Say it quickly three times.

[Chizzang]

Why do you hate our troops, nathan?

I trust the A-J squared-away troopers, dawg. I just don't trust the sad-sack slackers.

Say it quickly three times.

The key is:
I don't really care - he didn't steal anything from me - and there's nothing I can do either way...
It's all in good fun

I mean Rush committed a class A felony and "paid" to walk free and nobody cared
seriously:
Glenn Beck willingly converted to Mormonism - that's like getting on the titanic after it hit the iceberg...


I mean if you can't laugh at these total dumb asses - what's left..?