Americans now view Healthcare Bill favorably:

[89Hen]

Eh, whatever. It makes sense to me. I don't give a shit about a poll done a few days before the bill was signed. I care a lot more about ones done AFTER. Both are equally credible though.

Make up your mind man.

[Skjellyfetti]

Credibility = accurately reflects what the poll was intended to

In the case of Rasmussen's... likely voters before the bill was signed

In the case of Gallup's... registered voters after the bill was signed

Both polls reflected what they were intended to reflect. They were both credible, imo.

I care far more about a polls done after the bill is signed (and less about the Gallup one in this thread than ones that will come out early next week).

[89Hen]

Credibility = accurately reflects what the poll was intended to

You believe that's the definition of credibility?

[Skjellyfetti]

Credibility = accurately reflects what the poll was intended to

You believe that's the definition of credibility?

It's not a definition. Just showing what a credible poll is supposed to do.

Probably should have worded it "A credible poll accurately reflects what the poll was intended to"

[89Hen]

You believe that's the definition of credibility?

It's not a definition. Just showing what a credible poll is supposed to do.

Probably should have worded it "A credible poll accurately reflects what the poll was intended to"

I disagree. By your definition, a poll that is worded to illicit a certain response and therefore shows what it was intended to, would be a credible poll.

[native]

It's not a definition. Just showing what a credible poll is supposed to do.

Probably should have worded it "A credible poll accurately reflects what the poll was intended to"

I disagree. By your definition, a poll that is worded to illicit a certain response and therefore shows what it was intended to, would be a credible poll.

That's how "progressives" win. They spin better than we conks spin because they are more willing to prevaricate and be deceitful.

[89Hen]

That's how "progressives" win. They spin better than we conks spin because they are more willing to prevaricate and be deceitful.

I don't know about that. Both sides spin so much, who can tell who's ahead in that department?

[houndawg]

I disagree. By your definition, a poll that is worded to illicit a certain response and therefore shows what it was intended to, would be a credible poll.

That's how "progressives" win. They spin better than we conks spin because they are more willing to prevaricate and be deceitful.

WMD.


Game Over.

[Baldy]

That's how "progressives" win. They spin better than we conks spin because they are more willing to prevaricate and be deceitful.

WMD.


Game Over.

Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Robert Byrd, Barbara Boxer, Tom Daschle, John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Jim Jeffords, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Henry Waxman, John Rockefeller, etc. etc. etc. etc...all deceitful.

[Chizzang]

WMD.


Game Over.

Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Robert Byrd, Barbara Boxer, Tom Daschle, John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Jim Jeffords, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Henry Waxman, John Rockefeller, etc. etc. etc. etc...all deceitful.

Are we talking about politicians here..?
Because the idiotic notion that a Republican or a Democrat might have a shred more honesty to one vs. the other is so ridiculous it requires a level of denial so HUGE that by even starting the debate you acknowledge you're short a few bricks...

They're basically all criminals - the whole lot of them

[houndawg]

WMD.


Game Over.

Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Robert Byrd, Barbara Boxer, Tom Daschle, John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Jim Jeffords, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Henry Waxman, John Rockefeller, etc. etc. etc. etc...all deceitful.

No arguement from me. But all of them together can't top WMD and 45 minutes to a mushroom cloud.

[FargoBison]

CBS poll....

The poll finds that 62 percent want Congressional Republicans to keep challenging the bill, while 33 percent say they should not do so. Nearly nine in ten Republicans and two in three independents want the GOP to keep challenging. Even 41 percent of Democrats support continued challenges.

Americans are split about the fact that the bill largely lacked bipartisan support. Fifty percent said they were disappointed that the bill did not have support from both parties, while 44 percent said that it doesn't matter.

Most see the bill as an important achievement for the president. Fifty-two percent called passage a major accomplishment for Mr. Obama, up from 46 percent before Sunday's vote. Thirteen percent called it a minor accomplishment, and 32 percent said passage was not an accomplishment.

For the new poll, CBS News re-interviewed 649 adults interviewed just before the House vote in a CBS News poll conducted March 18-21. The findings suggest an improvement in perceptions of the legislation: While 37 percent approved of it before the vote, 42 percent approved afterward.

Still, there was significant disapproval for the bill. Forty-six percent say they disapprove, including 32 percent who strongly disapprove. Those numbers have barely moved since before the bill was signed.

Americans also did not significantly change their views on the impact of the bill. Thirty percent still say it will make the health care system better, while 33 percent say it will make the system worse.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162- ... 03544.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Skjellyfetti]

Well, I would respond "Yes" in that poll as well. Any law that is questionable constitutionally should be challenged.

I think it's good for the country and constitutional, but there's nothing wrong with letting the courts decide for sure.

edit: and before some dork goes and brings up my post calling it frivolous... that was a joke.

[houndawg]

Most of you are too young to remember when Reagan assured us that Medicare was the end of western civilization as we know it.

[89Hen]

CBS poll....

Not as rosy as some of the Dems painted earlier in the week.

[Skjellyfetti]

CBS poll....

This is a really interesting poll because it follows the same sample before the vote and after the vote. It found a pretty decent swing towards support for the health care bill.

Still, it won't be until early next week that we have a better idea where we stand.

[native]

Now that Obama has signed the bill, Rasmussen reports that 55% favor repeal! (An increase from the mere 54% opposed to the bill prior to passage).

"...52% say they’d vote for a candidate who favors repeal over one who does not. Forty-one percent (41%) would cast their vote for someone who opposes repeal...."

"...Among those not affiliated with either major party, 59% favor repeal, and 35% are against it...."

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... _care_bill" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What the heck are you smokin' skelly?!???

[AZGrizFan]

Now that Obama has signed the bill, Rasmussen reports that 55% favor repeal! (An increase from the mere 54% opposed to the bill prior to passage).

"...52% say they’d vote for a candidate who favors repeal over one who does not. Forty-one percent (41%) would cast their vote for someone who opposes repeal...."

"...Among those not affiliated with either major party, 59% favor repeal, and 35% are against it...."

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... _care_bill" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What the heck are you smokin' skelly?!???

Rasmussen polls don't have validity, do they KY?

[grizzaholic]

[Wedgebuster]

[grizzaholic]

Glad you liked it.

[houndawg]

Glad you liked it.

Now were getting some truth.........

[Chizzang]

That's how "progressives" win. They spin better than we conks spin because they are more willing to prevaricate and be deceitful.

You can say this with a straight face...

How soon we forget the previous administrations 8 years of constant deceit and SPIN (wow)

[ASUMountaineer]

Very nice.

[D1B]

The fact you guys have to try and sell this so hard says volumes..........

Yeah, that fucks like you are stupid and need repeated explanation.