How the GOP Purged Me

[houndawg]

That's an interesting point. Which side of the political spectrum would you place the "planners?" The "live for the nows?"

Well, I have my own opinions, but I am sure I could argue them all day with an equal number of people who have a different one. Kalm's answer reminded me of one of George Carlin's bits, when he talked about US license plates.

He said that our license plates are a study in extremes. For instance, New Hampshire's plates say, "Live Free Or DIE!"

Idaho's plates, on the other hand, say "Great Potatoes".

Carlin said that the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. Personally, I would prefer planning for the future myself. Quite frankly, if just a modest majority of Americans lived their lives in a more responsible financial sense, we would not need all of the social programs. Or just smaller versions of the ones we have.

I think it was George who suggested that New Jersey put "What Died?" on their plates.

[OL FU]

QFT!

For all of McCain's flaws, earmarks is not one of them.

Maybe I missed his point, but isn't OLFU agreeing with me? Yet you are disagreeing with me and agreeing with him?

And McCain's policy against "earmarks" doesn't make him a fiscal conservative. He still took part in some seriously large government deficit spending.

While I fully support the republican's stand against many aspects of Obama's agenda, I don't believe for a minute that there has been a complete conversion by the republicans. I am a firm believer in the old saying "Fool me once shame on you..."

[kalm]

That's an interesting point. Which side of the political spectrum would you place the "planners?" The "live for the nows?"

Well, I have my own opinions, but I am sure I could argue them all day with an equal number of people who have a different one. Kalm's answer reminded me of one of George Carlin's bits, when he talked about US license plates.

He said that our license plates are a study in extremes. For instance, New Hampshire's plates say, "Live Free Or DIE!"

Idaho's plates, on the other hand, say "Great Potatoes".

Carlin said that the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. Personally, I would prefer planning for the future myself. Quite frankly, if just a modest majority of Americans lived their lives in a more responsible financial sense, we would not need all of the social programs. Or just smaller versions of the ones we have.

This is a really interesting concept, but I'm not neccessarily buying the political aspect of it.

I have a dirty hippy friend who gardens and cans, wears clothing and drives cars until they wear out, recycles everything, uses the library instead of purchasing books, rides his bike or takes the bus - you get the picture.

He's very non-materialistic and choses to experience things rather than possess things. His family carries no debt, and he saves his money. He's fiscally a planner and one could make the argument, a true conservative. He and his family provide very little drain on the system. But socially and spiritually a "live for the now", and politically as liberal as you can get.


He's not alone.

And we all know conks who profess conservatism while sucking from the public teat.

[CID1990]

Well, I have my own opinions, but I am sure I could argue them all day with an equal number of people who have a different one. Kalm's answer reminded me of one of George Carlin's bits, when he talked about US license plates.

He said that our license plates are a study in extremes. For instance, New Hampshire's plates say, "Live Free Or DIE!"

Idaho's plates, on the other hand, say "Great Potatoes".

Carlin said that the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. Personally, I would prefer planning for the future myself. Quite frankly, if just a modest majority of Americans lived their lives in a more responsible financial sense, we would not need all of the social programs. Or just smaller versions of the ones we have.

This is a really interesting concept, but I'm not neccessarily buying the political aspect of it.

I have a dirty hippy friend who gardens and cans, wears clothing and drives cars until they wear out, recycles everything, uses the library instead of purchasing books, rides his bike or takes the bus - you get the picture.

He's very non-materialistic and choses to experience things rather than possess things. His family carries no debt, and he saves his money. He's fiscally a planner and one could make the argument, a true conservative. He and his family provide very little drain on the system. But socially and spiritually a "live for the now", and politically as liberal as you can get.


He's not alone.

And we all know conks who profess conservatism while sucking from the public teat.

Your friend is fiscally conservative in his own sphere. He conducts his life (at least fiscally speaking) conservatively. If the government operated in the way he lives, then I would be a very happy person.

When I simplify the political scene into planners and the "live for now" crowd, I am speaking solely in political terms. Your friend lives very conservatively. I was not impying that his political beliefs should automatically dovetail with his personal behavior. In fact, I'd say that personal behavior being the same as political slant is actually a rare thing. Look at our entire Congress, for instance. Non-hypocrites are extinct there, if not terminally endangered.

What I was trying to say that our political activities generally boil down to those two divergent styles, which run parallel to two major opposing human traits. Differing political slants and personal behaviors are easily present in the same person.

On your friend, I would suggest that he would be quite conservative politically if the government suddenly decided that his lifestyle should somehow be changed.

[Ivytalk]

Gosh, when I saw the title of this thread and who started it, I thought dback may have been a Republican at one time!

Then I read the article from frumforum. Sounds like a 75-year-old version of David Frum himself. "Pay attention to me! I'm David Frum! People used to give a crap about what I thought!"

PURGE HIM!!

[houndawg]

Well, I have my own opinions, but I am sure I could argue them all day with an equal number of people who have a different one. Kalm's answer reminded me of one of George Carlin's bits, when he talked about US license plates.

He said that our license plates are a study in extremes. For instance, New Hampshire's plates say, "Live Free Or DIE!"

Idaho's plates, on the other hand, say "Great Potatoes".

Carlin said that the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. Personally, I would prefer planning for the future myself. Quite frankly, if just a modest majority of Americans lived their lives in a more responsible financial sense, we would not need all of the social programs. Or just smaller versions of the ones we have.

I think it was George who suggested that New Jersey put "What Died?" on their plates.

Correction: It was Joe Piscopo.