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Foreclosures Still Increasing...

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Obamablather has failed...

...foreclosures are still increasing, matching the highest levels at the 2009 peak...

...loan modifications turned out to be a smoke-and-mirrors sham...

...and Socialization rolls on...

Big Banks Prepare for Major Rise in Foreclosures Ending 2010
by JON PRIOR

http://www.housingwire.com/2010/04/08/b ... ding-2010/
Two major banks are expecting major increases in foreclosures, by the end of 2010.

According to the Irvine Housing blog, Bank of America (BAC: 18.56 -0.54%), which currently forecloses on 7,500 homes every month will see that number rise to 45,000 by December 2010 as one senior executive pointed out at a recent trade show. However, a spokesman for BofA told HousingWire, he could not confirm the numbers and they do not reflect a public position of the bank.

JPMorgan Chase (JPM: 46.11 -0.07%) is forecasting bigger foreclosure numbers in the coming months. According to a presentation at the end of February, JPMorgan expects the amount of real estate owned (REO) properties in its portfolio to reach between 33,000 to 45,000 in Q410. By comparison, in Q409, REO inventories were at 23,100.

A property becomes REO after it forecloses and is repossessed by the bank. While those without access to the big bank REO vaults are left to speculate the exact count, many in the industry believe that an expertise in how to liquidate these properties will prove vital to a recovery.

BofA does anticipate a rise in foreclosure activity through the coming months as homeowners slip into delinquency, fail to qualify for or fall out of loan modification programs. The spokesperson said while BofA is preparing for contingencies, they will not go public with any projections as the focus remains to prevent as many foreclosures as possible through both its private modification program and the Home Affordable Modification Program (HAMP).
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Yup........they really laid the groundwork during the Bush Regime for this HUGE real estate mess. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

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No getting around this mess - plenty of people were given loans for homes they never should've gotten and there's no way to make a program now to make these people more credit-worthy than they are. Both parties share a lot of the blame in pushing home ownership rates as something to increase well beyond what was reasonable.
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mainejeff wrote:Yup........they really laid the groundwork during the Bush Regime for this HUGE real estate mess. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

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In order to be accurate you need to include Jim Carter, Bill Clinton, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, ACORN, Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi.


Now the same idiots that fu*ked the housing market are in charge of health care and are going after energy.

Keep voting them in you dumb fu*ks.
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mainejeff wrote:Yup........they really laid the groundwork during the Bush Regime for this HUGE real estate mess. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

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A little bit of an education for you. Do yourself a favor and watch it.

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It's EVERYONE's fault. Dems and Republicans for shamelessly pushing their falvor of the month agenda's. Big business making risky decisisions with little regulation or punishment for failure. Idiot indiviuals taking out loans much larger than they could comfortably afford.


However the Messiah is doing nothing to correct this mess. Obama didnt cause the problems, but he is falling far short of his grandiouse pormises.
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But the stock market is up 4500 points, so all is right with the world. Just ask mj and ky jelly. There's nothing to see here....move along....

Hey, ky: go google M1 and M2, or better yet, "money supply" and "hyper-inflation" and get back to us on your "theory" that inflation is in check.
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AZGrizFan wrote:But the stock market is up 4500 points, so all is right with the world. Just ask mj and ky jelly. There's nothing to see here....move along....

Hey, ky: go google M1 and M2, or better yet, "money supply" and "hyper-inflation" and get back to us on your "theory" that inflation is in check.
But see AZ, only right wingers, capitalists, and CEO's take advantage of this upswing in the market. Apparently only that group has a 401K or invests in equities, making money on the backs of the rabble and unwashed masses. I doubt there's a Donk around who's getting any benefit from the market moving up :ohno: :sarcasm:

My 401K is doing well, but I'm sitting here in the middle of 12.5% unemployment in my area of the country and hoping that the economy turns around. We're lucky to keep jobs, and we keep our mouths shut about the raises or promotions we think we deserve to keep from being cannon fodder on the next round of layoffs. Groceries, cable, utilities, etc. are all getting more expensive while people are either going without raises or taking pay cuts to stay employed. My net buying power is down vs. 2 yrs ago personally, but thankfully I have some newly paved roads to drive to work on thanks to the stimulus. :coffee:
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ASUG8 wrote: My net buying power is down vs. 2 yrs ago personally, but thankfully I have some newly paved roads to drive to work on thanks to the stimulus. :coffee:
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Franks Tanks wrote: However the Messiah is doing nothing to correct this mess. Obama didnt cause the problems, but he is falling far short of his grandiouse pormises.
Obama is not as clean as you might think. Why did Fannie give Obama $126,000?
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And why is a government run organization giving huge sums of money to politicians?
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
mainejeff wrote:Yup........they really laid the groundwork during the Bush Regime for this HUGE real estate mess. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

:coffee:
In order to be accurate you need to include Jim Carter, Bill Clinton, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, ACORN, Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi.


Now the same idiots that fu*ked the housing market are in charge of health care and are going after energy.

Keep voting them in you dumb fu*ks.
Don't forget Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick, Sam Johnson, Dan Mudd, Rahmie Emanual et al.
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AZGrizFan wrote:But the stock market is up 4500 points, so all is right with the world. Just ask mj and ky jelly.
Hell yeah, dude! I've made a bunch this year and I haven't even had to work for it. :mrgreen: Capitalism is so awesome.
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oldsloguy wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
In order to be accurate you need to include Jim Carter, Bill Clinton, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, ACORN, Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi.


Now the same idiots that fu*ked the housing market are in charge of health care and are going after energy.

Keep voting them in you dumb fu*ks.
Don't forget Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick, Sam Johnson, Dan Mudd, Rahmie Emanual et al.
Freddie and Fannie are highly suspicious and should be audited just like the fed. And the foreclosures are going to have continue as the shit gets worked out of the system. Part of the problem was people spending beyond their means and buying way too much house. But that's only part of the problem and probably not even the #1 reason we're in this situation.

I've posted this before but's still a good read on why it's not simply a matter of the liberals and their evil social engineering and backroom deals.

Everyone is to blame:
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I’m always amazed at these people who think the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 caused the Housing and Credit Crisis of… 2007. You’d have to be as dumb as a bag of hammers to think that a law gets passed in 1977, magically does not affect the housing market adversely for 30 years, and then suddenly explodes in toxic leverage and brings down the entire international financial system a generation later.

For the last time: the Community Reinvestment Act DID NOT FORCE BANKS TO LEND TO UNWORTHY BORROWERS. It did not force banks to open branches in bad neighborhoods or rescue “burned out” communities. It did not actually force banks to do anything at all, as a matter of fact. All the act did was specify that if you wanted to get FDIC insurance, you had to actually lend to the people whose deposits you held. And this was not mandated by quotas or numerical targets. There was no specific mechanism for this at all. The act just forced banks to be subject to periodic reviews by the banks’ primary regulator, whoever that happened to be — the Fed, the OCC, the FDIC, and the state banking institutions. These regulators were supposed to look at the banks’ lending history and make sure that they weren’t refusing to lend to their own depositors, a practice that was common in ghetto bank branches through the seventies.

Since we have all seen how completely and totally ineffectual the banking regulators have been in the last fifteen years in enforcing even the most basic criminal statutes, it again strains the imagination to conceive of the mind that would believe that somehow all these different ineffectual regulators ignored all other laws for decades but chose to hammer the banks with the CRA, forcing them all to give out loans to poor black people.

It’s not true and it’s absurd. The CRA, again, did not force anyone to make any kind of loan. I’m going to quote from the Federal Reserve’s own description of the law:

“Nor does the law require institutions to make high-risk loans that jeopardize their safety. To the contrary, the law makes it clear that an institution’s CRA activities should be undertaken in a safe and sound manner.”

This crisis had nothing to do with the CRA and everything to do with the collapse of mortgage underwriting standards, coupled with advances in the technology of securitization, which allowed banks to lend to unworthy borrowers and then sell off these dicey mortgages to secondary buyers. The driving forces in this crisis were bonuses for mortgage brokers and appraisers, underwriting fees for the securitizing firms, and commissions for the institutional fixed-income fund managers who bought this stuff from the investment banks. It was a purely market-driven process and had absolutely nothing to do with government-mandated social engineering.

It blows my mind, the lengths people will go to to blame disasters on liberals and minorities. The really ironic thing is that if you want to blame the Democrats for this stuff, there are plenty of real misdeeds to bash them for. The fact that the Limbaugh/Hannity crowd decided to focus on a basically irrelevant law like the CRA shows that they know their audiences will buy pretty much anything, so long as the punchline is black slobs on welfare breaking the back of hardworking Americans...




First of all, the agencies that conduct CRA examinations have absolutely no enforcement powers. None — zero. Even if you flunk your CRA examination, you cannot be ordered to do anything.

In fact, the government chose to address this issue in 1989 by making the results of CRA exams public. The idea here is that you’d see a little bit of a deterrent here — in the absence of real enforcement powers, banks might at least be embarrassed into lending to their depositors if the fact that they didn’t lend to minorities was explicitly made public.

On the other hand, the government didn’t want CRA exams to be such a huge burden. So in 1999, as part of Gramm-Leach-Bliley, they mandated that CRA exams would only take place once every four or five years for all banks that were deemed “Satisfactory” or better in their exams.

In the period 2002-2008, state member banks evaluated by the Fed scored the following: 15.8% were “outstanding,” 83.7% were “satisfactory,” and only .5% had a “needs to improve” or worse rating.

So the housing bubble was caused by half of one percent of all banks being so embarrassed by public disclosure of their CRA rating that they went bonkers and started forking over million-dollar mortgages to every crackhead in sight [?]
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Kalm, I haven't been around much lately but who here is blaming the CRA of 77?
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bobbythekidd wrote:Kalm, I haven't been around much lately but who here is blaming the CRA of 77?
Alpha and oldsloguy in blaming Jimmy Carter and running the gammut through the modern liberals implicated with Freddie and Fannie. Social engineering - trying to put minorities into homes they simply can't afford.
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kalm wrote:
bobbythekidd wrote:Kalm, I haven't been around much lately but who here is blaming the CRA of 77?
Alpha and oldsloguy in blaming Jimmy Carter and running the gammut through the modern liberals implicated with Freddie and Fannie. Social engineering - trying to put minorities into homes they simply can't afford.
Oh. Simple answer is that it started under Clinton. Accelerated like an out of control freight train under him and Bush II. Finally Bush saw it coming and failed to stop it. Now both parties can share the blame.

Jimmy Carter is the least of this problem.
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bobbythekidd wrote:
kalm wrote:
Alpha and oldsloguy in blaming Jimmy Carter and running the gammut through the modern liberals implicated with Freddie and Fannie. Social engineering - trying to put minorities into homes they simply can't afford.
Oh. Simple answer is that it started under Clinton. Accelerated like an out of control freight train under him and Bush II. Finally Bush saw it coming and failed to stop it. Now both parties can share the blame.

Jimmy Carter is the least of this problem.
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GannonFan wrote:No getting around this mess - plenty of people were given loans for homes they never should've gotten and there's no way to make a program now to make these people more credit-worthy than they are. Both parties share a lot of the blame in pushing home ownership rates as something to increase well beyond what was reasonable.

Agree. :thumb:
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