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Even though Berry and Spiller weren't there (taken right ahead of us), I think the Hawks made some SOLID picks. Best players available at our spots, and filled glaring needs on the team.
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I'm confused by the Vikings trade. I get that the people taken with those three picks to finish the round probably weren't on the top of the Vikings board, and we picked up a 7th rounder but still. The Vikings traded #30 and#128 for #34, #100, and#214.
I would have liked to have saw Minnesota go after a CB because Winfield is getting up there in age, and we struggled there last year, but they must feel safe with the signing of Shepard.
I think we need a RB to spell AP, like Chester Talor did. I know we have Albert Young, but I don't see him being a Chester Talor.
I also think that we need a QB. Yes, we may have Favre this year, and maybe the year after (doubtful), but what do we have after that? We just signed Tavaris Jackson to a one year 1.7 million dollar contract, so that may be a reason to not go after a QB this year, and get one next year. However, I would like to see Clausen or McCoy. Next years QB class doesn't look any better than this years with Jake Locker,Christian Ponder, Jerrod Johnson, Case Keenum, and Ricky Stanzi being the top rated QB's for next year. I can tell you right now I would never take Ricky Stanzi.
However, if Q. Scott is sitting there in the late rounds for MN, they have to take him I feel. Yes I'm a homer there, but for a 5th round pick he would be HUGE.
I would have liked to have saw Minnesota go after a CB because Winfield is getting up there in age, and we struggled there last year, but they must feel safe with the signing of Shepard.
I think we need a RB to spell AP, like Chester Talor did. I know we have Albert Young, but I don't see him being a Chester Talor.
I also think that we need a QB. Yes, we may have Favre this year, and maybe the year after (doubtful), but what do we have after that? We just signed Tavaris Jackson to a one year 1.7 million dollar contract, so that may be a reason to not go after a QB this year, and get one next year. However, I would like to see Clausen or McCoy. Next years QB class doesn't look any better than this years with Jake Locker,Christian Ponder, Jerrod Johnson, Case Keenum, and Ricky Stanzi being the top rated QB's for next year. I can tell you right now I would never take Ricky Stanzi.
However, if Q. Scott is sitting there in the late rounds for MN, they have to take him I feel. Yes I'm a homer there, but for a 5th round pick he would be HUGE.
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Bronco's give up a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round pick for... Tim Tebow?
I can understand taking a chance on the guy... but, giving away your draft to take a chance.... ?
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Can you say...bust?Skjellyfetti wrote:![]()
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Bronco's give up a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round pick for... Tim Tebow?
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But they got back a 4th from Baltimore, so really it was only a 2nd and 3rd. Still, it was a reach. I expected TT to go late first or early second, but a team trading up for him at 25?Skjellyfetti wrote:![]()
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Bronco's give up a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round pick for... Tim Tebow?
I can understand taking a chance on the guy... but, giving away your draft to take a chance.... ?![]()
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We'll see. Under the right guidance, TT could become a great NFL QB. Time will tell. McDaniels is looking like a Mad Scientist of the NFL.Grizalltheway wrote:Can you say...bust?Skjellyfetti wrote:![]()
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Bronco's give up a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round pick for... Tim Tebow?
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Hawks got the best OT and 2nd best Safety in the draft, both the best players available and fill glaring needs. WIN. Good job Caroll! 
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I'll concede that there is a remote possibility he could be an NFL QB. But, why the fuck would you want to risk your ass on that remote chance. McDaniels looks like a fucking moron.Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
We'll see. Under the right guidance, TT could become a great NFL QB. Time will tell. McDaniels is looking like a Mad Scientist of the NFL.
Watching Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn, and Tim Tebow compete for "who sucks less" would be pretty entertaining though.
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100% agree. Nothing flashy with the picks, but they filled glaring holes on our roster, and for where we got them in the draft, you couldn't do any better. I'm kinda surprised we didn't go with Derrick Morgan with that second pick, but I'm sure we can land a solid (if not spectacular) DE later in the draft. Thomas is a good one, and Okung is a freak of nature from an athletic standpoint. Hopefully they both pan out.Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Hawks got the best OT and 2nd best Safety in the draft, both the best players available and fill glaring needs. WIN. Good job Caroll!

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We're way thinner at S than DE... I would've been pissed had we taken Morgan. Berry and Thomas were a close 1 and 2, the rest of the safties in the drafter don't even compare. I've heard that we had the #2 best draft so far.Shellin wrote:100% agree. Nothing flashy with the picks, but they filled glaring holes on our roster, and for where we got them in the draft, you couldn't do any better. I'm kinda surprised we didn't go with Derrick Morgan with that second pick, but I'm sure we can land a solid (if not spectacular) DE later in the draft. Thomas is a good one, and Okung is a freak of nature from an athletic standpoint. Hopefully they both pan out.Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Hawks got the best OT and 2nd best Safety in the draft, both the best players available and fill glaring needs. WIN. Good job Caroll!
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McDaniels coached Brady during all 3 SBs. Give the man the benefit of the doubt that he knows what he's doing.Skjellyfetti wrote:I'll concede that there is a remote possibility he could be an NFL QB. But, why the fuck would you want to risk your ass on that remote chance. McDaniels looks like a fucking moron.Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
We'll see. Under the right guidance, TT could become a great NFL QB. Time will tell. McDaniels is looking like a Mad Scientist of the NFL.
Watching Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn, and Tim Tebow compete for "who sucks less" would be pretty entertaining though.
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Denver needs somebody to cover kicks? That's all I expect from Tebow in the NFL.grizband wrote:How does Tebow go ahead of Clausen?
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Who has question marks with the kid from Michigan? All the analysts expected the kid to go in the middle of the 1st. You keep calling Graham undersize but Hughes is SMALLER!!!!!!CatMom wrote:Especially with Hughes out there. God, that was a lame pick. I've seen Hughes play, the kid is a monster. Instead they take a kid from Michigan with question marks? and Hughes goes to the Coltsmtgrizfan4life wrote:I am pissed the Eagles traded up for a small DE/tweener LB. They could have done just as much or better keeping the later pick.
Even more frustrated the Redskins, Cowboys, and Giants all made better more obvious improvements.
Finally, I am stoked the Broncos got Tim Tebow. Football fans, analyst, and front office personnel are all split on Tebow. Despite hating Florida football, this kid is the biggest winner and best leader in the draft. His attitude and leadership will make him a successful NLF QB back in 2 years, maybe sooner with his work ethic. Tebow, will be the man to lead Denver back to being an elite franchise again. Congrats Bronco's.
That is it for me now. I will look forward to reading what others think, and get prepared a "Tebow War" to take place on this thread.
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Re: 2010 NFL Draft
might have had something to do with Bradford missing most of the season.clenz wrote:4 straight b12 players, and 3 from OU.
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It still baffles me that people think Clausen is the better QB here. If anyone actually watched a few of their games, to me it's a no-brainer that Tebow is the better QB, football player, leader and learner. He might not have the fundamentals and precision technique 'required' to be an NFL starting QB (as if there is only one way to be a QB in the NFL), but he was doing something right in Florida to win 2 NCs and a Heisman. If there is anyone who has the desire , willingness and athletic ability to learn or improve at either the position they drafted him for or for another position, it's Tebow. As for Clausen...what exactly did he do at ND? Lose more than he won? Fall behind early so that he had a chance to add some comebacks games to his stats? At least Clausen has added some muscle recently, because he was a scrawny boy at best in college. But I honestly can't understand why just because Kiper Jr. has Clausen's junk jammed down his throat the rest of us shouldgrizband wrote:How does Tebow go ahead of Clausen?
follow along.
As for Bradford....anyone want to place bets on how many games he lasts until he goes down for the season with another shoulder injury?
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HAHAHAHA at Denver. You bunch of idiots.
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Hey Frank, don't shoot the messenger. I didn't question his size, ESPN analysts did. I still would rather they went with Hughes.
Graham doesn't have ideal height for a defensive end prospect and he doesn't have elite natural ability, but he makes of his skill set.
Hughes is a player who has a non-stop motor. He boasts great quickness, body control and the ability to bend and accelerate to close on quarterbacks. He also shows an array of pass-rush moves which keeps offensive tackles on their toes to both the inside and outside. He had a very productive, durable career. Hughes fits perfectly at the NFL level as an undersized pass-rush specialist off the edge.
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Just another in a long line of terrible Andy Reid draft decisions. We give up our first round and two third round picks for a guy that will likely be a situational player. Just a terrible overthink by the Eagles - again.Franks Tanks wrote:Who has question marks with the kid from Michigan? All the analysts expected the kid to go in the middle of the 1st. You keep calling Graham undersize but Hughes is SMALLER!!!!!!CatMom wrote: Especially with Hughes out there. God, that was a lame pick. I've seen Hughes play, the kid is a monster. Instead they take a kid from Michigan with question marks? and Hughes goes to the Colts
Now we get to watch Dez Bryant roam free through our secondary while we contemplate what could have been with Earl Thomas back there to knock his head off. Instead, we get the poor man's version of Hugh Douglas out on the field on third down trying to get at the quarterback versus guys that weigh 75 lbs more than he does.
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At least you Philly fans have another, what, 9 drafts left???
Chances are you're going to get some quality players for years to come out of this draft, even if it isn't your #1 draft.
The Skins, uh....yeah, we don't have anything close to that number.
Unless Trent Williams can immediately step up (cuz he will be starting in game one, guaranteed) and be the next Chris Samuels, we have less of a chance of drafting an long-lasting impact player. 
The Skins, uh....yeah, we don't have anything close to that number.
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Thomas was the common sense decision, but Graham is no slouch. The guy is 268 lbs-- bigger than Trent Cole. He wont have trouble crushing QB's.93henfan wrote:Just another in a long line of terrible Andy Reid draft decisions. We give up our first round and two third round picks for a guy that will likely be a situational player. Just a terrible overthink by the Eagles - again.Franks Tanks wrote:
Who has question marks with the kid from Michigan? All the analysts expected the kid to go in the middle of the 1st. You keep calling Graham undersize but Hughes is SMALLER!!!!!!I'm starting to wonder if Reid might suffer from slight mental retardation.
Now we get to watch Dez Bryant roam free through our secondary while we contemplate what could have been with Earl Thomas back there to knock his head off. Instead, we get the poor man's version of Hugh Douglas out on the field on third down trying to get at the quarterback versus guys that weigh 75 lbs more than he does.
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Hughes is a great player, but he is not as powerful as Graham. Graham can be more physical in the run game.CatMom wrote:Hey Frank, don't shoot the messenger. I didn't question his size, ESPN analysts did. I still would rather they went with Hughes.
Graham doesn't have ideal height for a defensive end prospect and he doesn't have elite natural ability, but he makes of his skill set.Hughes is a player who has a non-stop motor. He boasts great quickness, body control and the ability to bend and accelerate to close on quarterbacks. He also shows an array of pass-rush moves which keeps offensive tackles on their toes to both the inside and outside. He had a very productive, durable career. Hughes fits perfectly at the NFL level as an undersized pass-rush specialist off the edge.
Both are good players-- we shall find out who made the better pick soon enough.
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As an Eagles fan, I will gladly eat my words from earlier in the thread if he impresses me on the field more than he does now on paper.Franks Tanks wrote:Graham is no slouch. The guy is 268 lbs-- bigger than Trent Cole. He wont have trouble crushing QB's.
I just can't get over passing up on a B-Dawk replacement, and giving up three high picks to get a situational pass rusher. Hell, they could have stayed right where they were and picked up possibly the best cover corner in the draft in Kyle Wilson. The Eagles just overthink every stinking year.
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With the Rams OLine, he'll last a couple of weeksbandl wrote:It still baffles me that people think Clausen is the better QB here. If anyone actually watched a few of their games, to me it's a no-brainer that Tebow is the better QB, football player, leader and learner. He might not have the fundamentals and precision technique 'required' to be an NFL starting QB (as if there is only one way to be a QB in the NFL), but he was doing something right in Florida to win 2 NCs and a Heisman. If there is anyone who has the desire , willingness and athletic ability to learn or improve at either the position they drafted him for or for another position, it's Tebow. As for Clausen...what exactly did he do at ND? Lose more than he won? Fall behind early so that he had a chance to add some comebacks games to his stats? At least Clausen has added some muscle recently, because he was a scrawny boy at best in college. But I honestly can't understand why just because Kiper Jr. has Clausen's junk jammed down his throat the rest of us shouldgrizband wrote:How does Tebow go ahead of Clausen?
follow along.
As for Bradford....anyone want to place bets on how many games he lasts until he goes down for the season with another shoulder injury?

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Re: 2010 NFL Draft
I'm happy with the Dez Bryant pick, especially being in a room full of Bucs fans, when the rumor started that they would trade out of the second round to get him. 



