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93henfan wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:Graham is no slouch. The guy is 268 lbs-- bigger than Trent Cole. He wont have trouble crushing QB's.
As an Eagles fan, I will gladly eat my words from earlier in the thread if he impresses me on the field more than he does now on paper.

I just can't get over passing up on a B-Dawk replacement, and giving up three high picks to get a situational pass rusher. Hell, they could have stayed right where they were and picked up possibly the best cover corner in the draft in Kyle Wilson. The Eagles just overthink every stinking year.
I understand. I think Graham will be a beast, and more of an everydown guy. He appartently destoryed linemen at the senior bowl. I do think that perhaps the Eagles could have used help in other areas first, but it appears Reid fell in love with this guy.
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Franks Tanks wrote:
93henfan wrote:
As an Eagles fan, I will gladly eat my words from earlier in the thread if he impresses me on the field more than he does now on paper.

I just can't get over passing up on a B-Dawk replacement, and giving up three high picks to get a situational pass rusher. Hell, they could have stayed right where they were and picked up possibly the best cover corner in the draft in Kyle Wilson. The Eagles just overthink every stinking year.
I understand. I think Graham will be a beast, and more of an everydown guy. He appartently destoryed linemen at the senior bowl. I do think that perhaps the Eagles could have used help in other areas first, but it appears Reid fell in love with this guy.
It's not like Graham was a reach where the Eagles got him. The Giants would've taken him two picks later. Graham was clearly a middle of the first round guy and he wouldn't have been there at 24 if the Eagles stayed where they were. And middle of the first round guys are not just 3rd down pass rushers - like Frank said, Trent Cole is smaller than this guy and he manages to stay on the field on 1st and 2nd downs.

We'll have to see with this kid - picking DE's in the draft is always a bit of a crap shoot, but the Eagles clearly needed help at that position. If it works out, then Trent Cole is all of a sudden much better and Bunkley and Patterson are better inside as well. They'll probably grab a safety (Mays from USC or that Allen kid from South Florida ) in the second round so they'll address that position as well. And really, the Eagles needed both positions as neither one by itself would solve the defensive problems.
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Graham was an absolute beast at Michigan, and had UM not been a failure of a program the last two years and he puts up the same numbers he is a top 6 pick
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GannonFan wrote:They'll probably grab a safety (Mays from USC or that Allen kid from South Florida ) in the second round so they'll address that position as well.
If Taylor Mays drops to them at #37, I'll be a lot less displeased with the Graham pick. Mays is a hitter. :thumb:
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93henfan wrote:
GannonFan wrote:They'll probably grab a safety (Mays from USC or that Allen kid from South Florida ) in the second round so they'll address that position as well.
If Taylor Mays drops to them at #37, I'll be a lot less displeased with the Graham pick. Mays is a hitter. :thumb:
Heck, both safeties will probably be there at #37 and rumors are the Eagles like Allen better than Mays. I've seen Mays play more but I really couldn't say one way or the other who would be a better safety. However, it is very likely that both would be better at safety than a Macho Harris.
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Well, I get to miss all the fun as I have a baseball game to attend tonight (it's an important conference series we have to win). Guess I have to wait until I get home to find out
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grizband wrote:How does Tebow go ahead of Clausen?
It still baffles me that people think Clausen is the better QB here. If anyone actually watched a few of their games, to me it's a no-brainer that Tebow is the better QB, football player, leader and learner. He might not have the fundamentals and precision technique 'required' to be an NFL starting QB (as if there is only one way to be a QB in the NFL), but he was doing something right in Florida to win 2 NCs and a Heisman. If there is anyone who has the desire , willingness and athletic ability to learn or improve at either the position they drafted him for or for another position, it's Tebow. As for Clausen...what exactly did he do at ND? Lose more than he won? Fall behind early so that he had a chance to add some comebacks games to his stats? At least Clausen has added some muscle recently, because he was a scrawny boy at best in college. But I honestly can't understand why just because Kiper Jr. has Clausen's junk jammed down his throat the rest of us should
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As for Bradford....anyone want to place bets on how many games he lasts until he goes down for the season with another shoulder injury? 8-)
Well put bandy. Bradford is gonna get to know Brandom Mebane, Aaron Curry and Lawrence Jackson REAL well this upcoming season. :D Sack lunch baby, num num num.
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
I'll concede that there is a remote possibility he could be an NFL QB. But, why the fuck would you want to risk your ass on that remote chance. McDaniels looks like a fucking moron.

Watching Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn, and Tim Tebow compete for "who sucks less" would be pretty entertaining though.
McDaniels coached Brady during all 3 SBs. Give the man the benefit of the doubt that he knows what he's doing.
McDaniels was a personnel assistant during the first super bowl run and a defensive assistant for the second. He only coached brady as the QBs Coach for the 3rd SB and as OC for the 16-0 regular season, but still, he does know what he's doing
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Patriots maybe trying to move up in the second round. They have 3 picks in the second but maybe are trying to get one of the first couple picks of the round to land a pass rusher they desperately need.

The Pats still have 12 draft picks heading into the second day of the draft.
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
McDaniels coached Brady during all 3 SBs. Give the man the benefit of the doubt that he knows what he's doing.
Great. He should be an assistant coach. He's done absolutely nothing to make me believe he "knows what he's doing" as a head coach. He's done quite a bit to make me think he is a dumbfuck of a headcoach. :nod:
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Denver traded the 11th overall pick it received from Chicago last year to San Francisco for the 13th overall and 113th overall picks. (net gain +1 pick)

Denver traded the 13th overall pick it received from San Francisco to Philadelphia for the 24th overall, 70th overall and 87th overall picks. (net gain: +3 picks)

Denver traded the 24th overall pick and 113th overall pick to New England for the 22nd overall pick. (net gain +2 picks)

Denver traded the 43rd overall pick, 70th overall pick and 114th overall pick to Baltimore for the 25th overall pick (net gain 0)

in the end Denver added the following picks after all trades:
25th overall pick
87th overall pick

In the end Denver lost the following picks after all trades:
43rd overall pick
114th overall pick

So basically Denver improved the 43rd overall to 25th overall and the 114th overall to 87th overall and got both players it wanted in the first round. Not sure exactly how or why anyone would be attacking McDaniels for his round 1 performance.
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Pats trade up and get Gronkowski
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UNHWildCats wrote: So basically Denver improved the 43rd overall to 25th overall and the 114th overall to 87th overall and got both players it wanted in the first round. Not sure exactly how or why anyone would be attacking McDaniels for his round 1 performance.
So... he got both players he wanted: a rookie WR and a rookie QB...

...after running off a Pro Bowl QB and a Pro Bowl WR in his first year on the job.

Gotcha. Guy is a genius. :roll:

Tim Tebow < Jay Cutler
Demaryius Thomas < Brandon Marshall

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
UNHWildCats wrote: So basically Denver improved the 43rd overall to 25th overall and the 114th overall to 87th overall and got both players it wanted in the first round. Not sure exactly how or why anyone would be attacking McDaniels for his round 1 performance.
So... he got both players he wanted: a rookie WR and a rookie QB...

...after running off a Pro Bowl QB and a Pro Bowl WR in his first year on the job.

Gotcha. Guy is a genius. :roll:

Tim Tebow < Jay Cutler
Demaryius Thomas < Brandon Marshall

Net loss.
my post had nothign to do wiuth anything that happened prior to yesterday.
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Another trade for the Pats they now have like a billion picks stockpiled lol
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Hawks took Golden Tate (WR-Notre Dame) with their second round draft pick (after trading down). Seems like a pretty decent pick to me, we've struggled mightily with wideouts these past few seasons and Tate is a strong guy that catches just about everything thrown at him. Most pundits had him as the 3rd or 4th best WR in the draft (and he was the 4th WR taken). I hated Tate at Notre Dame though, not only was he at Notre Dame, which is usually reason enough to not like the guy, but he also talked a lot of trash and got in the face of DBs after nearly every catch he made....so hopefully that stops.
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so who will take McCoy? Tampa Bay is coming up...

or Oakland... but Oakland is so unpredictable they may draft Tommy Fraser (FB, Coastal) here in the 3rd, lol.
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Packers could have taken Mount Cody, but instead take another DL from Purdue (Neal)...they must really not have faith in him.
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DKHardee wrote:so who will take McCoy? Tampa Bay is coming up...
They just took Freeman last year, I can't imagine them taking another QB. Maybe Oakland?
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Shellin wrote:
DKHardee wrote:so who will take McCoy? Tampa Bay is coming up...
They just took Freeman last year, I can't imagine them taking another QB. Maybe Oakland?
Still too much money in Russell to take another QB this high...ie. too many other needs.
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grizband wrote:Still too much money in Russell to take another QB this high...ie. too many other needs.
True. I was just looking at who needed a QB, kinda space cadeted on the fact that despite the fact that he is just sitting on the bench they're still paying him a ludicrous amount of money.
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Im hoping my Niners take McCoy... they are coming up. he could be a back-up for Smith or start over smith
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OMG! niners traded there pick
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Shellin wrote:Hawks took Golden Tate (WR-Notre Dame) with their second round draft pick (after trading down). Seems like a pretty decent pick to me, we've struggled mightily with wideouts these past few seasons and Tate is a strong guy that catches just about everything thrown at him. Most pundits had him as the 3rd or 4th best WR in the draft (and he was the 4th WR taken). I hated Tate at Notre Dame though, not only was he at Notre Dame, which is usually reason enough to not like the guy, but he also talked a lot of trash and got in the face of DBs after nearly every catch he made....so hopefully that stops.
We didn't really trade down, just exchanged 2nd rounders with San Diego in the trade for Whitehurst. Tate's a solid pickup, although I was kind of hoping we'd pick McCoy.
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Shellin wrote:Hawks took Golden Tate (WR-Notre Dame) with their second round draft pick (after trading down). Seems like a pretty decent pick to me, we've struggled mightily with wideouts these past few seasons and Tate is a strong guy that catches just about everything thrown at him. Most pundits had him as the 3rd or 4th best WR in the draft (and he was the 4th WR taken). I hated Tate at Notre Dame though, not only was he at Notre Dame, which is usually reason enough to not like the guy, but he also talked a lot of trash and got in the face of DBs after nearly every catch he made....so hopefully that stops.
We didn't really trade down, just exchanged 2nd rounders with San Diego in the trade for Whitehurst. Tate's a solid pickup, although I was kind of hoping we'd pick McCoy.
#40: Seattle → San Diego (PD). Seattle traded this selection and its 2011 third-round selection to San Diego for quarterback Charlie Whitehurst and the Chargers' 2010 second-round selection (60th overall)

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