Teacher sues for right to give out "F"'s
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Teacher sues for right to give out "F"'s
Are fourth-graders too young to fail? Prevented from flunking her students, Sheila Goudeau of Louisiana is suing local school officials in East Baton Rouge for interfering with her duties as a teacher. Goudeau, a 20-year veteran instructor who teaches fourth-graders, alleges in her lawsuit that Shilonda Shamlin, the principal of Riveroaks Elementary School, ordered the faculty to not grade lower than 60%, in effect a “D.” She claims the restriction is a violation of a state law that forbids administrative and school board officials from influencing or altering grades given out by teachers.
Goudeau, who is now teaching at a different school, further claims that “illegal alteration of students’ grades misled the affected students and their parents into thinking they were passing and obtaining the required skills to proceed to fifth grade, when in reality those students were neither passing nor obtaining the requisite skills needed for the fifth grade.”
http://www.allgov.com/Unusual_News/View ... _Fs_100505" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Good for her!!
Goudeau, who is now teaching at a different school, further claims that “illegal alteration of students’ grades misled the affected students and their parents into thinking they were passing and obtaining the required skills to proceed to fifth grade, when in reality those students were neither passing nor obtaining the requisite skills needed for the fifth grade.”
http://www.allgov.com/Unusual_News/View ... _Fs_100505" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Good for her!!
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Re: Teacher sues for right to give out "F"'s
Great find! Seems as though Ms. Goudeau is giving the big f-you to the school officials! Woo-hoo!
Shilonda Shamlin needs to be sent packing.
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Re: Teacher sues for right to give out "F"'s
I hope she wins her case...that's just plain wrong... 
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Re: Teacher sues for right to give out "F"'s
Here's another article with more details
http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/05/03/26900.htm
I applaud the teacher for doing this. It's unfortunate that she had to go to court. The supt. of schools and/or school board appear to be involved as well. They need to be sent packing along with the principal.
This also shows a problem with holding teachers and administrators accountable if they have no morals. Under No Child Left Behind schools that continually fail can end up on a watch list. If you still don't improve one of the requirements is that teachers and administrators HAVE to be fired. Padding the test scores can be a way to keep you off the list and help you keep your job. I hope the principal doesn't teach an ethics class.
http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/05/03/26900.htm
I applaud the teacher for doing this. It's unfortunate that she had to go to court. The supt. of schools and/or school board appear to be involved as well. They need to be sent packing along with the principal.
This also shows a problem with holding teachers and administrators accountable if they have no morals. Under No Child Left Behind schools that continually fail can end up on a watch list. If you still don't improve one of the requirements is that teachers and administrators HAVE to be fired. Padding the test scores can be a way to keep you off the list and help you keep your job. I hope the principal doesn't teach an ethics class.
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Re: Teacher sues for right to give out "F"'s
Oh yes, "progressive" education at it's finest.
Guess they can start handing out participation trophies at their high school graduations.
Guess they can start handing out participation trophies at their high school graduations.
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Re: Teacher sues for right to give out "F"'s
Two nuts up here!!! Our public schools are nothing but glorified pussy factories. Private schooling looks better on a daily basis. 
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I thought social promotion went out the door 10-20 years ago. I guess I was wrong.
Cat-man is right. But homeschooling is also a good option IF at least one of the parents can deal with the hassles involved.
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Re: Teacher sues for right to give out "F"'s
Private school / Public school / Home School...
Just like almost everything in life.. it's what you make it
Some of our brightest doctors and scientists come from regular old high schools
In regular little towns all over America
This idea that public schools suck is just a reaction - there are lots of great public schools and great teachers and a kid can be successful and get a great education at just about any public school anywhere...

Just like almost everything in life.. it's what you make it
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This idea that public schools suck is just a reaction - there are lots of great public schools and great teachers and a kid can be successful and get a great education at just about any public school anywhere...
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Re: Teacher sues for right to give out "F"'s
My first grade class had 3 students that didn't join us in second grade, and one stayed back to be with her sister. Today they are all productive members of society. Some of the ones that stayed with our class thoughout, are pretty messed up though.dbackjon wrote:Are fourth-graders too young to fail? Prevented from flunking her students, Sheila Goudeau of Louisiana is suing local school officials in East Baton Rouge for interfering with her duties as a teacher. Goudeau, a 20-year veteran instructor who teaches fourth-graders, alleges in her lawsuit that Shilonda Shamlin, the principal of Riveroaks Elementary School, ordered the faculty to not grade lower than 60%, in effect a “D.” She claims the restriction is a violation of a state law that forbids administrative and school board officials from influencing or altering grades given out by teachers.

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Great point ChizzyChizzang wrote:Private school / Public school / Home School...
Just like almost everything in life.. it's what you make it
Some of our brightest doctors and scientists come from regular old high schools
In regular little towns all over America
This idea that public schools suck is just a reaction - there are lots of great public schools and great teachers and a kid can be successful and get a great education at just about any public school anywhere...

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Re: Teacher sues for right to give out "F"'s
Do grades really matter at this point? Anyone here remember what type of grades they were getting in 4th grade?
Nothing like passing out a few "F's" to motivate 10 year olds.
Nothing like passing out a few "F's" to motivate 10 year olds.
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Well put.Chizzang wrote:Private school / Public school / Home School...
Just like almost everything in life.. it's what you make it
Some of our brightest doctors and scientists come from regular old high schools
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This idea that public schools suck is just a reaction - there are lots of great public schools and great teachers and a kid can be successful and get a great education at just about any public school anywhere...
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And if the parents have a clue about what they are doing. Don't forget the Fred Phelps family home schools their kids.SuperHornet wrote:I thought social promotion went out the door 10-20 years ago. I guess I was wrong.
Cat-man is right. But homeschooling is also a good option IF at least one of the parents can deal with the hassles involved.
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For heavens sakes let us in no way foster accountability or competition in our youth!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We might offend somebody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Teacher sues for right to give out "F"'s
in South Carolina a 60 is an Fdbackjon wrote:Are fourth-graders too young to fail? Prevented from flunking her students, Sheila Goudeau of Louisiana is suing local school officials in East Baton Rouge for interfering with her duties as a teacher. Goudeau, a 20-year veteran instructor who teaches fourth-graders, alleges in her lawsuit that Shilonda Shamlin, the principal of Riveroaks Elementary School, ordered the faculty to not grade lower than 60%, in effect a “D.” She claims the restriction is a violation of a state law that forbids administrative and school board officials from influencing or altering grades given out by teachers.
Goudeau, who is now teaching at a different school, further claims that “illegal alteration of students’ grades misled the affected students and their parents into thinking they were passing and obtaining the required skills to proceed to fifth grade, when in reality those students were neither passing nor obtaining the requisite skills needed for the fifth grade.”
http://www.allgov.com/Unusual_News/View ... _Fs_100505" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Good for her!!
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Re: Teacher sues for right to give out "F"'s
welcome to liberal utopia where everyone is equal and God is dead.blueballs wrote:For heavens sakes let us in no way foster accountability or competition in our youth!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We might offend somebody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You two are quite the pair....catamount man wrote:welcome to liberal utopia where everyone is equal and God is dead.blueballs wrote:For heavens sakes let us in no way foster accountability or competition in our youth!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We might offend somebody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Whitewashing the entire homeschooling concept over the antics of one lunatic is illogical at best. Some of the most productive members of society came out of homeschooling. #15 comes to mind just off the top of my head.HI54UNI wrote:And if the parents have a clue about what they are doing. Don't forget the Fred Phelps family home schools their kids.SuperHornet wrote:I thought social promotion went out the door 10-20 years ago. I guess I was wrong.
Cat-man is right. But homeschooling is also a good option IF at least one of the parents can deal with the hassles involved.

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I never said homeschooling was bad. However people that whitewash the entire public school system because of one bad school is illogical as well, right?SuperHornet wrote:Whitewashing the entire homeschooling concept over the antics of one lunatic is illogical at best. Some of the most productive members of society came out of homeschooling. #15 comes to mind just off the top of my head.HI54UNI wrote:
And if the parents have a clue about what they are doing. Don't forget the Fred Phelps family home schools their kids.
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For me, a lot of that depends on the district. Some have financial issues; others just don't really give a rip about their students. Still others do an outstanding job, sometimes with limited resources. You are correct that whitewashing is a bad thing to do regardless of the target. Sure, libs have taken control in many places, but at the level of the individual teacher are some of the most dedicated professionals on the planet who are usually not compensated anywhere near the amount of effort they put into the job.HI54UNI wrote:I never said homeschooling was bad. However people that whitewash the entire public school system because of one bad school is illogical as well, right?SuperHornet wrote:
Whitewashing the entire homeschooling concept over the antics of one lunatic is illogical at best. Some of the most productive members of society came out of homeschooling. #15 comes to mind just off the top of my head.

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