D1B wrote:D1B wrote:
Give me some examples of your success.
Anything Dodger Joe Jr.?
No jackass, I'm not on here every day like you.
Libertylegal.org: its right there on the website I linked in the previous post:
"Past Cases
Plano Vietnamese Baptist Church (PVBC), et al. v. City of Plano
Liberty Institute represented Pastor Le and the congregation in this church zoning case. Despite following all the proper procedures for purchasing the property, the church was denied occupancy because the property did not meet the city's 2-acre site requirement for churches. Members of the congregation had donated their life savings to buy the property only to be told by the city they could not meet there, even though the property originally was built as a church several years ago. In our lawsuit we demanded that the 2-acre rule be declared an unconstitutional ordinance that discriminates against small churches. We won. Watch the video of Pastor Le's amazing story.
Croft, et al. v. Governor of Texas
A lawsuit was filed against the State of Texas by an atheist who objected to the word "pray" in the Texas Moment of Silence Statute. Liberty Institute filed an amicus brief to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals and presented oral arguments on behalf of a group of public school students to protect the state's law, which allows a minute of silence for students to pray, meditate or reflect. The statute was upheld in the Federal Court of Appeals.
Collegiate Community Outreach (CCO) d/b/a UNT Chi Alpha, and Nathan Wesson v. City of Denton, et al.
Liberty Institute filed a lawsuit in federal court to protect CCO's First Amendment rights in this church zoning case. CCO is a religious ministry located in a residential area close to the University of North Texas campus. The City of Denton told the ministry they could no longer operate out of their current property in violation of zoning laws. After Liberty Institute filed a lawsuit, the City eventually changed their mind and allowed the ministry to continue operating.
Pastor Rick Barr and Philemon Homes, Inc. v City of Sinton
Liberty Institute represented a pastor and a Christian organization that provided housing and religious instruction to men after being released from prison for misdemeanor offenses. The city completely banned this organization from existing anywhere in its city limits. Liberty Institute argued at the Texas Supreme Court to reverse the decisions below. In a landmark decision, we won! Moreover, this case is historic in that it is the first in Texas history interpreting RFRA (the Texas Religious Freedoms Restoration Act) and is already being used as a model nationwide in protecting religious freedom.
Barrow v. Greenville I.S.D.
Mrs. Barrow, a 15-year teacher with her principal's certificate for 10 years, was told by the Superintendent that she could only have the assistant principalship for which she was recommended if she agreed to take her own children out of Christian school. When Mrs. Barrow explained her religious objections to removing her children, she was denied the position. Liberty Institute defended Ms. Barrow and the rights of Christian parents to choose religious education for their children without government retribution. The U.S. District Court in Dallas ruled that the right of parents to choose private education was not a fundamental right and thus ruled against Mrs. Barrow. Liberty Institute appealed and won a 3 to 0 reversal before the Federal Court of Appeals. Following a two-week jury trial, the jury found that the superintendent had violated Ms. Barrow's constitutional parental rights and awarded Ms. Barrow lost wages and punitive damages and ordered the superintendent to pay Liberty Institute fees. We won.
HEB Ministries v. Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board
Tyndale Seminary was fined $173,000 by the state for using the word "seminary" and issuing theological degrees without receiving government approval. Liberty Institute filed suit in district court against the state for violating the U.S. and state constitutions. The suit, on behalf of Tyndale as well as other seminaries across the state, argued that government attempts to control the religious training of seminaries are unconstitutional. The Austin Court of Appeals ruled in favor of the state and the case was appealed to the Texas Supreme Court. The Texas Supreme Court granted review and heard oral arguments from Liberty Institute. The Texas Supreme Court ruled in favor of Tyndale, in a landmark ruling, stating the law intrudes upon religious freedom protected by the U.S. and Texas Constitutions."
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American Center For Law & Justice: again, on the website I linked in the previous post:
"Pleasant Grove City v. Summum (2007) (Liberty Institute filed an amicus brief in support)
In a unanimous decision, the Supreme Court of the United States issued a landmark First Amendment ruling on February 25, 2009 clearing the way for governments to accept permanent monuments of their choosing in public parks. The decision comes in the case of Pleasant Grove City v. Summum, a critical First Amendment case in which the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) represented the Utah city in a challenge to a display of the Ten Commandments in a city park. ACLJ Chief Counsel Jay Sekulow presented oral arguments to the high court on November 12, 2008. The ACLJ asked the high court to overturn a decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit that ordered Pleasant Grove City, UT to accept and display a monument from a self-described church called Summum because the city displays a Ten Commandments monument donated by the Fraternal Order of Eagles. The ACLJ successfully argued that the lower court ruling was flawed - a ruling that said private parties have a First Amendment right to put up the monuments of their choosing in a city park, unless the city takes away all other donated monuments - a ruling that runs counter to well-established precedent that the government has to be neutral toward private speech, but it does not have to be neutral in its own speech. The case is Pleasant Grove City v. Summum (No. 07-665).
Duchesne City v. Summum (2007)
This case mirrors the First Amendment issues raised in Pleasant Grove City v. Summum. And when the Supreme Court agreed to hear the Pleasant Grove case, it decided to hold this companion case from Utah involving Duchesne City. After the Supreme Court issued its unanimous ruling on our behalf in the Pleasant Grove City case, the high court on March 2, 2009 issued an order granting the ACLJ’s Petition for Writ of Certiorari in the case of Duchesne City v. Summum, vacating the judgment in the case, and remanding it to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit for further consideration in light of the Pleasant Grove City decision. The case is Duchesne City v. Summum (No. 07-690).
Hein v. Freedom From Religion Foundation (2006)
The Supreme Court turned away a federal lawsuit by church-state separationists challenging the use of taxpayer dollars to fund a program of President Bush's faith-based initiative. The Court ruled that the separationists had no legal standing to bring the suit. In a 5-4 decision, the high court issued its decision on June 25, 2007 in the case of Hein v. Freedom From Religion Foundation (U.S. No. 06-157). The ACLJ filed an amicus brief with the high court in support of the federal government’s position which prevailed. The ACLJ said the decision represents a significant victory that sends a powerful message that atheists and others antagonistic to religion do not get an automatic free pass to bring Establishment Clause lawsuits.
U.S. v. Newdow, (2003)
Representing more than 260,000 Americans and nearly 70 members of Congress, the ACLJ filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court in support of the constitutionality of the phrase “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance. The Supreme Court rejected the legal challenge to the Pledge, saying Michael Newdow did not have legal standing to bring the case and removed the federal appeals court ruling that declared the Pledge unconstitutional.
Gentala v. City of Tucson
After six years of litigation, the ACLJ was successful in protecting the constitutional rights of a group of citizens who applied to use a public park in Arizona for a National Day of Prayer Event. After the Supreme Court issued a decision in a separate, unrelated case, the high court vacated an appeals court ruling against our client – ordering the trial court to reconsider the case based on the Supreme Court’s decision in the Good News Club case. The trial court finally held that the city of Tucson’s discriminatory treatment of our client must end – ruling that the city’s action infringed upon our client’s right to equal access to a public park....."
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Foundation for Individual Rights in Education: Again, right on their website I linked in the original post:
Rutgers University: Refusal to Allow Christian Clubs to Require Christian Leadership
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Southern Illinois University at Carbondale: Derecognition of Christian Law School Group
http://www.thefire.org/case/718.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Many of their key cases were won just with the threat of legal action:
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I forgot to mention the Alliance Defense Fund:
1995
ADF funded two U.S. Supreme Court victories. One involved discrimination against a Christian group on a secular campus (Rosenberger v. Rector and Visitors of the University of Virginia)....
2001
Citing Rosenberger, the U.S. Supreme Court decides that schools do not violate the U.S. Constitution when they allow Bible clubs to meet after hours.
2005
After a 10-year battle, ADF attorneys secure a permanent injunction against the Board of Education of the City of New York, barring them from refusing to rent space at a public school to a Bronx church for Sunday morning worship meetings.
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It's mindboggling that this is an issue.
So sad, yet my instinct to help the weak and feeble-minded forces me to make yet another attempt: It's only the christians, T'man, and only those christians who insist on spewing their recycled Egyptian sun god myth where nobody wants to hear it. Which is pretty much everywhere. They just can't understand that anybody that wants what they're selling will go get it on their own. 
Something we rarely see around here, especially from the religious conks.
