Where are all the fat people..?

[Ivytalk]

Amazing video. Not a single collision! Did you see the rat bastage who passed on the right at the 1 minute mark?

[danefan]

Hate to get serious here for a brief moment, but poverty has a bit to do with this. Let's face it. Some of you here buy your groceries at Whole Foods and pay people to organically raise your beef. That's just not happening with people in tough urban neighborhoods or out in rural areas. It's far cheaper to eat food that's packed with fat and calories. I saw a show (forget if it was PBS or 60 Minutes or what) where neighborhoods in Detroit were pleading for a place where they could buy fresh fruits and vegetables. There simply weren't any supermarkets providing them. All they have are fast food, convenience stores, and liquor stores lining their streets.

And like JMU DJ stated earlier, it would be great to bike to work. I applaud the efforts that Portland, Seattle, the California cities, etc. have made, but they have climates to support it. Biking to work might make sense for 30% of the year with the humid, rainy, snowy, freezing hodgepodge we get in these parts. And really, I'm not too keen on making the 130 mile round trip to my work on bike. Thank God they let me telework three days a week. It allows me to watch TV while I enjoy my KFC and Ben and Jerry's.

I have long advocated for major subsidies and tax breaks specifically for organic and "healthy" grocers in impoverished areas. Our medicaid costs would decline dramatically, IMO.

[mainejeff]

To answer the original question........

They're all in the South or flying on airplanes........

[YoUDeeMan]

Hate to get serious here for a brief moment, but poverty has a bit to do with this. Let's face it. Some of you here buy your groceries at Whole Foods and pay people to organically raise your beef. That's just not happening with people in tough urban neighborhoods or out in rural areas. It's far cheaper to eat food that's packed with fat and calories. I saw a show (forget if it was PBS or 60 Minutes or what) where neighborhoods in Detroit were pleading for a place where they could buy fresh fruits and vegetables. There simply weren't any supermarkets providing them. All they have are fast food, convenience stores, and liquor stores lining their streets.

Can't blame it on poverty...fat is a matter of choice.

Supermarkets pull out of poor areas for one reason...when all things are considered, those areas are not profitable enough. Funny though how those liquor stores, convenience stores, check cashing places, pawn shops, etc. can make money.

BTW, suburbia has plenty of supermakrkets...and people drive to them instead of walking...and people buy tasty FATTY foods instead of healthy foods.

Poor people can be thin...anyone can be thin. But some parents find it is much easier to stuff their kid with a twinkie instead of cooking a good meal...the twinkie is faster and doesn't interrupt TV.

[Grizalltheway]

Amazing video. Not a single collision! Did you see the rat bastage who passed on the right at the 1 minute mark?

I'll be honest, I was waiting for someone to get creamed by a bus and/or tram.

[travelinman67]

Hate to get serious here for a brief moment, but poverty has a bit to do with this. Let's face it. Some of you here buy your groceries at Whole Foods and pay people to organically raise your beef. That's just not happening with people in tough urban neighborhoods or out in rural areas. It's far cheaper to eat food that's packed with fat and calories. I saw a show (forget if it was PBS or 60 Minutes or what) where neighborhoods in Detroit were pleading for a place where they could buy fresh fruits and vegetables. There simply weren't any supermarkets providing them. All they have are fast food, convenience stores, and liquor stores lining their streets.

Can't blame it on poverty...fat is a matter of choice.

Supermarkets pull out of poor areas for one reason...when all things are considered, those areas are not profitable enough. Funny though how those liquor stores, convenience stores, check cashing places, pawn shops, etc. can make money.

BTW, suburbia has plenty of supermakrkets...and people drive to them instead of walking...and people buy tasty FATTY foods instead of healthy foods.

Poor people can be thin...anyone can be thin. But some parents find it is much easier to stuff their kid with a twinkie instead of cooking a good meal...the twinkie is faster and doesn't interrupt TV.

You obviously have never shopped for a family.

Your "twinkie" theory is leftover from college days, when, after spending all but $50 of your monthly food budget on pot, you spent what's left on a case of Little Debbies and two XL combo, deep dish pizzas...

...then hung around with "locals" for the rest of the month bumming from their parents.

Families living in poverty exercise more discipline than you give them credit for.

As a rule, healthier foods, i.e., lean meats, organic vegetables, whole grain products, COST MORE than less wholesome foods: Poultry with the skin left on, fattier cuts of meat, starches (pasta, potatoes), white bread, etc...

When a poor person walks into a market with $40 to feed a family for one week, they'll typically walk out with something like...

30% fat ground beef
5 lb bag of potatoes
1-2 lbs cheese
2 loaves of white bread
1 lb pasta
1 lb white rice
2 whole chickens
2 lbs each celery/carrots/onions
1 gal whole milk
5 lb bag of apples
lettuce & tomatoes
peanut butter & jelly

Excepting for vegetables...it's all about calories, mostly from fat and starch, and protein.

Here's a lesson for you, Cluck...

...take what you spend weekly on groceries, cut it by 65%, live on that for two months...

...then come back and tell us about "choice".

[Gil Dobie]

...take what you spend weekly on groceries, cut it by 65%, live on that for two months...

...then come back and tell us about "choice".

True, grocery stores charge more for low fat, organic or anything with a special healthy name on it.

[JMU DJ]

You obviously have never shopped for a family.

Your "twinkie" theory is leftover from college days, when, after spending all but $50 of your monthly food budget on pot, you spent what's left on a case of Little Debbies and two XL combo, deep dish pizzas...

...then hung around with "locals" for the rest of the month bumming from their parents.

Families living in poverty exercise more discipline than you give them credit for.

As a rule, healthier foods, i.e., lean meats, organic vegetables, whole grain products, COST MORE than less wholesome foods: Poultry with the skin left on, fattier cuts of meat, starches (pasta, potatoes), white bread, etc...

When a poor person walks into a market with $40 to feed a family for one week, they'll typically walk out with something like...

30% fat ground beef
5 lb bag of potatoes
1-2 lbs cheese
2 loaves of white bread
1 lb pasta
1 lb white rice
2 whole chickens
2 lbs each celery/carrots/onions
1 gal whole milk
5 lb bag of apples
lettuce & tomatoes
peanut butter & jelly

Excepting for vegetables...it's all about calories, mostly from fat and starch, and protein.

Here's a lesson for you, Cluck...

...take what you spend weekly on groceries, cut it by 65%, live on that for two months...

...then come back and tell us about "choice".

Healthy eating really does cost more.

That’s what University of Washington researchers found when they compared the prices of 370 foods sold at supermarkets in the Seattle area. Calorie for calorie, junk foods not only cost less than fruits and vegetables, but junk food prices also are less likely to rise as a result of inflation. The findings, reported in the current issue of the Journal of the American Dietetic Association, may help explain why the highest rates of obesity are seen among people in lower-income groups.

The scientists took an unusual approach, essentially comparing the price of a calorie in a junk food to one consumed in a healthier meal. Although fruits and vegetables are rich in nutrients, they also contain relatively few calories. Foods with high energy density, meaning they pack the most calories per gram, included candy, pastries, baked goods and snacks.

The survey found that higher-calorie, energy-dense foods are the better bargain for cash-strapped shoppers. Energy-dense munchies cost on average $1.76 per 1,000 calories, compared with $18.16 per 1,000 calories for low-energy but nutritious foods.

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$1.76 vs $18.16

If I didn't have my fiances income to help supplement grocery shopping, I wouldn't be eating as well as I do. My first year of grad school looked eerily like Tmans grocery list .... and I have it better than most grad students in the nation, I think about my friends who go to Johns Hopkins and Harvard who make exactly/less than I do. Plus, these kids and I don't have families to feed, so I can only imagine how much more difficult that becomes.

[Pwns]

3 points...

1) Processed food is always a scapegoat, but the truth is that if you can eat processed food and still be reasonably healthy. I became healthier and had more energy after I moved out of my parents house and became responsible for my own meals. And my diet in college has consisted of Quaker Oatmeal (Apple-cinnamon is my favorite), sweetened cereals with 2% milk, PB&J with whole-wheat bread, chef boyardee pastas, and fast-food salads and wraps. Also, I only eat hot dogs and bacon that are made with turkey instead of beef. They are cheaper, taste better, and are healthier. I spend less on food than the vast majority of students also.

2) F%^* organic food. It's just like bottled water as in it is a perceived need when in reality it offers no real health benefits. Penn and Teller had a good episode on organic food that details all the scientific evidence debunking the idea that the food is healthier and more sustainable. You can find it on youtube if you want to watch it.

3) The whole country needs to chill the f$%^ out about obesity. The notion that it is a drain on the healthcare system is largely unsubstantiated. The only study that bothered to take into account the money saved by the obese not living long enough to need long-term care, various prescription drugs, and other expenses involved in geriatric care showed that the cost is minimal, and that obesity may actually save the system money.

[93henfan]

3) The whole country needs to chill the f$%^ out about obesity. The notion that it is a drain on the healthcare system is largely unsubstantiated. The only study that bothered to take into account the money saved by the obese not living long enough to need long-term care, various prescription drugs, and other expenses involved in geriatric care showed that the cost is minimal, and that obesity may actually save the system money.

That's a very interesting point. How many 80 year old really fat people do you see? Not a lot. That, at least in my family, seems to be the age around when people start losing their mental sharpness and are more prone to start needing the services of a nursing home. Had they been complete lard asses, they likely would have keeled over early of a heart attack, sound of mind, costing only a funeral to their families. It's the skinny old bastards all hunched over with their walkers that are costing us.

Hell, imagine if you were a Raiders fan. If this asshole had been fat, he probably would have died in the mid-80s and your team might not have sucked for the past 25 years:

[Gil Dobie]

Hell, imagine if you were a Raiders fan. If this ******* had been fat, he probably would have died in the mid-80s and your team might not have sucked for the past 25 years:

..or if the Minnesota Vikings had not jumped ship from the AFL to the NFL, there never would have been an Oakland Raiders team owned by Al Davis.

[YoUDeeMan]

You obviously have never shopped for a family.

As a rule, healthier foods, i.e., lean meats, organic vegetables, whole grain products, COST MORE than less wholesome foods: Poultry with the skin left on, fattier cuts of meat, starches (pasta, potatoes), white bread, etc...

When a poor person walks into a market with $40 to feed a family for one week, they'll typically walk out with something like...

Excepting for vegetables...it's all about calories, mostly from fat and starch, and protein.

...take what you spend weekly on groceries, cut it by 65%, live on that for two months...

...then come back and tell us about "choice".

Complete Nonsense...except the part about the calories. It is all about the calories...exercise off the calories and you won't get fat...end of story.

1) Organic foods have NOTHING to do with obesity. Organic foods were not around when I was young. We weren't fat.
2) White bread was the only thing you could find in my youth. We weren't fat.
3) Low fat milk was no where to be found when I was young. We weren't fat.
4) We ate tons of pasta, starches, fatty hamburgers, etc...cheap, inexpensive foods. We weren't fat.
5) It is absolutely amazing what people in my neighborhood eat...and we are in a neighborhood with people from all over the world. Some eat a ton of junk food, others eat only healthy foods. Guess what? None, not one, of the 30+ kids in our neighborhood are fat. There isn't a single kid that is close to being chubby.

The thing we all have in common is that our kids are outside playing almost every day. They are not inside watching TV or playing video games.

Stay active and you won't get fat.

[kalm]

Recently, a movie was being shot that involved Woodstock...the producers had a hard time getting people skinny enough to replicate the stock footage from the original Festival...

Was it that, or was it hard to find people that would listen to the bad music?

That's just sad. Unsurprising, but none the less sad.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

You obviously have never shopped for a family.

As a rule, healthier foods, i.e., lean meats, organic vegetables, whole grain products, COST MORE than less wholesome foods: Poultry with the skin left on, fattier cuts of meat, starches (pasta, potatoes), white bread, etc...

When a poor person walks into a market with $40 to feed a family for one week, they'll typically walk out with something like...

Excepting for vegetables...it's all about calories, mostly from fat and starch, and protein.

...take what you spend weekly on groceries, cut it by 65%, live on that for two months...

...then come back and tell us about "choice".

Complete Nonsense...except the part about the calories. It is all about the calories...exercise off the calories and you won't get fat...end of story.

1) Organic foods have NOTHING to do with obesity. Organic foods were not around when I was young. We weren't fat.
2) White bread was the only thing you could find in my youth. We weren't fat.
3) Low fat milk was no where to be found when I was young. We weren't fat.
4) We ate tons of pasta, starches, fatty hamburgers, etc...cheap, inexpensive foods. We weren't fat.
5) It is absolutely amazing what people in my neighborhood eat...and we are in a neighborhood with people from all over the world. Some eat a ton of junk food, others eat only healthy foods. Guess what? None, not one, of the 30+ kids in our neighborhood are fat. There isn't a single kid that is close to being chubby.

The thing we all have in common is that our kids are outside playing almost every day. They are not inside watching TV or playing video games.

Stay active and you won't get fat.

So true, its that simple burn more calories than you take in.

Kids now days are lazy and the parents are even lazier. Hence they are fat fu*ks.

[Skjellyfetti]

What kind of music does Grizzaholic listen to? Toby Keith and Kenny Chesney?