As Oil Spreads, BP Says it Underestimated Flow

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Maybe because this hasnt happened to an American company in what............26-30 years?

Its not a common problem because they have multiple stages of safety. This one went through 3 or 4 safety devices.


If you want to point the finger point it at environmental groups, they are ultimately the ones that are responsible for this accident. If they didnt push companies out to sea this never would have happened. A leak like this on land would have been dealt with in a few days and no oil into any water.
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:ohno: BP has a decades long rep in the industry for avoiding maintenance until something breaks, Alice. Some of these scumsuckers need to go to jail. Corporations having the same rights as persons means three strikes and you're out. :nod:
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houndawg wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Maybe because this hasnt happened to an American company in what............26-30 years?

Its not a common problem because they have multiple stages of safety. This one went through 3 or 4 safety devices.


If you want to point the finger point it at environmental groups, they are ultimately the ones that are responsible for this accident. If they didnt push companies out to sea this never would have happened. A leak like this on land would have been dealt with in a few days and no oil into any water.
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:ohno: BP has a decades long rep in the industry for avoiding maintenance until something breaks, Alice. Some of these scumsuckers need to go to jail. Corporations having the same rights as persons means three strikes and you're out. :nod:
Sounds like a company skirting the rules in a less than well regulated environment. Both entities are wrong and need fixing.
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ASUG8 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
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:ohno: BP has a decades long rep in the industry for avoiding maintenance until something breaks, Alice. Some of these scumsuckers need to go to jail. Corporations having the same rights as persons means three strikes and you're out. :nod:
Sounds like a company skirting the rules in a less than well regulated environment. Both entities are wrong and need fixing.

I don't see how BP can be fixed when they can buy whatever legislation they want with the blessing of the Supreme Court.
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Question: Is that the CAPITALISTS fault? Or the government's?
Obviously it is BOTH. Big corporation will do anything, no matter how unethical, to increase the bottom line. Government allows most anything to be fair game as long pockets are fairly lines. Capitalists and the people that run our government are both greedy, bastard, soulless ****. Both are equally to blame.
Thats because they are pressured by the share holders (anyone who owns stock) to improve that bottom line. Since most/all of us on here own stock...
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The Gulf of Mexico contains about 643 quadrillion gallons of water:
http://www.epa.gov/gmpo/about/facts.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Say if even 25 million gallons of oil has leaked out so far, that is less than one part per 25 billion if my math is correct. Its hard to imagine how such a minute concentration of oil relative to all the water in the whole Gulf of Mexico could be so bad.
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BDKJMU wrote:The Gulf of Mexico contains about 643 quadrillion gallons of water:
http://www.epa.gov/gmpo/about/facts.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Say if even 25 million gallons of oil has leaked out so far, that is less than one part per 25 billion if my math is correct. Its hard to imagine how such a minute concentration of oil relative to all the water in the whole Gulf of Mexico could be so bad.
If it was completely dispersed, that would be one thing. But it is not.


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dbackjon wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:The Gulf of Mexico contains about 643 quadrillion gallons of water:
http://www.epa.gov/gmpo/about/facts.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Say if even 25 million gallons of oil has leaked out so far, that is less than one part per 25 billion if my math is correct. Its hard to imagine how such a minute concentration of oil relative to all the water in the whole Gulf of Mexico could be so bad.
If it was completely dispersed, that would be one thing. But it is not.

Yes, this is the "Clenz" argument.


"Well, this much oil is naturally released into the ocean every year."


Correct, but across the entire globe. This is the entire natural dispersion of oil per year localized in one place.
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