We were talking over lunch today in our breakroom, if you were pulled over by the police, how would you prove that you are a US citizen? Most of us only routinely carry a drivers liscense, but that really doesn't mean anything. A guy that works here employs a number of "un-documented" workers in his livestock farming operation, and all of them have a drivers liscense, insurance card, and vehicle registration.
So..........how do you prove citizenship? How would you if you were asked to?
How would you prove it?
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How would you prove it?
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Re: How would you prove it?
I fit the profile of a US citizen, so I'm not worried about being pulled over for citizenship issues...
Not when the cop's busy busting my ass for driving 55 in a school zone...
Not when the cop's busy busting my ass for driving 55 in a school zone...
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Re: How would you prove it?
Why would I ever have to prove my citizenship???
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Re: How would you prove it?
Col Hogan wrote:Why would I ever have to prove my citizenship???
If yer pulled over by the police in Arizona
You might pass for Canadian
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Re: How would you prove it?
I thought you supported the Arizona law...Col Hogan wrote:Why would I ever have to prove my citizenship???
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Re: How would you prove it?
Not the good Colonel.OSBF wrote:Col Hogan wrote:Why would I ever have to prove my citizenship???
If yer pulled over by the police in Arizona
You might pass for Canadian
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Re: How would you prove it?
100%dbackjon wrote:I thought you supported the Arizona law...Col Hogan wrote:Why would I ever have to prove my citizenship???
Are you telling me the law looks at citizenship status...not immigration status???
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Re: How would you prove it?
Because, you Puerto Rican bastard.Col Hogan wrote:Why would I ever have to prove my citizenship???
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Re: How would you prove it?
That's Mister to you...AZGrizFan wrote:Because, you Puerto Rican bastard.Col Hogan wrote:Why would I ever have to prove my citizenship???
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Re: How would you prove it?
So you are a citizen. how do you prove that you are a citizen, not an immigrant??Col Hogan wrote:100%dbackjon wrote:
I thought you supported the Arizona law...
Are you telling me the law looks at citizenship status...not immigration status???
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Re: How would you prove it?
OK, how would you prove you are a legal resident?Col Hogan wrote:100%dbackjon wrote:
I thought you supported the Arizona law...
Are you telling me the law looks at citizenship status...not immigration status???
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Re: How would you prove it?
Again, if stopped by an Arizona LEO once the law goes into effect, will he he/she have the authority to check my citizenship status...or immigration status???dbackjon wrote:So you are a citizen. how do you prove that you are a citizen, not an immigrant??Col Hogan wrote:
100%
Are you telling me the law looks at citizenship status...not immigration status???
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Re: How would you prove it?
Col Hogan wrote:That's Mister to you...AZGrizFan wrote:
Because, you Puerto Rican bastard.
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Re: How would you prove it?
Stop deflecting. Just directly answer the question, how would you prove that you are either a citizen or legal resident?Col Hogan wrote:Again, if stopped by an Arizona LEO once the law goes into effect, will he he/she have the authority to check my citizenship status...or immigration status???dbackjon wrote:
So you are a citizen. how do you prove that you are a citizen, not an immigrant??
Could you? Could any of us do it quickly and easily?
Something to think about.
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If you really don't understand the difference between the two...how the hell can I answer the question???OSBF wrote:Stop deflecting. Just directly answer the question, how would you prove that you are either a citizen or legal resident?Col Hogan wrote:
Again, if stopped by an Arizona LEO once the law goes into effect, will he he/she have the authority to check my citizenship status...or immigration status???
Could you? Could any of us do it quickly and easily?
Something to think about.
No deflection...tell me what the Arizona LEO will check, and I'll answer the question...
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Re: How would you prove it?
Again, for the purposes of this law, if they suspect you are illegal, how do you, a citizen, prove that you are NOT. You can't prove that you are a LEGAL immigrant, because you are a citizen. Therefore, you would have to prove your CITIZENSHIP.Col Hogan wrote:Again, if stopped by an Arizona LEO once the law goes into effect, will he he/she have the authority to check my citizenship status...or immigration status???dbackjon wrote:
So you are a citizen. how do you prove that you are a citizen, not an immigrant??
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Re: How would you prove it?
I'll type slower this time...............Col Hogan wrote:If you really don't understand the difference between the two...how the hell can I answer the question???OSBF wrote:
Stop deflecting. Just directly answer the question, how would you prove that you are either a citizen or legal resident?
Could you? Could any of us do it quickly and easily?
Something to think about.
No deflection...tell me what the Arizona LEO will check, and I'll answer the question...
If you were asked to prove that you are either a US citizen or a legal resident alien, could you do so?
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Re: How would you prove it?
LEGAL immigrants can very easily prove their status...the have a passport, with the appropriate visas...if they are working, they have a green card...students have a student visa...and if they are not carrying their passport, they are in violation of their status until they can produce it...dbackjon wrote:Again, for the purposes of this law, if they suspect you are illegal, how do you, a citizen, prove that you are NOT. You can't prove that you are a LEGAL immigrant, because you are a citizen. Therefore, you would have to prove your CITIZENSHIP.Col Hogan wrote:
Again, if stopped by an Arizona LEO once the law goes into effect, will he he/she have the authority to check my citizenship status...or immigration status???
Me...I simply say to the officer "Porqué es usted que molesta yo, vato" as I hand him my military ID...
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Re: How would you prove it?
And your wife? How does she prove it?Col Hogan wrote:LEGAL immigrants can very easily prove their status...the have a passport, with the appropriate visas...if they are working, they have a green card...students have a student visa...and if they are not carrying their passport, they are in violation of their status until they can produce it...dbackjon wrote:
Again, for the purposes of this law, if they suspect you are illegal, how do you, a citizen, prove that you are NOT. You can't prove that you are a LEGAL immigrant, because you are a citizen. Therefore, you would have to prove your CITIZENSHIP.
Me...I simply say to the officer "Porqué es usted que molesta yo, vato" as I hand him my military ID...
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If she's deported he simply gets a new one - lots of hot young models for a studly guy like Hogan to check out...dbackjon wrote:And your wife? How does she prove it?Col Hogan wrote:
LEGAL immigrants can very easily prove their status...the have a passport, with the appropriate visas...if they are working, they have a green card...students have a student visa...and if they are not carrying their passport, they are in violation of their status until they can produce it...
Me...I simply say to the officer "Porqué es usted que molesta yo, vato" as I hand him my military ID...
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Re: How would you prove it?
She pulls out her military dependents ID that has my name and ssan on it and hands it to the officer...dbackjon wrote:And your wife? How does she prove it?Col Hogan wrote:
LEGAL immigrants can very easily prove their status...the have a passport, with the appropriate visas...if they are working, they have a green card...students have a student visa...and if they are not carrying their passport, they are in violation of their status until they can produce it...
Me...I simply say to the officer "Porqué es usted que molesta yo, vato" as I hand him my military ID...
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Re: How would you prove it?
Damn it rob...I told you not to talk about that here...Rob Iola wrote:Which one?dbackjon wrote:
And your wife? How does she prove it?
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Re: How would you prove it?
I would slip the cop a five dollar bill and then say:
"Officer, I swear that I am a US Citizen. Mr. Lincoln agrees, and he's never told a lie."
"Officer, I swear that I am a US Citizen. Mr. Lincoln agrees, and he's never told a lie."
Re: How would you prove it?
Um, that's simple.OSBF wrote:Stop deflecting. Just directly answer the question, how would you prove that you are either a citizen or legal resident?Col Hogan wrote:
Again, if stopped by an Arizona LEO once the law goes into effect, will he he/she have the authority to check my citizenship status...or immigration status???
Could you? Could any of us do it quickly and easily?
Something to think about.
According to the AZ law, if you produce a valid drivers license, you are automatically assumed to the a legal resident.
End of discussion.