WAC Has its eye on 5 or 6 FCS Teams

[AZGrizFan]

Spain?

Jealous...

Hey, you're going to freaking CUBA!! How many Americans can say that?

All 12 that WANT to say that.

[Grizalltheway]

Hey, you're going to freaking CUBA!! How many Americans can say that?

All 12 that WANT to say that.

I'm sure most people wouldn't want to live there, but it would be one hell of a cool place to visit. Whether you like it or not.

[FargoBison]

If the WAC wanted it could expand and be a very respectable research/academic conference and add some strong athletic programs to the mix as well...

East
NMSU $138,427,000 in research per NSF in 2008
Montana State 120,155,000
NDSU 115,513,000
Idaho 81,532,000
Montana 58,032,000
La Tech 19,406,000

West
UCD $642,519,000
Hawaii 271,835,000
USU 146,128,000
Nevada 102,073,000
SJSU 38,521,000
Fresno 7,967,000

Or it could go slumming
Sac State $4,386,000

[mainejeff]

If the WAC wanted it could expand and be a very respectable research/academic conference and add some strong athletic programs to the mix as well...

East
NMSU $138,427,000 in research per NSF in 2008
Montana State 120,155,000
NDSU 115,513,000
Idaho 81,532,000
Montana 58,032,000
La Tech 19,406,000

West
UCD $642,519,000
Hawaii 271,835,000
USD 146,128,000
Nevada 102,073,000
SJSU 38,521,000
Fresno 7,967,000

Or it could go slumming
Sac State $4,386,000

You can get rid of Louisiana Tech and Fresno State for sure.

[FargoBison]

If the WAC wanted it could expand and be a very respectable research/academic conference and add some strong athletic programs to the mix as well...

East
NMSU $138,427,000 in research per NSF in 2008
Montana State 120,155,000
NDSU 115,513,000
Idaho 81,532,000
Montana 58,032,000
La Tech 19,406,000

West
UCD $642,519,000
Hawaii 271,835,000
USD 146,128,000
Nevada 102,073,000
SJSU 38,521,000
Fresno 7,967,000

Or it could go slumming
Sac State $4,386,000

You can get rid of Louisiana Tech and Fresno State for sure.

Replace them with Cal Poly and Denver. Now it is even stronger academically.

[dbackjon]

That is all at Sac State and Fresno? Even NAU is close to $30 Million

[FargoBison]

That is all at Sac State and Fresno? Even NAU is close to $30 Million

Yep.....

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[Fresno St. Alum]

I don't know or care what those #s are about but in athletic budgets Fresno was 28,806,348 * * * 26,658,072 * * * NCAA Division I-A * * * * * * * * * * * California State University-Fresno, and cleared over 2 Million most just break even. endowment is $91.4 Million

[CatMom]

A few weeks back the WAC commish had a teleconference with some sports guy/show. He mentioned TXST as a team they have, at least, looked at/conferred with. I'll try to pull up the link to it from BCF.

[SDHornet]

If the WAC wanted it could expand and be a very respectable research/academic conference and add some strong athletic programs to the mix as well...

East
NMSU $138,427,000 in research per NSF in 2008
Montana State 120,155,000
NDSU 115,513,000
Idaho 81,532,000
Montana 58,032,000
La Tech 19,406,000

West
UCD $642,519,000
Hawaii 271,835,000
USU 146,128,000
Nevada 102,073,000
SJSU 38,521,000
Fresno 7,967,000

Or it could go slumming
Sac State $4,386,000

Fortunately for NDSU, the research monies at said universities are the driving force behind the TV contracts.

[Fresno St. Alum]

PS CSUs are teacher colleges and UCs are for research. CA set it up that way for a reason.

[FargoBison]

I don't know or care what those #s are about but in athletic budgets Fresno was 27th or 28th in the country and cleared over 2 Million most just break even. endowment is $91.4 Million

That is research $$$, which is something presidents value. That said, Fresno is definitely well supported in terms athletic budget and has a solid athletic history. If you are teacher college that makes it even more impressive.

[SDHornet]

PS CSUs are teacher colleges and UCs are for research. CA set it up that way for a reason.

Sssshhhh...don't let that secret out of the bag...who am i kidding, you hit the nail right on the head.

[CatMom]

A few weeks back the WAC commish had a teleconference with some sports guy/show. He mentioned TXST as a team they have, at least, looked at/conferred with. I'll try to pull up the link to it from BCF.

It's from May 21st

http://www.sportscollision.com/2010/05/ ... expansion/

[SDHornet]

I don't know or care what those #s are about but in athletic budgets Fresno was 27th or 28th in the country and cleared over 2 Million most just break even. endowment is $91.4 Million

That is research $$$, which is something presidents value. That said, Fresno is definitely well supported in terms athletic budget and has a solid athletic history.

I have no doubt presidents at research institutions value that, I just don't see how that will determine whether or not a school is invited to the WAC.

[FargoBison]

If the WAC wanted it could expand and be a very respectable research/academic conference and add some strong athletic programs to the mix as well...

East
NMSU $138,427,000 in research per NSF in 2008
Montana State 120,155,000
NDSU 115,513,000
Idaho 81,532,000
Montana 58,032,000
La Tech 19,406,000

West
UCD $642,519,000
Hawaii 271,835,000
USU 146,128,000
Nevada 102,073,000
SJSU 38,521,000
Fresno 7,967,000

Or it could go slumming
Sac State $4,386,000

Fortunately for NDSU, the research monies at said universities are the driving force behind the TV contracts.

680 fans at men's basketball games also won't get you very far when it comes to TV.

[SDHornet]

680 fans at men's basketball games also won't get you very far when it comes to TV.

And neither will the Fargo TV market.

[Fresno St. Alum]

A few weeks back the WAC commish had a teleconference with some sports guy/show. He mentioned TXST as a team they have, at least, looked at/conferred with. I'll try to pull up the link to it from BCF.

It's from May 21st

http://www.sportscollision.com/2010/05/ ... expansion/

Technically you guys are the most ready right now. Even Montana needs to add 2 sports and reconsider a fee hike they turned down. We could be seeing you soon. Timing is everything.

[Fresno St. Alum]

That is research $$$, which is something presidents value. That said, Fresno is definitely well supported in terms athletic budget and has a solid athletic history.

I have no doubt presidents at research institutions value that, I just don't see how that will determine whether or not a school is invited to the WAC.

It won't .SJSU, Fresno St. are CSUs like CP and Sac St. Their votes would go to their sister schools. This aint the Big 10 or Pac 10. It's the Big West/Big Sky circa 2010

[SDHornet]

It's from May 21st

http://www.sportscollision.com/2010/05/ ... expansion/

Technically you guys are the most ready right now. Even Montana needs to add 2 sports and reconsider a fee hike they turned down. We could be seeing you soon. Timing is everything.

I agree. My questions is if La Tech leaves, would the current WAC members support this? Obviously if staying afloat is the priority then yes, but geographically speaking will the current member schools want to continue to travel that far east?

[SDHornet]

I have no doubt presidents at research institutions value that, I just don't see how that will determine whether or not a school is invited to the WAC.

It won't .SJSU, Fresno St. are CSUs like CP and Sac St. Their votes would go to their sister schools. This aint the Big 10 or Pac 10. It's the Big West/Big Sky circa 2010

I didn't think so either.

[dbackjon]

Technically you guys are the most ready right now. Even Montana needs to add 2 sports and reconsider a fee hike they turned down. We could be seeing you soon. Timing is everything.

I agree. My questions is if La Tech leaves, would the current WAC members support this? Obviously if staying afloat is the priority then yes, but geographically speaking will the current member schools want to continue to travel that far east?

Unless they invite both UTSA and Texas State - schools 50 miles apart.

[FargoBison]

680 fans at men's basketball games also won't get you very far when it comes to TV.

And neither will the Fargo TV market.

Keep in mind I have UCD in this conference scenario to get the Sac market. The entire point was to make it an elite group of research institutions, since the majority of WAC schools are research institutions.

Fargo's TV market isn't great but NDSU brings the state plus part of MN.

[Fresno St. Alum]

Technically you guys are the most ready right now. Even Montana needs to add 2 sports and reconsider a fee hike they turned down. We could be seeing you soon. Timing is everything.

I agree. My questions is if La Tech leaves, would the current WAC members support this? Obviously if staying afloat is the priority then yes, but geographically speaking will the current member schools want to continue to travel that far east?

Yes! 7 members= not a conference, 8=WAC still a conference. They'd add Alaska-Fairbanks if they had too

[SDHornet]

And neither will the Fargo TV market.

Keep in mind I have UCD in this conference scenario to get the Sac market. The entire point was to make it an elite group of research institutions, since the majority of WAC schools are research institutions.

Fargo's TV market isn't great but NDSU brings the state plus part of MN.

"the farm extension" would need an immediate stadium expansion to at least get its stadium to 16k capacity. True, they will bring some of the Sac TV market but how much of that market they bring will be the question. I'd love for both Sac State and "the farm extension" to get invited.