Chizzang wrote:
First of all you didn't even know who the guy was until yesterday... (period)
You called him Hitchings or some odd thing.
Really? As usual, you don't have a clue. I've been reading selected works from the guy for years (probably more and longer than you). I've read works from him and Christopher HITCHINGS. Do you even know who he is, or is he "some odd thing" to you? I said Hitchings instead of Hedges, big fvcking deal. Both share the same philosophy and the same first name, shit happens, get over it.
Cleets wrote:Second..
He's not a socialist, but I wouldn't expect you to actually "get the point"
When Hedges states:
"We will either find our way out of this mess by embracing an uncompromising democratic socialism—one that will insist on massive government relief and work programs, the nationalization of electricity and gas companies, a universal, not-for-profit government health care program, the outlawing of hedge funds, a radical reduction of our bloated military budget and an end to imperial wars—or we will continue to be fleeced and impoverished by our bankrupt elite and shackled and chained by our surveillance state."
He also called free market capitalism a "con game". Sorry, you can't have it both ways.
I definitely "get the point", but just like always, you swing and miss.
Cleets wrote:Was Orwell a socialist..?
So now we can dismiss anything he says right..?
Hedges has written thousands of pages about our political system but just one article "why he's a socialist" where he references Orwell... and makes some Orwellian points
Hmmmm. Instead of guessing if Orwell was a socialist or not, lets take a look at his words and see for ourselves.
The Spanish war and other events in 1936-37 turned the scale and thereafter I knew where I stood. Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it.
"I have seen wonderful things and at last really believe in Socialism, which I never did before".
Orwell certainly wasn't a Bolshevik, but it's apparent that he was a believer in socialist policies. Then again, I might just not "get it"
Cleets wrote:He wrote the "why I'm a socialist" buried among dozens of other articles before and after that were about all kinds of things - and - ever since been called a socialist when he's explained over and over again it's an article designed to make a point... not a declaration
He also wrote a book about atheists that had to be re-titled because it confused people... not people who read the book but book reviewers (people like you) who take a lifetime of work and distill it down to a paragraph and think they know something
Yes, I imagine the editorial board of the New York Times didn't "get it" either.
Sure, Cleets. he wants the nationalization of the oil industry, health care, public utilities, the outlawing of certain legal free market investment options, etc. yet, he isn't a socialist just a "complex" guy.
Cleets wrote:he scares the sh!t out of people like you because he's seen more and done more in his life than you'll ever even be able to imagine... so now he's "A Socialist" which will allow you to dismiss him and go back to Fox Radio
No, what scares the sh!t out of people like me are the ignorant sheep like you who continuously ignore the 800 lb gorilla in the room. The fools who claim to think that the government is beholden to those so-called "evil" Wall Street corporations. The mental midgets who are too enamored by "complex" idiots like Hedges AND HITCHENS (check out the guy, you would LOVE him).
My turn, here is a tip for you:
Step out of your little "progressive" Utopia and educate yourself.
Not everyone who disagrees with Obama is a racist.
Corporations aren't the "boogeyman".
And don't let guys like Hedges think for you. Be original.
Do me a favor, when you get back to the "anti-corporatist" bunker, tell Ed Schultz and Olberman to go fvck themselves.
you're killing me over here..
