The Liberty Low-Down

[From the class of 09]

I’ve heard some complaints that none of the LU posters do anything but post in the game thread and that you don’t know anything about Liberty (except that it’s Falwells school).

Well the reason most of you haven't heard about Liberty (at least not in the football world) is because our football program has been rather irrelevant until our current coach Danny Rocco moved to town. Since then we have won the last 3 Big South Championships and when we do it again this year it will give us an auto-qualifier for the post season (most of you probably knew that but just to make sure).

With this success the school has increased it financial support to football. We recently completed a new 48,000 square-foot Football Operations Building in ’06 and are currently in the process of expanding our stadium. This includes a 34,000 square-foot press box with 16 suits (to be completed by this fall). The plan is too increase the stadiums overall capacity to 30k in the next 5 years.

Needless to say LU while a relatively new school (it was just founded in 1971) is definitely on the rise in the FCS division and you will continue to hear more from us in the future.

GO LU!!!

[Silenoz]

Just make sure to bid high if you make the playoffs so you don't get shipped to App or whichever CAA team is seeded

[dbackjon]

Welcome!! The more the merrier.

[kuntryboimike]

Just make sure to bid high if you make the playoffs so you don't get shipped to App or whichever CAA team is seeded

i think the only way to get a high bid is to beat BOTH Ball St AND JMU. If we beat one of them i think we'll be in the middle somewhere. if we lose to both i fear we're doomed for a CAA team in the first round.

[93henfan]

I’ve heard some complaints that none of the LU posters do anything but post in the game thread and that you don’t know anything about Liberty (except it’s that Farwell school).

Well the reason most of you haven't heard about Liberty (at least not in the football world) is because our football program has been rather irrelevant until our current coach Danny Rocco moved to town. Since then we have won the last 3 Big South Championships and when we do it again this year it will give us an auto-qualifier for the post season (most of you probably knew that but just to make sure).

With this success the school has increased it financial support to football. We recently completed a new 48,000 square-foot Football Operations Building in ’06 and are currently in the process of expanding our stadium. This includes a 34,000 square-foot press box with 16 suits (to be completed by this fall). The plan is too increase the stadiums overall capacity to 30k in the next 5 years.

Needless to say LU while a relatively new school (it was just founded in 1971) is definitely on the rise in the FCS division and you will continue to hear more from us in the future.

GO LU!!!

What, do you think we're all fucking clueless on this site? We're well aware of Liberty football and have been for years. It's great that you're getting better and finally built some infrastructure for your football team. That doesn't mean we're all going to bow down and anoint you to any special place in the FCS world. Win a championship or two and you'll gain some respect.

[SuperHornet]

Mike:

That's not what he was saying. The "bid" isn't a seed. It's just what it says: a playoff-bound school bids a certain amount of money to the NCAA for the privilege of hosting a game. Most of the tournament entrants are NOT seeded (unlike hoops) and can get sent just about ANYWHERE. The committee tries to regionalize the brackets somewhat, but the money bid also factors into that. That makes for a real danger for a school like Liberty, which could EASILY get sent to App when straight seeding would have them play, oh, say, Weber.

Ursus and the others feel free to correct any of this. I think I have it at least mostly right, though. Unless there's going to be a major overhaul with the additional seeds.

[DukeJack]

Just make sure to bid high if you make the playoffs so you don't get shipped to App or whichever CAA team is seeded

i think the only way to get a high bid is to beat BOTH Ball St AND JMU. If we beat one of them i think we'll be in the middle somewhere. if we lose to both i fear we're doomed for a CAA team in the first round.

What SH said. The top four teams are seeded, and the other matchups are determined by region and the school that hosts is the one who gives the NCAA the bigger bid between the two in that matchup.

But I will say you are "doomed" for a CAA school or App St in the first round, the geography screws you. It just comes down to how badly does Liberty want a home field?

[kuntryboimike]

Mike:

That's not what he was saying. The "bid" isn't a seed. It's just what it says: a playoff-bound school bids a certain amount of money to the NCAA for the privilege of hosting a game. Most of the tournament entrants are NOT seeded (unlike hoops) and can get sent just about ANYWHERE. The committee tries to regionalize the brackets somewhat, but the money bid also factors into that. That makes for a real danger for a school like Liberty, which could EASILY get sent to App when straight seeding would have them play, oh, say, Weber.

Ursus and the others feel free to correct any of this. I think I have it at least mostly right, though. Unless there's going to be a major overhaul with the additional seeds.

OHHHH i learn something new every day! thanks! obviously im still learning how it all goes down.

[citdog]

liberty is a cult of personality built around the bigot and charlatan "preacher" jerry falwell. all libertyites can go screw ham's wife.

[kuntryboimike]

i think the only way to get a high bid is to beat BOTH Ball St AND JMU. If we beat one of them i think we'll be in the middle somewhere. if we lose to both i fear we're doomed for a CAA team in the first round.

What SH said. The top four teams are seeded, and the other matchups are determined by region and the school that hosts is the one who gives the NCAA the bigger bid between the two in that matchup.

But I will say you are "doomed" for a CAA school or App St in the first round, the geography screws you. It just comes down to how badly does Liberty want a home field?

as much as id love to see liberty have a home game i dont see it happening iin there first ever playoff appearance. itll be fun and a learning experience either way

[kuntryboimike]

liberty is a cult of personality built around the bigot and charlatan "preacher" jerry falwell. all libertyites can go screw ham's wife.

oh really? i guess youve met all the liberty students throughout the years. cuz we're all exactly the same GET REAL!

[citdog]

liberty is a cult of personality built around the bigot and charlatan "preacher" jerry falwell. all libertyites can go screw ham's wife.

oh really? i guess youve met all the liberty students throughout the years. cuz we're all exactly the same GET REAL!

whatever you say buddy. perhaps when fred phelps starts a college you'll enroll there too.

[Fred Phelps]

oh really? i guess youve met all the liberty students throughout the years. cuz we're all exactly the same GET REAL!

whatever you say buddy. perhaps when fred phelps starts a college you'll enroll there too.

Well hello my fellow son of the Confederacy!

I spoke with Rev Falwell about a partnership before he passed away. We both agreed that God hate fags. We also agreed that America deserved 9/11. I couldn't get him to agree with the funeral protests and incest though. I always admired his fundraising and political meddling. That boy had charisma. The only people I can get to follow me are my family, motorcyclists and cops.

[kuntryboimike]

whatever you say buddy. perhaps when fred phelps starts a college you'll enroll there too.

Well hello my fellow son of the Confederacy!

I spoke with Rev Falwell about a partnership before he passed away. We both agreed that God hate fags. We also agreed that America deserved 9/11. I couldn't get him to agree with the funeral protests and incest though. I always admired his fundraising and political meddling. That boy had charisma. The only people I can get to follow me are my family, motorcyclists and cops.

i am a soldier u sick son a of gun! i cant believe anyone would follow you PERIOD. this is where i practice controlling my tongue...

[Fred Phelps]

Well hello my fellow son of the Confederacy!

I spoke with Rev Falwell about a partnership before he passed away. We both agreed that God hate fags. We also agreed that America deserved 9/11. I couldn't get him to agree with the funeral protests and incest though. I always admired his fundraising and political meddling. That boy had charisma. The only people I can get to follow me are my family, motorcyclists and cops.

i am a soldier u sick son a of gun! i cant believe anyone would follow you PERIOD. this is where i practice controlling my tongue...

Fred Phelps wasn't invited to this site. Fred Phelps can see he touched a nerve. This will be Fred Phelps' last post on this site.

Mr. Moderator, please delete this account. Fred Phelps will stick to aggravating the hell out of the rest of the country and leave this poor website alone.

Before Fred Phelps leaves, would anyone like to buy some cheap Viagra, Levitra or Cialis? Shoot Fred Phelps a PM if so.

Go with God. Don't take any wooden nickels. If your woman speaks up, throw her a beating. Fred Phelps out.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Mike:

That's not what he was saying. The "bid" isn't a seed. It's just what it says: a playoff-bound school bids a certain amount of money to the NCAA for the privilege of hosting a game. Most of the tournament entrants are NOT seeded (unlike hoops) and can get sent just about ANYWHERE. The committee tries to regionalize the brackets somewhat, but the money bid also factors into that. That makes for a real danger for a school like Liberty, which could EASILY get sent to App when straight seeding would have them play, oh, say, Weber.

Ursus and the others feel free to correct any of this. I think I have it at least mostly right, though. Unless there's going to be a major overhaul with the additional seeds.

Nice work there SH. You got it pretty nailed down. The reason that Liberty could very easily get a home game in the first round is that if they are not paired with a JMU, App, or Delaware they have a real chance of outbidding whoever they are paired with. Even JMU has been pretty tight on the purse strings.

The seeds will not be playing in the opening round so that is the only way they wouldn't have a chance because the bid wouldn't matter if they are paired with a seed.

If they get to the playoffs and get the right bracket and the right opponents (Cheap bidders) then they have a chance to have more than one home game.

I'm pretty excited to see the NEC and Big South in the playoffs this year and see what happens.

[jcmanson]

It's sad that you can't even come on a site like this to discuss football.

[clenz]

It's sad that you can't even come on a site like this to discuss football.

Why can't you?

I see lots of football discussion

[citdog]

It's sad that you can't even come on a site like this to discuss football.

go eye socket fuck falwell's skull you bible toting religious fanatic

[citdog]

It's sad that you can't even come on a site like this to discuss football.

Why can't you?

I see lots of football discussion

and he ought to know. he's the Content Fuhrer

[Col Hogan]

I'm missing something in this thread...

When did the Big South become relevant???

[AppMan]

Good to see Liberty stepping up and joining the facilities arms race. The Flames, JMU, Delaware, Jax State, ODU, Ga State playing in the Dome, and my Mountaineers are beginning to separate themselves from the crowd on the Atlantic Seaboard. Looking for that 8th school to step up and bring a new conference closer to reality.

[BDKJMU]

Just make sure to bid high if you make the playoffs so you don't get shipped to App or whichever CAA team is seeded

Bids don't come into play until after the pairings are made. If LU wins the Big South AQ what they bid will have zero bearing on whether or not they are paired with a seeded ASU or seeded CAA.

[Seawolf97]

Good to see the season is over 7 weeks before the first game . Whatever the Liberty fans smoke seems to work for them

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Just make sure to bid high if you make the playoffs so you don't get shipped to App or whichever CAA team is seeded

Bids don't come into play until after the pairings are made. If LU wins the Big Sky AQ what they bid will have zero bearing on whether or not they are paired with a seeded ASU or seeded CAA.

I thought the seeds have the first weekend off this year?