Am I the only one...

[mrklean]

warning.........rant about to commence...........


JESUS **** CHRIST

the god damn **** conservative mother **** retards keep finding new ways to piss me off and prove that they are either retarded or give a **** about anyone other than themselves about as much as a eunuch cares about pussy

NEWS FLASH.................

people are neither poor nor un-employed nor under-employed because they either want to be or choose to be

GET THE **** OFF YOUR **** HIGH HORSE HUMPING THE **** SOAPBOX

take a look in that stupid ass book you revel in cramming down peoples throats and actually pay attention to what it says about looking down your nose with such dis-respect and contempt for those that have less than you do

try reading it and actually paying some attention to it sometime

stupid ass mother **** never will get over themselves long enough to actually give even one tiny little sticky brown cheek nugget about anyone else

rant over

NEWSFLASH- your wrong. There is a good chunk among those unemployed who WILL NOT GET A JOB PERIOD AS LONG AS THEY ARE BEING PAID UNEMPLOYMENT.

News FLASH, no one is getting Rich off unemployment. The highest you can get paid is $350.00 a week. That's $1400/month, GOD forbid if he/she is the single provider for the family. I had a friend who was laid off for 1 1/2. He just found a job last May. Life can be a Bitch at times.

[kalm]

And I'm ok with that notion too as long as tax increases are on the board as well. Case in point, prior to 9/11 and regardless of what anyone personally thought was worthy of funding, we agreed on a budget that funded the government to a certain level. Then came two wars, Hurricane Katrina, etc while we were cutting taxes.

Just like with increased spending, it don't add it up.

And I've said many times that a major mistake Bush made was running the wars on a credit card, rather than paying for it with taxes...and war bonds...and any other creative way to raise the money needed...

Yea...he started us down a crap hole of debt...the current Congress and administration are taking it to a new low, though...

Which might indicate that neither one of us should vote for either party.

[bobbythekidd]

26 weeks is long enough. Half a year to find a new job is fair enough. There are jobs out there...maybe not the best jobs, but jobs are available. If unemployed people think the "community" owes it to them to pay them until they find a job that agrees with their preferred spending levels, then they are part of the problem and not the solution.

If you have a job, and you aren't stocking away money for a rainy day, then you are living beyond your means. If you don't make much but have spent your money on a big screen TVs, cable with all of the movie channels, beer, cigarettes, etc, and you have no savings off which to draw during hard times, then YOU have failed basic money management and you deserve to flounder until you find a better way of doing things. Why make other people pay for your lifestyle choices?

When did it become shameful to live with your parents until you had enough saved to make it on your own? When did it become shameful to live within your means...so shameful that we needed to bloat up government and tax our children's futures to support a soft generation of leeches?

Hell, let's make it a human right to have a 5 bedroom, 3 bath home on the waterfront...and once you reach a certain income level, you can't be forced to take anything less because it would hurt your ego.

99 weeks? Are you kidding?

Is that addressed to me?

[YoUDeeMan]

26 weeks is long enough. Half a year to find a new job is fair enough. There are jobs out there...maybe not the best jobs, but jobs are available. If unemployed people think the "community" owes it to them to pay them until they find a job that agrees with their preferred spending levels, then they are part of the problem and not the solution.

If you have a job, and you aren't stocking away money for a rainy day, then you are living beyond your means. If you don't make much but have spent your money on a big screen TVs, cable with all of the movie channels, beer, cigarettes, etc, and you have no savings off which to draw during hard times, then YOU have failed basic money management and you deserve to flounder until you find a better way of doing things. Why make other people pay for your lifestyle choices?

When did it become shameful to live with your parents until you had enough saved to make it on your own? When did it become shameful to live within your means...so shameful that we needed to bloat up government and tax our children's futures to support a soft generation of leeches?

Hell, let's make it a human right to have a 5 bedroom, 3 bath home on the waterfront...and once you reach a certain income level, you can't be forced to take anything less because it would hurt your ego.

99 weeks? Are you kidding?

Is that addressed to me?

No. Check the quotes...I was responding to mebison's question. 99 is ridiculous. You took a job that paid less...you were smart...and not a leech.

[YoUDeeMan]

NEWSFLASH- your wrong. There is a good chunk among those unemployed who WILL NOT GET A JOB PERIOD AS LONG AS THEY ARE BEING PAID UNEMPLOYMENT.

News FLASH, no one is getting Rich off unemployment. The highest you can get paid is $350.00 a week. That's $1400/month, GOD forbid if he/she is the single provider for the family. I had a friend who was laid off for 1 1/2. He just found a job last May. Life can be a Bitch at times.

Once again, that is not the point. Miminum wage is what, $7.75/hour. That is $310/week. People would rather take unemployment and have boatloads of time rather than take $150-$300 week on unemployment. Hell, they'd rather take their unemployment rather than take a $35-$40K per year job.

[Gil Dobie]

News FLASH, no one is getting Rich off unemployment. The highest you can get paid is $350.00 a week. That's $1400/month, GOD forbid if he/she is the single provider for the family. I had a friend who was laid off for 1 1/2. He just found a job last May. Life can be a Bitch at times.

Once again, that is not the point. Miminum wage is what, $7.75/hour. That is $310/week. People would rather take unemployment and have boatloads of time rather than take $150-$300 week on unemployment. Hell, they'd rather take their unemployment rather than take a $35-$40K per year job.

Kind of lumping everyone in one group. Most of the newly unemployed during this recession have been working their buns off looking for work and training into new diciplines. The most difficult group to get jobs are the 50+ with 20+ years of experience, and are willing to work for minimum wage. It takes longer when you are in that age group just from the false impressions of the hiring companies. These people are willing to work hard, no kids at home to chase to school and sports events etc. Just your loss I guess.

[Col Hogan]

NEWSFLASH- your wrong. There is a good chunk among those unemployed who WILL NOT GET A JOB PERIOD AS LONG AS THEY ARE BEING PAID UNEMPLOYMENT.

News FLASH, no one is getting Rich off unemployment. The highest you can get paid is $350.00 a week. That's $1400/month, GOD forbid if he/she is the single provider for the family. I had a friend who was laid off for 1 1/2. He just found a job last May. Life can be a Bitch at times.

NEWSFLASH, DUDE.....

No one said anyone would "get rich" on unemployment...

[mrklean]

Once again, that is not the point. Miminum wage is what, $7.75/hour. That is $310/week. People would rather take unemployment and have boatloads of time rather than take $150-$300 week on unemployment. Hell, they'd rather take their unemployment rather than take a $35-$40K per year job.

Kind of lumping everyone in one group. Most of the newly unemployed during this recession have been working their buns off looking for work and training into new diciplines. The most difficult group to get jobs are the 50+ with 20+ years of experience, and are willing to work for minimum wage. It takes longer when you are in that age group just from the false impressions of the hiring companies. These people are willing to work hard, no kids at home to chase to school and sports events etc. Just your loss I guess.

How many people are willing to hire a 50+ to work at Burger King??

[kalm]

Kind of lumping everyone in one group. Most of the newly unemployed during this recession have been working their buns off looking for work and training into new diciplines. The most difficult group to get jobs are the 50+ with 20+ years of experience, and are willing to work for minimum wage. It takes longer when you are in that age group just from the false impressions of the hiring companies. These people are willing to work hard, no kids at home to chase to school and sports events etc. Just your loss I guess.

How many people are willing to hire a 50+ to work at Burger King??

I would. More reliable, less chance of showing up with a hangover, etc.

[mrklean]

How many people are willing to hire a 50+ to work at Burger King??

I would. More reliable, less chance of showing up with a hangover, etc.

OK, Iets get real, who will hire a 50+ man with MBA and CPA as a Burger Cook at Burger King. Lets get real. It ain't happening

Case in Point, I have a good friend(42) who is a Golf Pro. When the Economy was good he made over 100k a year. Now he makes less than 24k a year. Hes has a Second Job as a Security Officer at a hospital making 9.00 /Hr. The only way he got that job was because I talked to the Director of Security at the Hospital. He told me that he does not hire guys with a college degree because they will quit as soon as they get another good job. Now this is the problem. People have boat loads of experience and education and they use it against you.

[kalm]

I would. More reliable, less chance of showing up with a hangover, etc.

OK, Iets get real, who will hire a 50+ man with MBA and CPA as a Burger Cook at Burger King. Lets get real. It ain't happening

Case in Point, I have a good friend(42) who is a Golf Pro. When the Economy was good he made over 100k a year. Now he makes less than 24k a year. Hes has a Second Job as a Security Officer at a hospital making 9.00 /Hr. The only way he got that job was because I talked to the Director of Security at the Hospital. He told me that he does not hire guys with a college degree because they will quit as soon as they get another good job. Now this is the problem. People have boat loads of experience and education and they use it against you.

Good point about the turnover thing. But then again, I'd imagine that's a tendency for many minimum wage paying businesses. It might be better to have an OQ employee for a few months than not. And if your friend had been hired just after the start of the recession, they would have potentially had his services for a couple of years now.

I hire at minimum wage quite often and I would have offered him a job.

[YoUDeeMan]

Kind of lumping everyone in one group. Most of the newly unemployed during this recession have been working their buns off looking for work and training into new diciplines. The most difficult group to get jobs are the 50+ with 20+ years of experience, and are willing to work for minimum wage. It takes longer when you are in that age group just from the false impressions of the hiring companies. These people are willing to work hard, no kids at home to chase to school and sports events etc. Just your loss I guess.

How many people are willing to hire a 50+ to work at Burger King??

Where do you live? Plenty of older folks working at those positions around here. They provide much better service than the young folks.

[BDKJMU]

News FLASH, no one is getting Rich off unemployment. The highest you can get paid is $350.00 a week. That's $1400/month, GOD forbid if he/she is the single provider for the family. I had a friend who was laid off for 1 1/2. He just found a job last May. Life can be a Bitch at times.

Once again, that is not the point. Miminum wage is what, $7.75/hour. That is $310/week. People would rather take unemployment and have boatloads of time rather than take $150-$300 week on unemployment. Hell, they'd rather take their unemployment rather than take a $35-$40K per year job.

Agreed, Cluck (although the fed minimum wage is $7.25 an hr, so $290 a week. In about 15 states its higher).

Your CLUELESS Kleanie. The maximum unemployment payment you can get paid ISN't $350 a week as you claim. While the national avg is $309 a week, the max weekly unemployment you can get paid is higher than $350 in 38 states. And these are from a Feb 09' article, so in some states they might have gone up:
1. Mass :$628
2. WA: $586
3. NJ: $584
4. Minn: $566
5. HI: $545
6. PA: $539
7. RI: $528
8. CT: $519
9. ME: $496
10: NC $494
11: OR: $482
12. CO: $475
13. NM $455
14. CA: $450
15. UT: $444
16. IA: $443
17. NH: $427
18. WV: $424
19. KS: $423
20. KY: $415
21. AR: $409
22. VT $409
23. MT: $407
24. NY: $405
25 OK: $392
26. IN: $390
27. WY: $387
28. IL: $385
29. ND: $385
30. MD: $380
31. VA: $378
32. TX: $378
33. OH: $372
34. AK: $370
35. MI: $365
36. WI: $363
37. ID: $362
38. NV: $362
39. DE: $330
40. GA: $330
41. SC: $326
42. MO: $320
43. NE: $308
44. SD: $285
45. LA: $284
46. FL: $275
47. TN: $275
48. AL: $255
49: AZ: $240
50. MS $230

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So Kleanie, quit making s*it up.

[kalm]

Once again, that is not the point. Miminum wage is what, $7.75/hour. That is $310/week. People would rather take unemployment and have boatloads of time rather than take $150-$300 week on unemployment. Hell, they'd rather take their unemployment rather than take a $35-$40K per year job.

Agreed, Cluck (although the fed minimum wage is $7.25 an hr, so $290 a week. In about 15 states its higher).

Your CLUELESS Kleanie. The maximum unemployment payment you can get paid ISN't $350 a week as you claim. While the national avg is $309 a week, the max weekly unemployment you can get paid is higher than $350 in 38 states. And these are from a Feb 09' article, so in some states they might have gone up:
1. Mass :$628
2. WA: $586
3. NJ: $584
4. Minn: $566
5. HI: $545
6. PA: $539
7. RI: $528
8. CT: $519
9. ME: $496
10: NC $494
11: OR: $482
12. CO: $475
13. NM $455
14. CA: $450
15. UT: $444
16. IA: $443
17. NH: $427
18. WV: $424
19. KS: $423
20. KY: $415
21. AR: $409
22. VT $409
23. MT: $407
24. NY: $405
25 OK: $392
26. IN: $390
27. WY: $387
28. IL: $385
29. ND: $385
30. MD: $380
31. VA: $378
32. TX: $378
33. OH: $372
34. AK: $370
35. MI: $365
36. WI: $363
37. ID: $362
38. NV: $362
39. DE: $330
40. GA: $330
41. SC: $326
42. MO: $320
43. NE: $308
44. SD: $285
45. LA: $284
46. FL: $275
47. TN: $275
48. AL: $255
49: AZ: $240
50. MS $230

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So Kleanie, quit making s*it up.

Woohoo! Our unemployed are the Bill Gates of the non-producers.

7 out of the bottom ten are southern states.

[SumItUp]

Hey Gil, I know this doesn't help you much in the present, but I heard a really interesting statistic this morning. The people who handle this sort of thing are predicting that there will be 950,000 new IT jobs created in the next 10 years, and there are only 400,000 people in the pipeline training for those jobs. So, if that's even remotely close to a valid estimate, your future should be looking pretty sweet. Doesn't help much in 2010, but hold on dude, the cavalry is coming.

Solution - India & China

[Gil Dobie]

Hey Gil, I know this doesn't help you much in the present, but I heard a really interesting statistic this morning. The people who handle this sort of thing are predicting that there will be 950,000 new IT jobs created in the next 10 years, and there are only 400,000 people in the pipeline training for those jobs. So, if that's even remotely close to a valid estimate, your future should be looking pretty sweet. Doesn't help much in 2010, but hold on dude, the cavalry is coming.

Solution - India & China

That's who already took my job. Showed up for work January 2nd after the Holiday's, and several people from an Indian Consulting firm were sitting in cubes. We had our entire group of 18 people outsourced. About 80% of the IT job recruiters that I talk to are from India. There is a fad withing the industries upper level management that they can save money by hiring off-shore consulting companies to come in and do the work. Target even went as far as starting their own off-shore company in India.

[From the class of 09]

OK, Iets get real, who will hire a 50+ man with MBA and CPA as a Burger Cook at Burger King. Lets get real. It ain't happening

Case in Point, I have a good friend(42) who is a Golf Pro. When the Economy was good he made over 100k a year. Now he makes less than 24k a year. Hes has a Second Job as a Security Officer at a hospital making 9.00 /Hr. The only way he got that job was because I talked to the Director of Security at the Hospital. He told me that he does not hire guys with a college degree because they will quit as soon as they get another good job. Now this is the problem. People have boat loads of experience and education and they use it against you.

Hold the phone... 1) Being a golf pro does not equal tons of experience or education. 2) If you can't find a job with an MBA and CPA you are either incompetent or lethargic or you’ve done something really dumb to make yourself unemployable (aka stole from a former boss).

That being said you just gave a perfect example of why unemployment benefits have no reason to be extended to 99 weeks. You golf pro friend is working two jobs sure it’s a pay cut but that’s life. I bet he wasn’t complaining when he was making 100k teaching golf. Part of enjoying the benefits of living in a capitalist economy is also dealing with the responsibilities.

[Gil Dobie]

Hold the phone... 1) Being a golf pro does not equal tons of experience or education. 2) If you can't find a job with an MBA and CPA you are either incompetent or lethargic or you’ve done something really dumb to make yourself unemployable (aka stole from a former boss).

That being said you just gave a perfect example of why unemployment benefits have no reason to be extended to 99 weeks. You golf pro friend is working two jobs sure it’s a pay cut but that’s life. I bet he wasn’t complaining when he was making 100k teaching golf. Part of enjoying the benefits of living in a capitalist economy is also dealing with the responsibilities.

I'm calling BS. I've had 20+ consecutive years of working, and it's not as black and white as you make it out to be. I've seen a lot of people that are incompetent and lethargic keep their jobs while perfectly good employees are let go. It's more of a who you know than what you know. I'm still doing my ebay thing, making more than UI or minimum, but getting back into IT at an entry level in a new technology with my resume has been difficult. My next step may be the the work for experience route.

[From the class of 09]

I'm calling BS. I've had 20+ consecutive years of working, and it's not as black and white as you make it out to be. I've seen a lot of people that are incompetent and lethargic keep their jobs while perfectly good employees are let go. It's more of a who you know than what you know. I'm still doing my ebay thing, making more than UI or minimum, but getting back into IT at an entry level in a new technology with my resume has been difficult. My next step may be the the work for experience route.

Again you’re proving my point, you're another perfect example of a success (self employment is no different than working for someone). You have been able to find another avenue to bring home the bacon via the eBay route. I’m not trying to say life is cake but if you’re willing to work you can be successful without 99 weeks of unemployment benefits. “Necessity is the mother of invention” when you give people an unearned check for 99 weeks that creates no necessity.

[BlueHen86]

I'm calling BS. I've had 20+ consecutive years of working, and it's not as black and white as you make it out to be. I've seen a lot of people that are incompetent and lethargic keep their jobs while perfectly good employees are let go. It's more of a who you know than what you know. I'm still doing my ebay thing, making more than UI or minimum, but getting back into IT at an entry level in a new technology with my resume has been difficult. My next step may be the the work for experience route.

Again you’re proving my point, you're another perfect example of a success (self employment is no different than working for someone). You have been able to find another avenue to bring home the bacon via the eBay route. I’m not trying to say life is cake but if you’re willing to work you can be successful without 99 weeks of unemployment benefits. “Necessity is the mother of invention” when you give people an unearned check for 99 weeks that creates no necessity.

That's horse shit. Unemployment pays a fraction of what you made before you were laid off. In most cases it is not enough to pay the bills. Finding a job is still a necessity.

[mrklean]

OK, Iets get real, who will hire a 50+ man with MBA and CPA as a Burger Cook at Burger King. Lets get real. It ain't happening

Case in Point, I have a good friend(42) who is a Golf Pro. When the Economy was good he made over 100k a year. Now he makes less than 24k a year. Hes has a Second Job as a Security Officer at a hospital making 9.00 /Hr. The only way he got that job was because I talked to the Director of Security at the Hospital. He told me that he does not hire guys with a college degree because they will quit as soon as they get another good job. Now this is the problem. People have boat loads of experience and education and they use it against you.

Hold the phone... 1) Being a golf pro does not equal tons of experience or education. 2) If you can't find a job with an MBA and CPA you are either incompetent or lethargic or you’ve done something really dumb to make yourself unemployable (aka stole from a former boss).

That being said you just gave a perfect example of why unemployment benefits have no reason to be extended to 99 weeks. You golf pro friend is working two jobs sure it’s a pay cut but that’s life. I bet he wasn’t complaining when he was making 100k teaching golf. Part of enjoying the benefits of living in a capitalist economy is also dealing with the responsibilities.

ALL I CAN SAY IS WOW! WHAT A SHIT AZZ STATEMENT

[From the class of 09]

Sometimes the truth hurts CPA & MBA you can find work, maybe not making 6 figures like you think you should but you can find work.

[death dealer]

Hey Gil, I know this doesn't help you much in the present, but I heard a really interesting statistic this morning. The people who handle this sort of thing are predicting that there will be 950,000 new IT jobs created in the next 10 years, and there are only 400,000 people in the pipeline training for those jobs. So, if that's even remotely close to a valid estimate, your future should be looking pretty sweet. Doesn't help much in 2010, but hold on dude, the cavalry is coming.

Solution - India & China

These are jobs in the U.S., so we'd have to import those workers, and the trend the last few years before the recession was repatriation among many foreign IT workers. They were going back home, where they could suddenly make a good living, and be back in their own country. So, If I'm unemployed and think I might want a change, I would be looking at IT as a serious field of study.

[death dealer]

Volunteered at the Free Clinic this morning. Has a patient who has been unemployed for quite awhile now. She was in finance, actually predatory payday lending. She was complaining about not being able to find work, and how unemployment was such a hassle with all the requirements. I told her about some opportunities I had heard about in a couple of manufacturing plants in town. She said, "shift work? Oh, I can't do that." So I told her about some office temp work I had heard about at a local corporate headquarters here in town. She said she didn't think she was qualified. Then I mentioned an article I had read about a company that was hiring in Greenville that was all office type work, and she siad, "greenville? Oh, I don't want to drive that far!"

In other words, she doesn't want to work because she's getting by on unemployment. So, she's not getting rich, but she sure doesn't seem motivated to get off of it.

[Grizalltheway]

Sometimes the truth hurts CPA & MBA you can find work, maybe not making 6 figures like you think you should but you can find work.

You do realize there's such a thing as being overqualified, and that it can hurt one's chances of landing certain jobs, right?