Federal Judge Blocks Part of Arizona Immigration Bill

[Skjellyfetti]

I would shoot ANYONE coming across the border without a valid US passport.

We wouldnt have an immigration problem anymore in just 3-5 days.

What about the 20 million already here? Round 'em up and shoot 'em?

[BDKJMU]

The courts didn't side with you. A single liberal judge did. Thats all.

What's your basis for calling her liberal? Everything I've read about her paints her as middle of the road, rational, etc.

Even IF she's not a lib judge as you claim, you stated the "courtS" have sided with you, when that's not the case. A single judge did.

Now granted, a court might end up siding with you, the 9th Circus, but they won't be the last word. SCOTUS will be. We'll see who gets last laugh.

[Skjellyfetti]

What's your basis for calling her liberal? Everything I've read about her paints her as middle of the road, rational, etc.

Even IF she's not a lib judge as you claim, you stated the "courtS" have sided with you, when that's not the case. A single judge did.

Now granted, a court might end up siding with you, the 9th Circus, but they won't be the last word. SCOTUS will be. We'll see who gets last laugh.

You're right. I shouldn't have added an "s" to the end of court. My sincerest and deepest apologies. Jesus fucking Christ.

[bluehenbillk]

I would shoot ANYONE coming across the border without a valid US passport.

We wouldnt have an immigration problem anymore in just 3-5 days.

Amen - Post of the year, that'd get DC off their ass & really do something. Post of the year candidate!!

[AshevilleApp]

Even IF she's not a lib judge as you claim, you stated the "courtS" have sided with you, when that's not the case. A single judge did.

Now granted, a court might end up siding with you, the 9th Circus, but they won't be the last word. SCOTUS will be. We'll see who gets last laugh.

You're right. I shouldn't have added an "s" to the end of court. My sincerest and deepest apologies. Jesus **** Christ.

You have to get up mighty early in the morning to get something past BDKJMU.

[Gil Dobie]

I would shoot ANYONE coming across the border without a valid US passport.

We wouldnt have an immigration problem anymore in just 3-5 days.

What if your mother made a weekend trip to Canada and realized she forgot her passport after she was already in Canada? What affect would this have on immigration if you shot everyone that forgot their passport?

[Vidav]

Interesting that you would use THAT illogical argument. The majority of this COUNTRY agrees with ME, not you. But in the Donks "holier than thou" approach to governing, the minority is just CERTAIN they know what's best for the majority.

I don't claim either of our stupid parties but shit like this always makes me laugh. Republicans and Democrats both believe they know the best way to do everything yet they criticize the other party for feeling that way. Both sides have a "holier than thou" approach to governing.

And yes, the minority does need some protection from the majority. Numbers don't make right, otherwise McDonalds would be considered the best hamburgers in the world and many other silly and/or scary examples.

[AZGrizFan]

Interesting that you would use THAT illogical argument. The majority of this COUNTRY agrees with ME, not you. But in the Donks "holier than thou" approach to governing, the minority is just CERTAIN they know what's best for the majority.

I don't claim either of our stupid parties but shit like this always makes me laugh. Republicans and Democrats both believe they know the best way to do everything yet they criticize the other party for feeling that way. Both sides have a "holier than thou" approach to governing.

And yes, the minority does need some protection from the majority. Numbers don't make right, otherwise McDonalds would be considered the best hamburgers in the world and many other silly and/or scary examples.

The difference is that the donks have 4 shining examples just in the past 8 months of completely ignoring the will of the majority. Rarely do you see that kind of arrogance on display permanently. To blindly continue on with policies and legislation (that have nothing to do with "protection") despite overwhelming support for the opposition is either just plain stupid.

[AZGrizFan]

I would shoot ANYONE coming across the border without a valid US passport.

We wouldnt have an immigration problem anymore in just 3-5 days.

What if your mother made a weekend trip to Canada and realized she forgot her passport after she was already in Canada? What affect would this have on immigration if you shot everyone that forgot their passport?

Well, Canada would never let her IN without her passport. They're VERY good at securing thier borders....

[Skjellyfetti]

What if your mother made a weekend trip to Canada and realized she forgot her passport after she was already in Canada? What affect would this have on immigration if you shot everyone that forgot their passport?

Well, Canada would never let her IN without her passport. They're VERY good at securing thier borders....

It's got nothing to do with Canada having more secure borders. If there was a 3rd world country on their border... they'd be in the same boat.

The US-Mexico border is the only border in the world between a 1st world country and a 3rd world country. As long as that's the case, we're going to have an immigration problem.

[citdog]

Well, Canada would never let her IN without her passport. They're VERY good at securing thier borders....

It's got nothing to do with Canada having more secure borders. If there was a 3rd world country on their border... they'd be in the same boat.

The US-Mexico border is the only border in the world between a 1st world country and a 3rd world country. As long as that's the case, we're going to have an immigration problem.

not true you ignorant socialist weasel. we're going to have an illegal immigration problem as long as people like you have their goddamn headquarters where their hindquarters ought to be.

[Gil Dobie]

What if your mother made a weekend trip to Canada and realized she forgot her passport after she was already in Canada? What affect would this have on immigration if you shot everyone that forgot their passport?

Well, Canada would never let her IN without her passport. They're VERY good at securing thier borders....

I've been through the border with Canada over 200 times, and never been asked for a passport. You need the passport to get back into the USA.

[AZGrizFan]

Well, Canada would never let her IN without her passport. They're VERY good at securing thier borders....

It's got nothing to do with Canada having more secure borders. If there was a 3rd world country on their border... they'd be in the same boat.

The US-Mexico border is the only border in the world between a 1st world country and a 3rd world country. As long as that's the case, we're going to have an immigration problem.

No shit, sherlock.

But it won't matter for long. If Obama has his way soon WE'LL be a 3rd world country and beating down Canada's doors.

[BDKJMU]

So any chance this gets to the Supreme Ct this yr?

[Skjellyfetti]

So any chance this gets to the Supreme Ct this yr?

Possibly. They aren't hearing any cases until October at the earliest, though.

[Skjellyfetti]

But it won't matter for long. If Obama has his way soon WE'LL be a 3rd world country and beating down Canada's doors.

You must be confused as to what a Third World country is.

1st World = US + Nato allies
2nd World = Russia + satellites and allies
3rd World = former colonies and nonaligned

US can't be a Third World country... no matter what Obama does.

[Gil Dobie]

But it won't matter for long. If Obama has his way soon WE'LL be a 3rd world country and beating down Canada's doors.

You must be confused as to what a Third World country is.

1st World = US + Nato allies
2nd World = Russia + satellites and allies
3rd World = former colonies and nonaligned

US can't be a Third World country... no matter what Obama does.

True by the Cold War definition, but third world has come to mean other things, like less developed technologically, high poverty etc.

[BDKJMU]

So any chance this gets to the Supreme Ct this yr?

Possibly. They aren't hearing any cases until October at the earliest, though.

What the heck is the Supreme Ct doing the 4 months July-Sept?

[Skjellyfetti]

What the heck is the Supreme Ct doing the 4 months July-Sept?

Summer recess until October 4.

So they're relaxing at the beach, practicing golf swing, etc.

Hell, I'd extend Summer recess through football season if I were them.

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[AZGrizFan]

But it won't matter for long. If Obama has his way soon WE'LL be a 3rd world country and beating down Canada's doors.

You must be confused as to what a Third World country is.

1st World = US + Nato allies
2nd World = Russia + satellites and allies
3rd World = former colonies and nonaligned

US can't be a Third World country... no matter what Obama does.

Maybe those definitions came from your communist textbook, but when I was growing up, it was based on standards of living and economics.

So, it has VERY MUCH to do with what Obama does. And it won't take long.

[JMU DJ]

A lawyer who is for states enacting laws that promote immigration enforcement wrote a nice article to pull AZ back off the edge of the building. It goes on for seven more points and details some of Judge Bolton's order.

First: The judge lives in Arizona, likes Arizona and its people and sympathizes with your struggle to fight "rampant immigration, escalating drug and human trafficking crimes, and serious safety concerns." That's from the first sentence of her order.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/07/30/h ... tml?hpt=T2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Sounds like the Judge is just covering your ass Z and trying to get AZ to make 1070 better.


Since you seem hung up on the Dem agenda, lest we not forget the Republican agenda to grant amnesty and a pathway to citizenship, and the Arizona senators who supported it. Hey Z, you probably voted for Kyl and McCain as well as Bush... wafflers.
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Kyl talking about amnesty and why the Republicans weren't enforcing border policies

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"There's no principles within that bill that I didn't agree with."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/200 ... 6r/?page=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Pushing for Amnesty and Universal Health Care are nothing new to the Republican party, it's just clear that Republicans don't like it when the Democrats steal their ideas and visa versa, which is why a majority of both parties are bunch of chuckles. At least be objective on the situation, there are plenty of Republican congressmen who have pushed and voted for amnesty bills in the past, there are plenty of Republican congressmen who have sponsored and attempted to pass similar Health Care bills to "Obamacare." Yes Z, Dems have been supportive of health care reform and immigration reform.... but your party has too.

[AZGrizFan]

A lawyer who is for states enacting laws that promote immigration enforcement wrote a nice article to pull AZ back off the edge of the building. It goes on for seven more points and details some of Judge Bolton's order.

First: The judge lives in Arizona, likes Arizona and its people and sympathizes with your struggle to fight "rampant immigration, escalating drug and human trafficking crimes, and serious safety concerns." That's from the first sentence of her order.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/07/30/h ... tml?hpt=T2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Sounds like the Judge is just covering your ass Z and trying to get AZ to make 1070 better.


Since you seem hung up on the Dem agenda, lest we not forget the Republican agenda to grant amnesty and a pathway to citizenship, and the Arizona senators who supported it. Hey Z, you probably voted for Kyl and McCain as well as Bush... wafflers.
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Kyl talking about amnesty and why the Republicans weren't enforcing border policies

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"There's no principles within that bill that I didn't agree with."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/200 ... 6r/?page=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Pushing for Amnesty and Universal Health Care are nothing new to the Republican party, it's just clear that Republicans don't like it when the Democrats steal their ideas and visa versa, which is why a majority of both parties are bunch of chuckles. At least be objective on the situation, there are plenty of Republican congressmen who have pushed and voted for amnesty bills in the past, there are plenty of Republican congressmen who have sponsored and attempted to pass similar Health Care bills to "Obamacare." Yes Z, Dems have been supportive of health care reform and immigration reform.... but your party has too.

All true. And I didn't support those positions at the time, much as I don't support the donk positions now. But, like any election, you should to vote for the candidate who most closely mirrors your beliefs and values. And in my case, that's Kyl and McCain.

I'm NOT a single issue voter. See how that works? Critical thinking....try it some time.

[JMU DJ]

I'm NOT a single issue voter.

Yes Z, and that wasn't my point. My point is that you pigeon hole this a problem the Democrats are creating, when in fact, both major parties have at one time or another, held the exact same hand in this card game... and this is on multiple issues, not just immigration.

[AZGrizFan]

I'm NOT a single issue voter.

Yes Z, and that wasn't my point. My point is that you pigeon hole this a problem the Democrats are creating, when in fact, both major parties have at one time or another, held the exact same hand in this card game... and this is on multiple issues, not just immigration.

Dems are in majority power in all three branches. This IS a Dem problem right now...face facts.

I've never once said Reps haven't done similar things in the past.