Where, Oh Where Are All The Stimulus Jobs?

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BlueHen86 wrote: ...I'd rather see the money spent on bridge repair. I don't know if that is happening or not, I haven't seen it.
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Re: Where, Oh Where Are All The Stimulus Jobs?

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Over 6 straight months of job growth. :?
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Do you not notice some sort of trend from February '09 (when stimulus was signed) to now? :?
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Over 6 straight months of job growth. :?
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Do you not notice some sort of trend from February '09 (when stimulus was signed) to now? :?
Wrong! There's han't been 6 straight months of job growth. There was no job growth in July. Way to conveniently have your chart end in June, leaving off July unemployment #s announced last Fri, which 131,000 more jobs lost in July, and downward revisions of 97,000 for the previous two months.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/mark ... ds-steady/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So a few hundred k jobs have been added this year after millions lost in 09'. Yet KY tries to spin this into good news. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Over 6 straight months of job growth. :?
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Do you not notice some sort of trend from February '09 (when stimulus was signed) to now? :?
Seriously, man, it's not all Obama's fault, but saying or implying that we've done a good job of creating jobs by pointing out extremely weak job growth over the past 6 months (which is still a year after the stimulus went into effect) is such blind partisanism that it might as well just be described as crazy. We need growth that's almost 5 times more than we have and we need it for a few years in a row to get out of this mess completely. We're nowhere near that right now and there's no real hope that we'll even start getting to that for maybe a year. We are far, far away from the "let's pat ourselves on the back for a job well done" part - heck, we haven't even really started. :ohno:
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BlueHen86 wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:What's your problem, Z? I mean, they took a census and I'm getting my section of I-85 commute repaved. What more could you want? ;)
Since they take the census every 10 years, I wouldn't count it as part of the stimulus.

It's nice to get roads repaved, but I'd rather see the money spent on bridge repair. I don't know if that is happening or not, I haven't seen it.
That's why I used the ;) . It seemed like this administration was taking credit for the positive impact of the stimulus partially because of the impact of the census jobs.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Do you not notice some sort of trend from February '09 (when stimulus was signed) to now? :?
Can't read the dates. Does your chart cover all of Bush's 8 years, or just where there was a job loss? :coffee:
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89Hen wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Do you not notice some sort of trend from February '09 (when stimulus was signed) to now? :?
Can't read the dates. Does your chart cover all of Bush's 8 years, or just where there was a job loss? :coffee:
NOTHING positive happened under Bush, so just move along....... :?

Seriously, anybody ever heard of the business cycle? Enter "historical unemployment rate" under Google images and you'll see it ebbs and flows throughout different administrations.

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/thefeder ... t-Rate.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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ASUG8 wrote:
89Hen wrote: Can't read the dates. Does your chart cover all of Bush's 8 years, or just where there was a job loss? :coffee:
NOTHING positive happened under Bush, so just move along....... :?

Seriously, anybody ever heard of the business cycle? Enter "historical unemployment rate" under Google images and you'll see it ebbs and flows throughout different administrations.

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/thefeder ... t-Rate.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Please....info like that doen't help make kyjelly's case...so why would you even bring it up... :roll:
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GannonFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Over 6 straight months of job growth. :?
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Do you not notice some sort of trend from February '09 (when stimulus was signed) to now? :?
Seriously, man, it's not all Obama's fault, but saying or implying that we've done a good job of creating jobs by pointing out extremely weak job growth over the past 6 months (which is still a year after the stimulus went into effect) is such blind partisanism that it might as well just be described as crazy. We need growth that's almost 5 times more than we have and we need it for a few years in a row to get out of this mess completely. We're nowhere near that right now and there's no real hope that we'll even start getting to that for maybe a year. We are far, far away from the "let's pat ourselves on the back for a job well done" part - heck, we haven't even really started. :ohno:
Not only THAT, but it took almost a TRILLION dollars of taxpayers money to get that weak-ass growth. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Seriously, man, it's not all Obama's fault, but saying or implying that we've done a good job of creating jobs by pointing out extremely weak job growth over the past 6 months (which is still a year after the stimulus went into effect) is such blind partisanism that it might as well just be described as crazy. We need growth that's almost 5 times more than we have and we need it for a few years in a row to get out of this mess completely. We're nowhere near that right now and there's no real hope that we'll even start getting to that for maybe a year. We are far, far away from the "let's pat ourselves on the back for a job well done" part - heck, we haven't even really started. :ohno:
Not only THAT, but it took almost a TRILLION dollars of taxpayers money to get that weak-ass growth. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
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Something isn't adding up. We know that unemployment has been at around 10% for quite some time. We know that public sector employment has increased. Is it possible that jellybelly's chart is bullshit?
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National job growth obtained by deficit spending is strangely familiar to personally financing unsustainable life styles through cheap credit. We know how that worked out. Why will doing it on a larger scale have a different effect?
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From the class of 09 wrote:National job growth obtained by deficit spending is strangely familiar to personally financing unsustainable life styles through cheap credit. We know how that worked out. Why will doing it on a larger scale have a different effect?
Good post - the only issue is that the government will always find new methods of revenue generation either by increased taxation or simply printing money - each has it's own pitfalls, but they are options generally unavailable to personal spending woes.
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