TO PEE OR NOT TO PEE. That is the question!

[Cap'n Cat]

Make weed legal, but if your employer mandates that you can't smoke dope while employed for them and you fail a drug test, you're done, period.

Disagree (for argument's sake...not gonna happen) unless they can invent a better testing method. Don't see how they can (rightfully) fire people for consuming a legal substance on their own time. Partaking at work or coming in under the influence, obviously yes. But current testing methods flag you for up to 30 days, so partaking of a legal substance during your vacation could get you fired upon your return? That's BS (except in right to work states...even then it's iffy)....but i digress...I don't think it's anything I'll have to worry aboout in my lifetime....

Agree with Appy. Also, disagree with Brother Baldy's thinking that banning users would result in taxpayer savings. The money would just be spent elsewhere such as in the 100's of prisons you're gonna hafta build to house all the fvckers who start looting and robbing and killing cuz they have no other options. Or, in the thousands more treatment programs the gov's gonna hafta fund.

Better yet, legalize the harmless drugs, thus taking the profit out of it for the bad guys, tax it, and make money off it.

[Col Hogan]

Disagree (for argument's sake...not gonna happen) unless they can invent a better testing method. Don't see how they can (rightfully) fire people for consuming a legal substance on their own time. Partaking at work or coming in under the influence, obviously yes. But current testing methods flag you for up to 30 days, so partaking of a legal substance during your vacation could get you fired upon your return? That's BS (except in right to work states...even then it's iffy)....but i digress...I don't think it's anything I'll have to worry aboout in my lifetime....

Agree with Appy. Also, disagree with Brother Baldy's thinking that banning users would result in taxpayer savings. The money would just be spent elsewhere such as in the 100's of prisons you're gonna hafta build to house all the fvckers who start looting and robbing and killing cuz they have no other options. Or, in the thousands more treatment programs the gov's gonna hafta fund.

Better yet, legalize the harmless drugs, thus taking the profit out of it for the bad guys, tax it, and make money off it.

Why is the government gonna hafta fund a treatment program...the gov didn't make them junkies...they made that decision themselves...

[houndawg]

Agree with Appy. Also, disagree with Brother Baldy's thinking that banning users would result in taxpayer savings. The money would just be spent elsewhere such as in the 100's of prisons you're gonna hafta build to house all the fvckers who start looting and robbing and killing cuz they have no other options. Or, in the thousands more treatment programs the gov's gonna hafta fund.

Better yet, legalize the harmless drugs, thus taking the profit out of it for the bad guys, tax it, and make money off it.

Why is the government gonna hafta fund a treatment program...the gov didn't make them junkies...they made that decision themselves...

If the guvmint doesn't do it, who will? The pharmaceutical companies that make the junk? The Doctors that prescribe it almost for the asking? It wouldn't be fair.

[clenz]

Why is the government gonna hafta fund a treatment program...the gov didn't make them junkies...they made that decision themselves...

If the guvmint doesn't do it, who will? The pharmaceutical companies that make the junk? The Doctors that prescribe it almost for the asking? It wouldn't be fair.

The pharmaceutical companies are the people making and selling weed, heroin, speed, meth, etc...? Wow, I had no idea. I've never touched a drug outside of alcohol in my life, but I never realized that my old roommate was buying all of his weed from the pharmaceutical companies of America.

[Col Hogan]

Why is the government gonna hafta fund a treatment program...the gov didn't make them junkies...they made that decision themselves...

If the guvmint doesn't do it, who will? The pharmaceutical companies that make the junk? The Doctors that prescribe it almost for the asking? It wouldn't be fair.

Last time I checked...pharmaceutical companies are not making the stuff most folks in rehab are takin'...

So, FAIL on Huckleberry's part....

[Cap'n Cat]

Agree with Appy. Also, disagree with Brother Baldy's thinking that banning users would result in taxpayer savings. The money would just be spent elsewhere such as in the 100's of prisons you're gonna hafta build to house all the fvckers who start looting and robbing and killing cuz they have no other options. Or, in the thousands more treatment programs the gov's gonna hafta fund.

Better yet, legalize the harmless drugs, thus taking the profit out of it for the bad guys, tax it, and make money off it.

Why is the government gonna hafta fund a treatment program...the gov didn't make them junkies...they made that decision themselves...

What a dumb, blind Conk way to think. Tell me what you think's gonna happen when all the junkies don't pass the piss test and they go home, you Teabagger dork.

[Baldy]

Agree with Appy. Also, disagree with Brother Baldy's thinking that banning users would result in taxpayer savings. The money would just be spent elsewhere such as in the 100's of prisons you're gonna hafta build to house all the fvckers who start looting and robbing and killing cuz they have no other options. Or, in the thousands more treatment programs the gov's gonna hafta fund.

Better yet, legalize the harmless drugs, thus taking the profit out of it for the bad guys, tax it, and make money off it.

Why is the government gonna hafta fund a treatment program...the gov didn't make them junkies...they made that decision themselves...

They could call it "Cash for Cocaine", or "Too High to Fail", or "Bailouts for Methheads"....

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Bailouts for Burnouts would have been better there Baldy.

[Baldy]

Bailouts for Burnouts would have been better there Baldy.

[Col Hogan]

Why is the government gonna hafta fund a treatment program...the gov didn't make them junkies...they made that decision themselves...

What a dumb, blind Conk way to think. Tell me what you think's gonna happen when all the junkies don't pass the piss test and they go home, you Teabagger dork.

What a selfish Donk way to think...go out and smoke a ton of meth then expect someone else to pay for your rehab...

What do I think is gonna happen??? Put them in jail...I'll pay for that...let them go cold turkey...and understand that they alone are responsible for their decisions...

[native]

I voted "No", but it is tempting to say "Yes".


Howzabout we give random urine tests to all members of Congress? Or every employee of every company that accepts federal dollars? I know that many (most) do, but, make it random, now. Recipients of relief are a small number when compared to employees of companies take government largesse.

It's a great idea to pee-test ANYONE who receives tax dollars!

...but as usual, Cap, you blur the distinction between earned and unearned "largesse."

[native]

Disagree (for argument's sake...not gonna happen) unless they can invent a better testing method. Don't see how they can (rightfully) fire people for consuming a legal substance on their own time. Partaking at work or coming in under the influence, obviously yes. But current testing methods flag you for up to 30 days, so partaking of a legal substance during your vacation could get you fired upon your return? That's BS (except in right to work states...even then it's iffy)....but i digress...I don't think it's anything I'll have to worry aboout in my lifetime....

Agree with Appy. Also, disagree with Brother Baldy's thinking that banning users would result in taxpayer savings. The money would just be spent elsewhere such as in the 100's of prisons you're gonna hafta build to house all the fvckers who start looting and robbing and killing cuz they have no other options. Or, in the thousands more treatment programs the gov's gonna hafta fund.

Better yet, legalize the harmless drugs, thus taking the profit out of it for the bad guys, tax it, and make money off it.

Which dope do you think is "harmless," Cap? After marijahoookie, the list is pretty short... and mj is not exactly harmless...

[D1B]

BTW, wouldn't the cost of conducting the tests make welfare even more expensive for the tax payers?

Probably not because you'd eliminate half the recipients.

Drop in the bucket compared to welfare given to people like you and industries like the one you work in.

Plus, you're a fucking alcoholic and thus no better than "the recipients".

[D1B]

Agree with Appy. Also, disagree with Brother Baldy's thinking that banning users would result in taxpayer savings. The money would just be spent elsewhere such as in the 100's of prisons you're gonna hafta build to house all the fvckers who start looting and robbing and killing cuz they have no other options. Or, in the thousands more treatment programs the gov's gonna hafta fund.

Better yet, legalize the harmless drugs, thus taking the profit out of it for the bad guys, tax it, and make money off it.

Which dope do you think is "harmless," Cap? After marijahoookie, the list is pretty short... and mj is not exactly harmless...

Shrooms, coke, LSD, Extasy, peyote, ether...

[AZGrizFan]

Probably not because you'd eliminate half the recipients.

Drop in the bucket compared to welfare given to people like you and industries like the one you work in.

Plus, you're a fucking alcoholic and thus no better than "the recipients".

...says the guy who sucks cock for heroin.

[D1B]

Drop in the bucket compared to welfare given to people like you and industries like the one you work in.

Plus, you're a fucking alcoholic and thus no better than "the recipients".

...says the guy who sucks cock for heroin.

Did I say I wasn't a piece a shit? Just letting Hen know he's much bigger welfare whore and drug addict than he thinks.

[houndawg]

If the guvmint doesn't do it, who will? The pharmaceutical companies that make the junk? The Doctors that prescribe it almost for the asking? It wouldn't be fair.

Last time I checked...pharmaceutical companies are not making the stuff most folks in rehab are takin'...

So, FAIL on Huckleberry's part....

Last time you checked, Eisenhower was President.

Certainly a gentleman of your years can be excused for being out of touch, colonel, and especially someone from the officer class, but you shouldn't abuse the priveledge, so let ol' houndawg catch you up on the past few decades - the vast majority of junkies in this country are addicted to prescription junk, your colonelness. Doctors pass it out like candy because that's what big pharma wants. Of course, the damage gets left to society to deal with. Just another example of privatized profit and socialized risk in the land of the free and home of the brave.

[BDKJMU]

Last time I checked...pharmaceutical companies are not making the stuff most folks in rehab are takin'...

So, FAIL on Huckleberry's part....

Last time you checked, Eisenhower was President.

Certainly a gentleman of your years can be excused for being out of touch, colonel, and especially someone from the officer class, but you shouldn't abuse the priveledge, so let ol' houndawg catch you up on the past few decades - the vast majority of junkies in this country are addicted to prescription junk, your colonelness. Doctors pass it out like candy because that's what big pharma wants. Of course, the damage gets left to society to deal with. Just another example of privatized profit and socialized risk in the land of the free and home of the brave.

The Colonel is right, as as usual, houndoog doesn't know what he is talking about. The vast majority of junkies in this country AREN'T addicted to prescription junk. According to the Dept of Health and Human Services National Survey on Drug Use and Health latest statistics (2008), of 20.1 million drug abusers in the country, 6.2 million (thats about 31%) abuse prescription drugs. The other 69% its something else.

[AshevilleApp]

Last time you checked, Eisenhower was President.

Certainly a gentleman of your years can be excused for being out of touch, colonel, and especially someone from the officer class, but you shouldn't abuse the priveledge, so let ol' houndawg catch you up on the past few decades - the vast majority of junkies in this country are addicted to prescription junk, your colonelness. Doctors pass it out like candy because that's what big pharma wants. Of course, the damage gets left to society to deal with. Just another example of privatized profit and socialized risk in the land of the free and home of the brave.

The Colonel is right, as as usual, houndoog doesn't know what he is talking about. The vast majority of junkies in this country AREN'T addicted to prescription junk. According to the Dept of Health and Human Services National Survey on Drug Use and Health latest statistics (2008), of 20.1 million drug abusers in the country, 6.2 million (thats about 31%) abuse prescription drugs. The other 69% its something else.

I think the discussion was about people in rehab. The graph you show indicates that illicit pharmaceuticals are second to weed in illegal drug use. How many people enter rehab for smoking pot?

I'd contend that the majority of people in rehab are there for alcohol abuse.

[Cap'n Cat]

Wonder if my insurance will pay for porn addiction counseling??

[Col Hogan]

Last time you checked, Eisenhower was President.

Certainly a gentleman of your years can be excused for being out of touch, colonel, and especially someone from the officer class, but you shouldn't abuse the priveledge, so let ol' houndawg catch you up on the past few decades - the vast majority of junkies in this country are addicted to prescription junk, your colonelness. Doctors pass it out like candy because that's what big pharma wants. Of course, the damage gets left to society to deal with. Just another example of privatized profit and socialized risk in the land of the free and home of the brave.

The Colonel is right, as as usual, houndoog doesn't know what he is talking about. The vast majority of junkies in this country AREN'T addicted to prescription junk. According to the Dept of Health and Human Services National Survey on Drug Use and Health latest statistics (2008), of 20.1 million drug abusers in the country, 6.2 million (thats about 31%) abuse prescription drugs. The other 69% its something else.

Another FAIL for Huckleberry...

And while the Huckster would like to make it seem like doctors and the boogy man BIG PHARMA are to blame for any abuse of perscription drugs, the DEA says not so fast and loose with da facts...

Methods of acquiring prescription drugs for abuse include “doctor-shopping,” traditional drug-dealing, theft from pharmacies or homes, illicitly acquiring prescription drugs via the Internet, and from friends or relatives.

http://www.justice.gov/dea/concern/pres ... sheet.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So, docs and big pharma, ya say there Huckleberry....care to back up dat there claim?????

[ATrain]

Wonder if my insurance will pay for porn addiction counseling??

Don't know, but I deny your disability claim.

"Although you may have trouble taking your eyes off of pornographic material, you still retain the ability to make independent decisions regarding your care and activities of daily living and should be able to perform simple, unskilled repetitive work that does not require a great deal of interaction with other people."

Yes, I've actually done a case like that.

[houndawg]

Last time you checked, Eisenhower was President.

Certainly a gentleman of your years can be excused for being out of touch, colonel, and especially someone from the officer class, but you shouldn't abuse the priveledge, so let ol' houndawg catch you up on the past few decades - the vast majority of junkies in this country are addicted to prescription junk, your colonelness. Doctors pass it out like candy because that's what big pharma wants. Of course, the damage gets left to society to deal with. Just another example of privatized profit and socialized risk in the land of the free and home of the brave.

The Colonel is right, as as usual, houndoog doesn't know what he is talking about. The vast majority of junkies in this country AREN'T addicted to prescription junk. According to the Dept of Health and Human Services National Survey on Drug Use and Health latest statistics (2008), of 20.1 million drug abusers in the country, 6.2 million (thats about 31%) abuse prescription drugs. The other 69% its something else.

Good ol' BD and his verbal 3-card Monte, sure as the sun comes up.

You are once again Exposed, BD.: Of course you know what you pulled, but the colonel is easily fooled, poor old fellow.

Junkies are a subset of drug abusers, i.e., all junkies are drug abusers but not all drug abusers are junkies.

Apples and apples, BD, gotta compare prescription junkies against the total number of junkies, not the total number of drug abusers.

You and your feeble attempt at diversion are dismissed. Thank you for playing, we have some lovely gifts for you.

[houndawg]

The Colonel is right, as as usual, houndoog doesn't know what he is talking about. The vast majority of junkies in this country AREN'T addicted to prescription junk. According to the Dept of Health and Human Services National Survey on Drug Use and Health latest statistics (2008), of 20.1 million drug abusers in the country, 6.2 million (thats about 31%) abuse prescription drugs. The other 69% its something else.

Another FAIL for Huckleberry...

And while the Huckster would like to make it seem like doctors and the boogy man BIG PHARMA are to blame for any abuse of perscription drugs, the DEA says not so fast and loose with da facts...

Methods of acquiring prescription drugs for abuse include “doctor-shopping,” traditional drug-dealing, theft from pharmacies or homes, illicitly acquiring prescription drugs via the Internet, and from friends or relatives.

http://www.justice.gov/dea/concern/pres ... sheet.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So, docs and big pharma, ya say there Huckleberry....care to back up dat there claim?????

Swing and another miss, colonel, I'm saying that just like with Tobacco, the profits are privatized and the social and health costs are passed on to you and me through the government. Nobody forced those smokers to smoke but you and me still picked up the mess.

[Col Hogan]

Another FAIL for Huckleberry...

And while the Huckster would like to make it seem like doctors and the boogy man BIG PHARMA are to blame for any abuse of perscription drugs, the DEA says not so fast and loose with da facts...


http://www.justice.gov/dea/concern/pres ... sheet.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So, docs and big pharma, ya say there Huckleberry....care to back up dat there claim?????

Swing and another miss, colonel, I'm saying that just like with Tobacco, the profits are privatized and the social and health costs are passed on to you and me through the government. Nobody forced those smokers to smoke but you and me still picked up the mess.

And once again, Huckleberry shows his true colors...

Because in his world, private enterprise is evil...

dawg, why aren't you hammering Ford to pay for all those people injured in auto accidents...

the profits are privatized and the social and health costs are passed on to you

Schwinn should pay for each and every kid hurt riding a bike...

the profits are privatized and the social and health costs are passed on to you

And let's not forget to sue the National Cattlemen's Beef Association for all those heart attacks...

the profits are privatized and the social and health costs are passed on to you

We wouldn't want people taking responsibility for their own actions....would we???