Ex-lawmakers scold Congress

[Col Hogan]

Is it possibe that some sanity could come to our political system...or are these folks " tilting at windmills"

In an unprecedented letter to all congressional candidates in both parties, more than 130 former members of Congress said it’s time to halt “this sorry state of affairs” and start to “focus on problem solving.”

Congress “appears gripped by zero-sum game partisanship,” in which the goal often seems to be more to devastate the other side ... than to find common ground to solve problems,” they wrote.

It is a pointed message from experts who know the territory and want everybody to get along better.

They urge current members to show “decency and respect toward opponents,” to engage in truthfulness and good-faith debate and to end personal attacks — in both campaigns and their legislative work.

The cry of “enough” was organized by the new group Former Members of Congress for Common Ground, led by former Reps. John Porter (R-Ill.) and David Skaggs (D-Colo.). Each served on the House Appropriations Committee and was known for his bipartisan approach. And each remains professionally active on Capitol Hill as a lawyer with a large firm.



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I say good luck...but right now, it's probably like trying to bail out the ocean with a thimble...

[Cap'n Cat]

Good post, Hoagie.

[Ivytalk]

Is it possibe that some sanity could come to our political system...or are these folks " tilting at windmills"

In an unprecedented letter to all congressional candidates in both parties, more than 130 former members of Congress said it’s time to halt “this sorry state of affairs” and start to “focus on problem solving.”

Congress “appears gripped by zero-sum game partisanship,” in which the goal often seems to be more to devastate the other side ... than to find common ground to solve problems,” they wrote.

It is a pointed message from experts who know the territory and want everybody to get along better.

They urge current members to show “decency and respect toward opponents,” to engage in truthfulness and good-faith debate and to end personal attacks — in both campaigns and their legislative work.

The cry of “enough” was organized by the new group Former Members of Congress for Common Ground, led by former Reps. John Porter (R-Ill.) and David Skaggs (D-Colo.). Each served on the House Appropriations Committee and was known for his bipartisan approach. And each remains professionally active on Capitol Hill as a lawyer with a large firm.



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I say good luck...but right now, it's probably like trying to bail out the ocean with a thimble...

Omigawd! They're...they're .. they're... LOBBYISTS!!!

[kalm]

Is it possibe that some sanity could come to our political system...or are these folks " tilting at windmills"



I say good luck...but right now, it's probably like trying to bail out the ocean with a thimble...

Omigawd! They're...they're .. they're... LOBBYISTS!!!

Exactly, which makes them still part of the problem.

[OL FU]

Omigawd! They're...they're .. they're... LOBBYISTS!!!

Exactly, which makes them still part of the problem.

And my guess is they are congressman who got the things done that got us into this friggin' mess

[Grizalltheway]

Omigawd! They're...they're .. they're... LOBBYISTS!!!

Exactly, which makes them still part of the problem.

And by "solve problems" they mean "get the money flowing our way again".

[kalm]

Exactly, which makes them still part of the problem.

And by "solve problems" they mean "get the money flowing our way again".

The more I think about it the more this pisses me off. If they really gave a shit about the state of things they should spend every last moment campaigning for election finance reform and a repeal of citizens united.

[Cap'n Cat]

Man, some of you fvckers are representative of the problems with the electorate, too.

So the guys are lobbyists, BFD? How do you know they aren't like the majority of lobbyists - decent citizens? Also, the fact that some of you kneejerk and bitch about a hundred guys and gals who are trying to make a difference is just perpetuating the problem. You're partisan piles of dung.

You think it's cool to sit back and label people and complain....on a football message board, too! You're a bunch of kids and need to grow up.

[Ivytalk]

Man, some of you fvckers are representative of the problems with the electorate, too.

So the guys are lobbyists, BFD? How do you know they aren't like the majority of lobbyists - decent citizens? Also, the fact that some of you kneejerk and bitch about a hundred guys and gals who are trying to make a difference is just perpetuating the problem. You're partisan piles of dung.

You think it's cool to sit back and label people and complain....on a football message board, too! You're a bunch of kids and need to grow up.

So sez the biggest bitcher, name-caller and whiner on the board.

[Col Hogan]

Man, some of you fvckers are representative of the problems with the electorate, too.

So the guys are lobbyists, BFD? How do you know they aren't like the majority of lobbyists - decent citizens? Also, the fact that some of you kneejerk and bitch about a hundred guys and gals who are trying to make a difference is just perpetuating the problem. You're partisan piles of dung.

You think it's cool to sit back and label people and complain....on a football message board, too! You're a bunch of kids and need to grow up.

So sez the biggest bitcher, name-caller and whiner on the board.

I agree...with both of you...

Just because someone is a lobbyist does not make them part of the problem...

And Cap...you live in a glass house...watch out about that stone throwing...

[Cap'n Cat]

So sez the biggest bitcher, name-caller and whiner on the board.

I agree...with both of you...

Just because someone is a lobbyist does not make them part of the problem...

And Cap...you live in a glass house...watch out about that stone throwing...

Hey, Cap'n Cat says what He says in the full knowledge of same.

[OL FU]

I agree...with both of you...

Just because someone is a lobbyist does not make them part of the problem...

And Cap...you live in a glass house...watch out about that stone throwing...

Hey, Cap'n Cat says what He says in the full knowledge of same.

Cap'n should learn a little discretion or quit criticizing people when they don't use it

[Cap'n Cat]

Hey, Cap'n Cat says what He says in the full knowledge of same.

Cap'n should learn a little discretion or quit criticizing people when they don't use it

Hey, FU, use a little discretion on this, will ya'?

[kalm]

The two party system makes partisanship and bickering neccessary. They all have to pretend they're not working for the same objectives.

[OL FU]

Cap'n should learn a little discretion or quit criticizing people when they don't use it

Hey, FU, use a little discretion on this, will ya'?

A shot of you in your playing days

[native]

And by "solve problems" they mean "get the money flowing our way again".

The more I think about it the more this pisses me off. If they really gave a **** about the state of things they should spend every last moment campaigning for free speech, smaller government, reduced taxes, less spending and a repeal of Obamacare.

FIFY, kalm!

[blueballs]

Hey, FU, use a little discretion on this, will ya'?

A shot of you in your playing days

That's a picture of him hiding the grapefruit he ate during film study...

... of course he had to pick the hair off it first.