GOP Hopeful Compares Being Gay To Alcoholism

[UNHWildCats]

GREGORY: Do you believe that being gay is a choice?

BUCK: I do.

GREGORY: Based on what?

BUCK: Based on what? I guess you can choose who your partner is.

GREGORY: You don’t think it’s something that’s determined at birth?

BUCK: I think that birth has an influence over it, like alcoholism and some other things, but I think that basically, you have a choice.

[Bronco]

Big Study: Homosexual Parents More LIkely to Raise Homosexual Kids
AOL News ^ | October 17, 2010 | Paul Kix


Walter Schumm knows what he's about to do is unpopular: publish a study arguing that gay parents are more likely to raise gay children than straight parents. But the Kansas State University family studies professor has a detailed analysis that past almost aggressively ideological researchers never had.

When one such researcher, Paul Cameron, published a paper in 2006 arguing that children of gay parents were more likely to be gay themselves, the response from the academic press was virulent, to say nothing of the popular press; the Southern Poverty Law Center, for instance, equated Cameron to a Nazi.

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[BlueHen86]

Big Study: Homosexual Parents More LIkely to Raise Homosexual Kids
AOL News ^ | October 17, 2010 | Paul Kix


Walter Schumm knows what he's about to do is unpopular: publish a study arguing that gay parents are more likely to raise gay children than straight parents. But the Kansas State University family studies professor has a detailed analysis that past almost aggressively ideological researchers never had.

When one such researcher, Paul Cameron, published a paper in 2006 arguing that children of gay parents were more likely to be gay themselves, the response from the academic press was virulent, to say nothing of the popular press; the Southern Poverty Law Center, for instance, equated Cameron to a Nazi.

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Didn't Cameron campaign against gay rights before he published that study? Seems to me that the guy has an anti-gay agenda, I don't think his research in this area is trustworthy.

[kalm]

Big Study: Homosexual Parents More LIkely to Raise Homosexual Kids
AOL News ^ | October 17, 2010 | Paul Kix


Walter Schumm knows what he's about to do is unpopular: publish a study arguing that gay parents are more likely to raise gay children than straight parents. But the Kansas State University family studies professor has a detailed analysis that past almost aggressively ideological researchers never had.

When one such researcher, Paul Cameron, published a paper in 2006 arguing that children of gay parents were more likely to be gay themselves, the response from the academic press was virulent, to say nothing of the popular press; the Southern Poverty Law Center, for instance, equated Cameron to a Nazi.

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Didn't Cameron campaign against gay rights before he published that study? Seems to me that the guy has an anti-gay agenda, I don't think his research in this area is trustworthy.

Yep.

For the most part, official scientific organisations have paid very little attention to Cameron's studies, and thus extensive scientific analysis of his claims have not been widely available. However Cameron's research, public statements and legal testimony have received criticism from researchers and organizations over methodologies they view as academically dishonest and misleading.

[edit] From professional organizations
The American Psychological Association (APA) launched an investigation into Cameron after receiving complaints about his work from members.[2][3] The APA President Max Seigel sent Cameron a letter on December 2, 1983 stating that the Board of Directors had decided to drop him from membership for failure to cooperate with their investigation.[18] FRI has contended that Cameron had already resigned from the organization in November 1982, citing correspondence from before his formal expulsion.[19] In a letter published in the March 1983 edition of the APA Monitor, Cameron stated that his reasons for leaving included his opinion that the organization was becoming more of a "liberal PAC" than a professional society.[20] An APA spokesperson told The Boston Globe in 2005, "We are concerned about Dr. Cameron because we do believe that his methodology is weak."[3]

In 1984 the Nebraska Psychological Association issued a statement disassociating itself "from the representations and interpretations of scientific literature offered by Dr. Paul Cameron".[3] In 1986 the American Sociological Association passed a resolution condemning Cameron for "consistent misrepresentation of sociological research".[21] This was based on a report from the ASA's Committee on the Status of Homosexuals in Sociology, which summarised Cameron's inflammatory statements and commented, "It does not take great analytical abilities to suspect from even a cursory review of Cameron's writings that his claims have almost nothing to do with social science and that social science is used only to cover over another agenda. Very little of his work could find support from even a bad misreading of genuine social science investigation on the subject and some sociologists, such as Alan Bell, have been 'appalled' at the abuse of their work."[22] In 1996, the Board of Directors of the Canadian Psychological Association approved a position statement disassociating the organisation from Cameron's work on sexuality, stating that he had "consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism".[23]

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[mainejeff]

I wonder if people are born being a-holes.......or they just choose to be?

For me it is a choice.........

[kalm]

I wonder if people are born being a-holes.......or they just choose to be?

For me it is a choice.........

[Appaholic]

GREGORY: Do you believe that being gay is a choice?

BUCK: I do.

GREGORY: Based on what?

BUCK: Based on what? I guess you can choose who your partner is.

GREGORY: You don’t think it’s something that’s determined at birth?

BUCK: I think that birth has an influence over it, like alcoholism and some other things, but I think that basically, you have a choice.

Other than emotion, do you have any valid proof there is a "gay" gene some folks are born with & others are not? If so, then there should also be a gene responsible for bisexuality? How do we explain the prevalence of this "bisexual" gene within women who choose to pursue a career in the porn industry?

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

I wonder if people are born being a-holes.......or they just choose to be?

For me it is a choice.........

Biggest question I have is, why do 90% of the people choose this? Well, I guess it could me but still......

[mainejeff]

How do we explain the prevalence of this "bisexual" gene within women who choose to pursue a career in the porn industry?

$$$$$$

Next.

[ATrain]

I wonder if people are born being a-holes.......or they just choose to be?

For me it is a choice.........

I dunno, I'd like to send you to a doctor's appointment, paid for by the government, to evaluate whether or not you have personality disorder and how it affects your functioning to determine whether or not you're eligible for a check.

Then again, you don't live in VA, nevermind.

[Appaholic]

How do we explain the prevalence of this "bisexual" gene within women who choose to pursue a career in the porn industry?

$$$$$$

Next.

So, we've established money CAN alter hereditary genetic DNA profiles.....

[Cap'n Cat]

All of this hate sh*t is why the Conk Party is doomed to failure. Conservatism marches backward and the world ain't never gonna be Father Knows Best again.

[DJH]

All of this hate sh*t is why the Conk Party is doomed to failure. Conservatism marches backward and the world ain't never gonna be Father Knows Best again.

Certainly not with all the dumbass liberal fathers walking the earth now.

[native]

Big Study: Homosexual Parents More LIkely to Raise Homosexual Kids
AOL News ^ | October 17, 2010 | Paul Kix


Walter Schumm knows what he's about to do is unpopular: publish a study arguing that gay parents are more likely to raise gay children than straight parents. But the Kansas State University family studies professor has a detailed analysis that past almost aggressively ideological researchers never had.

When one such researcher, Paul Cameron, published a paper in 2006 arguing that children of gay parents were more likely to be gay themselves, the response from the academic press was virulent, to say nothing of the popular press; the Southern Poverty Law Center, for instance, equated Cameron to a Nazi.

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Didn't Cameron campaign against gay rights before he published that study? Seems to me that the guy has an anti-gay agenda, I don't think his research in this area is trustworthy.

This is the problem with virtually all of the so-called "scientific" studies regading homosexuality, blue pants, not just Cameron's.

[free7694]

I'm still voting for him.

Pardon me if I don't give a **** what any candidate from either party thinks about homosexuality. It's not my issue.

[BlueHen86]

Didn't Cameron campaign against gay rights before he published that study? Seems to me that the guy has an anti-gay agenda, I don't think his research in this area is trustworthy.

This is the problem with virtually all of the so-called "scientific" studies regading homosexuality, blue pants, not just Cameron's.

We may not have the abilty to properly conduct a study on homosexuality at this time, but we should be able to spot a quack when we see one. This guy is "out there" and should be discounted whether you like his findings or not.

[CID1990]

Whether this is derogatory or not is all dependent on your view of alcoholism.

Some folks like me think that alcoholism is quite fun on a Sattiday night!

[andy7171]

Whether this is derogatory or not is all dependent on your view of alcoholism.

Some folks like me think that alcoholism is quite fun on a Sattiday night!

This.

[native]

This is the problem with virtually all of the so-called "scientific" studies regading homosexuality, blue pants, not just Cameron's.

We may not have the abilty to properly conduct a study on homosexuality at this time, but we should be able to spot a quack when we see one. This guy is "out there" and should be discounted whether you like his findings or not.

Please show us one study from either side that is not a biased "quack" study.

[BlueHen86]

We may not have the abilty to properly conduct a study on homosexuality at this time, but we should be able to spot a quack when we see one. This guy is "out there" and should be discounted whether you like his findings or not.

Please show us one study from either side that is not a biased "quack" study.

As I said, it may not be possible to cunduct such a study right now. But even if it were, I suspect people like yourself would immediately call into question the motives of the researchers if you didn't like their findings. Even if the researchers were completely fair and unbiased they would be attacked by the side that didn't like their conclusions.

It is obvious from this guys bio that he is not fair and unbiased.

[OSBF]

We may not have the abilty to properly conduct a study on homosexuality at this time, but we should be able to spot a quack when we see one. This guy is "out there" and should be discounted whether you like his findings or not.

Please show us one study from either side that is not a biased "quack" study.

Read the rational used to remove it from the DSM-IV by the APA

[native]

Please show us one study from either side that is not a biased "quack" study.

Read the rational used to remove it from the DSM-IV by the APA

I consider more than half of the psychologists and psychiatrists I know to be extremely biased, and probably 85% of the social workers to be so. But I will try to read the DSM-IV rationale. Is it available online?

[OSBF]

Read the rational used to remove it from the DSM-IV by the APA

I consider more than half of the psychologists and psychiatrists I know to be extremely biased, and probably 85% of the social workers to be so. But I will try to read the DSM-IV rationale. Is it available online?

I googled it a while back, found quite a bit actually, I was surprised.

[clenz]

Read the rational used to remove it from the DSM-IV by the APA

I consider more than half of the psychologists and psychiatrists I know to be extremely biased, and probably 85% of the social workers to be so. But I will try to read the DSM-IV rationale. Is it available online?

You have a point.

I work in the social services community (for a short time, I'm going back to school already), and I can tell you that at least 85% of the field is so far to the left of center Obama looks like a conk.

As for the psychologists and psychiatrists working on the DSM's, there is a reason it takes so long for new ones to come out. They have working on the DSM-V now, and have been for about 2 years....it isn't slatted to come out until 2013. Part of that is due to new research, most of it is because to decide what goes into and doesn't go into the DSM these "professionals" argue their beliefs on the subject, conduct extremely biased research on it, and refuse to acknowledge anything other than their point. To put myself in "this situation" again, I've taken classes with a psych professor who is on the review board for the DSM, and everything I just said comes straight from him.

[native]

I consider more than half of the psychologists and psychiatrists I know to be extremely biased, and probably 85% of the social workers to be so. But I will try to read the DSM-IV rationale. Is it available online?

I googled it a while back, found quite a bit actually, I was surprised.

I will only be surprised if the DSM-IV fails to lean all the way left. Rememberthat the APA are the same knuckleheads who gave us false memory syndrome, innocent by reason of insanity, and a thousand other excuses for stupidity and evil.