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D1B wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Excellent when an innocent feller can have the kind of protection and wherewithal at his disposal to make things come out correctly. :thumb:

Glad you had it and knew what to do with it A Train.
Ursus, if you were the one deciding who does and does not get to CC, then I don't have a problem.

Funny, some of you conks don't trust the goverment to collect garbage but have complete faith that they can decide who can carry hand canons, into bars and at tailgaters. :whistle:
Now, that depends on where you live...

In states like Massachusetts, California, and New York...the government can deny a permit for almost any reasons...those states are known as "may issue" permit states...

Here in Virginia, and I believe Montana, they are "shall issue" states...unless you are legally prohibited from having a permit (a felon, domestic violence conviction, etc) you shall be issued a permit if you apply and complete the required traiing...

In Arizona, Vermont and Utah, they have Constitutional Carry...anyone can carry because its in the Constitution...

Hopefully, every state will be there soon...
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Leave my guns Alone!!!!!!!!!!
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D1B wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:Cap'n & D1B, stop being pussies. When you guys were in MT a while back do you seriously think there were no people around you with guns on them? :lol:

PS, I'd highly recommend that you don't try and remove a gun from a few of my friends...you'd hate to be seen as an unwanted attacker. :thumb:
I'll take my chances, Grizzley Adams. :coffee:

I did see these guns on Grizo and Polson...

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It seems I acted correctly, 'cause you didn't see/know about the other one! :nod: :kisswink:
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I know quite a few folks with a concealed carry permit and I have 2 friends who are instructors. In Delaware one must take and pass the course, spend time on a range demonstrating competence, and pass a background check.

I'm not sure what the problem is of approving a permit for DEMONSTRABLE law abiding citizens.

I know women who have the concealed carry permit and all are under 130 lbs yet this makes them the equal of a Cap'n Cat or DIB.

As One woman said to me. A Smith and Wesson is the ultimate in feminine protection.
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D1B wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Excellent when an innocent feller can have the kind of protection and wherewithal at his disposal to make things come out correctly. :thumb:

Glad you had it and knew what to do with it A Train.
Ursus, if you were the one deciding who does and does not get to CC, then I don't have a problem.

Funny, some of you conks don't trust the goverment to collect garbage but have complete faith that they can decide who can carry hand canons, into bars and at tailgaters. :whistle:
:lol:
Now I'm a conk again. I fuckin' love you guys.

I don't bitch about the government doing things. I like it when you see a well run community effort to get things done. If the government wasn't doing a pretty damn good job sorting out who does and does not get a CC then I am sure that would be borne out by the stats. Since the stats show that the government(s) are doing an overwhelmingly GOOD job on this subject then I have absolutely nothing to complain about on it. :thumb:
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blukeys wrote:I know quite a few folks with a concealed carry permit and I have 2 friends who are instructors. In Delaware one must take and pass the course, spend time on a range demonstrating competence, and pass a background check.

I'm not sure what the problem is of approving a permit for DEMONSTRABLE law abiding citizens.

I know women who have the concealed carry permit and all are under 130 lbs yet this makes them the equal of a Cap'n Cat or DIB.

As One woman said to me. A Smith and Wesson is the ultimate in feminine protection.
I've got at least 6-8 close friends that have CCP's and I've dated two girls that had them. They were as you described, fairly small and they liked having the protection. The one girl slept with hers under the pillow.
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D1B wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:Cap'n & D1B, stop being pussies. When you guys were in MT a while back do you seriously think there were no people around you with guns on them? :lol:

PS, I'd highly recommend that you don't try and remove a gun from a few of my friends...you'd hate to be seen as an unwanted attacker. :thumb:
I'll take my chances, Grizzley Adams. :coffee:
Oh, I almost forgot....

NO, you wouldn't.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
D1B wrote:
I'll take my chances, Grizzley Adams. :coffee:
Oh, I almost forgot....

NO, you wouldn't.

I wouldn't try to take one away, Ursus. Not because I fear doing so. If the law says they can carry one, so be it. Just don't have that thing peeking out at a public gathering like a tailgater. Some CCP fvck gets drunk and starts waving it around, you can bet D and I will tackle the cocksucker and relieve him of that dangerous weapon.
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Cap'n Cat wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Oh, I almost forgot....

NO, you wouldn't.

I wouldn't try to take one away, Ursus. Not because I fear doing so. If the law says they can carry one, so be it. Just don't have that thing peeking out at a public gathering like a tailgater. Some CCP fvck gets drunk and starts waving it around, you can bet D and I will tackle the cocksucker and relieve him of that dangerous weapon.
So would I. I would bet anyone who has a CCP and respects guns and treats them like they should be would line up to get that fuckers ass.
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blukeys wrote:I know quite a few folks with a concealed carry permit and I have 2 friends who are instructors. In Delaware one must take and pass the course, spend time on a range demonstrating competence, and pass a background check.

I'm not sure what the problem is of approving a permit for DEMONSTRABLE law abiding citizens.

I know women who have the concealed carry permit and all are under 130 lbs yet this makes them the equal of a Cap'n Cat or DIB.

As One woman said to me. A Smith and Wesson is the ultimate in feminine protection.
In the state of Iowa the process is similar to this:
Apply
Meet with the county sheriff, and they determine if you are even able to take the class
Take the class
Pass a shooting test



Every county has a different sheriff, and every sheriff is different with how strict they are with CCP's.
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Cap'n Cat wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Oh, I almost forgot....

NO, you wouldn't.

I wouldn't try to take one away, Ursus. Not because I fear doing so. If the law says they can carry one, so be it. Just don't have that thing peeking out at a public gathering like a tailgater. Some CCP fvck gets drunk and starts waving it around, you can bet D and I will tackle the cocksucker and relieve him of that dangerous weapon.
And I would applaude you for your action...

In just about any jurisdiction, to "brandish" a weapon is a crime...I would not recommend trying to tackle a person doing it, but would rather call 9-1-1 and let the police handle it and you be the good witness...but if tackling the person can be done safely...go for it...just remember, this idiot can still discharge the weapon during your tackle, and you are now responsible for any harm along with the idiot...

And, in most states, even licensed people are not allowed to carry on college campuses or at large gatherings in and around stadiums...
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Cap'n Cat wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Oh, I almost forgot....

NO, you wouldn't.

I wouldn't try to take one away, Ursus. Not because I fear doing so. If the law says they can carry one, so be it. Just don't have that thing peeking out at a public gathering like a tailgater. Some CCP fvck gets drunk and starts waving it around, you can bet D and I will tackle the cocksucker and relieve him of that dangerous weapon.
My man, of course you'd try and do the right thing to avoid or eliminate danger for yourself and others against a person that was acting unlawfully. I don't think I know anyone that wouldn't want to do that. CCP people do not do these kinds of things. They do exactly the kind of thing you are advocating doing here. They have their guns to protect themselves and other innocent people from the tragedies that outlaws inflict. I would look at your actions as heroic if successful, and tragic in unsuccessful. Which is exactly how I look at a gun woner in the same circumstances.

I'm fair like that.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:

I wouldn't try to take one away, Ursus. Not because I fear doing so. If the law says they can carry one, so be it. Just don't have that thing peeking out at a public gathering like a tailgater. Some CCP fvck gets drunk and starts waving it around, you can bet D and I will tackle the cocksucker and relieve him of that dangerous weapon.
My man, of course you'd try and do the right thing to avoid or eliminate danger for yourself and others against a person that was acting unlawfully. I don't think I know anyone that wouldn't want to do that. CCP people do not do these kinds of things. They do exactly the kind of thing you are advocating doing here. They have their guns to protect themselves and other innocent people from the tragedies that outlaws inflict. I would look at your actions as heroic if successful, and tragic in unsuccessful. Which is exactly how I look at a gun woner in the same circumstances.

I'm fair like that.
What would the anti-gun people actually talk, read, post, blog, editorialize, etc… about if how the "real" CCP carriers got the recognition for being responsible with guns. They need to play on the emotion of it, they need the gangs to shoot each other. They need drunk hillbilly idiots to shoot at shit and make a big scene about Obama taking guns.
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Indeed.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
blukeys wrote:I know quite a few folks with a concealed carry permit and I have 2 friends who are instructors. In Delaware one must take and pass the course, spend time on a range demonstrating competence, and pass a background check.

I'm not sure what the problem is of approving a permit for DEMONSTRABLE law abiding citizens.

I know women who have the concealed carry permit and all are under 130 lbs yet this makes them the equal of a Cap'n Cat or DIB.

As One woman said to me. A Smith and Wesson is the ultimate in feminine protection.
I've got at least 6-8 close friends that have CCP's and I've dated two girls that had them. They were as you described, fairly small and they liked having the protection. The one girl slept with hers under the pillow.
That's fucking hawt. :nod:
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CCP's, like helmets, are for pussies...
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:lol: at the Front Sigh Firearms Training Institute ad at the bottom of the page
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Appaholic wrote:CCP's, like helmets, are for pussies...
OK......... :roll:

But the difference is this...everyone can see a pussy wearing a helmet...

Done correctly, no one can tell you are CCing... :nod:
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Col Hogan wrote:
Appaholic wrote:CCP's, like helmets, are for pussies...
OK......... :roll:

But the difference is this...everyone can see a pussy wearing a helmet...

Done correctly, no one can tell you are CCing... :nod:

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Little bitty tight twats are more dangerous than concealed guns.
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Wedgebuster wrote:Little bitty tight twats are more dangerous than concealed guns.
Although I haven't seen one in the last 24 hours, despite their "dangerousness", I love those things! :nod:
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In Utah it is legal to keep it in your vehicle without a permit now, but that was only recently. Most places in Utah it is still legal to open carry, but that is highly discouraged. If you get any alcoholic citation, with or without a wepon being involved, they will revoke your CWP. So simply being cited for public intoxiation or a DUI/DWI will ge tit revoked and they do revoke a lot of them that way, as they should.
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