Griz - NAU Game

[mtjack]

Good game, Jacks. Good game, Griz. Both teams made mistakes but both teams also played well enough to win. Griz just got that big play when they needed it. Bleeping Wa-Griz mystique. Kudos.

This last play of the game thing going two years in a row is proving for some exciting, if not nervous tic-inducing, football. Hope to see the Griz next year in Flagstaff. Til then, best of luck to UofM.

[Willie]

Jesus F Christ. I singled you out because u had just posted...



And no, I have never paid attention to your predictions...

Sure.

[SeattleGriz]

Jesus F Christ. I singled you out because u had just posted...



And no, I have never paid attention to your predictions...

Jesus's middle name starts with an H, not an F

[mtjack]

It's just a game guys....it's just a game. Step back...breath...exhale.

Willie - I have never heard dbackjon crying on here/egriz. I do my best to be as objective as possible as well. Questionable calls go both ways. But NAU didn't lose today or last year because of truly bad calls. They lost because they didn't make that one big play when they absolutely needed it. The U of M did. End of story. Was the incomplete pass/safety/fumble for a touchdown by the Griz rookie QB a close call. Yes. But that's part of the game.

[Willie]

I don't recall saying dback cried...but whatever. Just reread my post and you'll understand.

[ryannewhart]

that was one great catch, it was right by my seats too!!!

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

I am now relegated to having to type becuase I can barely talk now. What a crazy, hard game to watch, but fun to be in the stands watching it none the less. Great game by NAU, glad you left us some time on the clock. Our offense must only work against the prevent defense And that safety call was crazy, one new way to screw up on special teams that I didn't know we could.

[Mvemjsunpx]

And that safety call was crazy, one new way to screw up on special teams that I didn't know we could.

I don't think anyone knew that could happen, probably because it wasn't supposed to. Pflugrad said on the postgame that Dick Arbuckle—who has been a special teams coach for decades—has never seen that call before.

I have a feeling at least one Big Sky official is going to be out of a job come Monday…

[Grizalltheway]

And that safety call was crazy, one new way to screw up on special teams that I didn't know we could.

I don't think anyone knew that could happen, probably because it wasn't supposed to. Pflugrad said on the postgame that Dick Arbuckle—who has been a special teams coach for decades—has never seen that call before.

I have a feeling at least one Big Sky official is going to be out of a job come Monday…

Stop it mvem, you're killing me...

[dbackjon]

And that safety call was crazy, one new way to screw up on special teams that I didn't know we could.

I don't think anyone knew that could happen, probably because it wasn't supposed to. Pflugrad said on the postgame that Dick Arbuckle—who has been a special teams coach for decades—has never seen that call before.

I have a feeling at least one Big Sky official is going to be out of a job come Monday…

AS far as I can tell, it was the correct call.

Arbuckle - is that your current special teams coach?

[dbackjon]

Very hard fought game. I had a bad feeling when NAU scored too quickly to go ahead.

[siuham]

I don't think anyone knew that could happen, probably because it wasn't supposed to. Pflugrad said on the postgame that Dick Arbuckle—who has been a special teams coach for decades—has never seen that call before.

I have a feeling at least one Big Sky official is going to be out of a job come Monday…

AS far as I can tell, it was the correct call.

Arbuckle - is that your current special teams coach?

I was still at work and missed it, what actually happened?

[Mvemjsunpx]

AS far as I can tell, it was the correct call.

Arbuckle - is that your current special teams coach?

Yes, he's UM's special teams coach.

How was it the correct call? He caught the kickoff in the endzone & ran out the back. How is that not a touchback? Unless there's some difference between running out the back & kneeling in the endzone, which I've never ever heard of at any level of football anytime anywhere.

[dbackjon]

AS far as I can tell, it was the correct call.

Arbuckle - is that your current special teams coach?

I was still at work and missed it, what actually happened?

Montana returner Nguyen caught a high kickoff deep in the end zone - had possession for three steps, went out to the back of the end zone?

[dbackjon]

AS far as I can tell, it was the correct call.

Arbuckle - is that your current special teams coach?

Yes, he's UM's special teams coach.

How was it the correct call? He caught the kickoff in the endzone & ran out the back. How is that not a touchback? Unless there's some difference between running out the back & kneeling in the endzone, which I've never ever heard of at any level of football anytime anywhere.

Well, Arbuckle is coaching the worst special teams unit I have seen at Montana, or at any Big Sky school, so you probably don't want to listen to him.

Nguyen had possession, went out of the BACK OF THE ENDZONE, with possession. That is a safety, by rule.

Rarely happens, because most returners, when 6 yards deep in the endzone, have the sense to let a head high ball go out the back on it's own power.

[griz8791]

. . . Rarely happens, because most returners, when 6 yards deep in the endzone, have the sense to let a head high ball go out the back on it's own power.

Or have been coached to do that.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Nguyen had possession, went out of the BACK OF THE ENDZONE, with possession. That is a safety, by rule.

Prove it.

What difference is there in going out the back versus kneeling down? There isn't a difference as far as a pick/fumble recovery is concerned as far as I know.

[dbackjon]

Nguyen had possession, went out of the BACK OF THE ENDZONE, with possession. That is a safety, by rule.

Prove it.

What difference is there in going out the back versus kneeling down? There isn't a difference as far as a pick/fumble recovery is concerned as far as I know.

Prove that it is not...

[dbackjon]

Nguyen had possession, went out of the BACK OF THE ENDZONE, with possession. That is a safety, by rule.

Prove it.

What difference is there in going out the back versus kneeling down? There isn't a difference as far as a pick/fumble recovery is concerned as far as I know.

With the kneel down, you are giving up - specific rule for that. With a return, it is a live ball. Just like a NAU player could have tackled Nguyen in the end zone, if he didn't kneel down.

[SeattleGriz]

Prove it.

What difference is there in going out the back versus kneeling down? There isn't a difference as far as a pick/fumble recovery is concerned as far as I know.

Prove that it is not...

He asked you first!

[Mvemjsunpx]

Well, Arbuckle is coaching the worst special teams unit I have seen at Montana, or at any Big Sky school, so you probably don't want to listen to him.

That's just stupid. Peter Nguyen, despite the fumbles (which are totally his fault, not the coaches), still is among the national leaders in punt return average. His kick return at the end set up the winning score (why did NAU's kicker line drive it right to him?). Brody McKnight is one of the best kickers in FCS.

To say the Griz have one of the worst special teams units in the history of the Big Sky is complete idiocy.

[dbackjon]

Well, Arbuckle is coaching the worst special teams unit I have seen at Montana, or at any Big Sky school, so you probably don't want to listen to him.

That's just stupid. Peter Nguyen, despite the fumbles (which are totally his fault, not the coaches), still is among the national leaders in punt return average. His kick return at the end set up the winning score (why did NAU's kicker line drive it right to him?). Brody McKnight is one of the best kickers in FCS.

To say the Griz have one of the worst special teams units in the history of the Big Sky is complete idiocy.

A lot of Griz fans agree with me.

Running into your own man, coverage, fumbles, etc. Not a good special team.

[EWURanger]

If the ball goes out of the back of the end-zone......whether it is ran out, or the ball itself goes out (see the snap that went over EWU's punters head last year against the Griz), makes it a safety, period.

[mlbowl]

If the ball goes out of the back of the end-zone......whether it is ran out, or the ball itself goes out (see the snap that went over EWU's punters head last year against the Griz), makes it a safety, period.

If the ball itself goes out the back on a kickoff...it is most definitely NOT a safety. It is indeed a touchback!

[dbackjon]

If the ball goes out of the back of the end-zone......whether it is ran out, or the ball itself goes out (see the snap that went over EWU's punters head last year against the Griz), makes it a safety, period.

If the ball itself goes out the back on a kickoff...it is most definitely NOT a safety. It is indeed a touchback!

Because it that case, it was never in play. Has to be touched by a player after the kickoff to be in play.