Rev. Schuller's Crystal Cathedral In Bankruptcy! LMAO!!

[Cap'n Cat]

You assume that they are bitter, and that you are happier than them.

Perhaps they think you're presumptuous -- blinded by your own comforts -- as to what makes people truly happy.

I know and meet plenty of people who been knocked on their asses by this recession, but the faithful among them never seem to be unhappy.

On the other hand, some people never believe that all this shall pass, even though it has happened or will happen to every person who has ever lived.

Yeah, the "suffering as virtue" bullshit the catholic church has been spewing for 2000 years.

That cunt, Mother Theresa made a fortune for the catholic church using that line of fucked up and anti human logic. Unfortunately, people in her care suffered the worst of deaths in the most disgusting of conditions, while she raked in millions from corrupt financeers and dictators.

Hospice is about comfort, not suffering. Mother Theresa - what fucking classic piece of catholic shit - just like you Joe.

[native]

Yeah, the "suffering as virtue" bullshit the catholic church has been spewing for 2000 years.

You can leave religion and theology out of it. It is just an undeniable fact that the greatest understandings and the greatest abilities to empathize result from confronting and dealing with suffering and pain.

The human experience isn't about always avoiding pain and embracing comfort.

If a religion embraces suffering because, through suffering we become a better, more empathetic and understanding person, that's simply religion recognizing an undeniable truth and imparting to its followers a great wisdom.

Well said, Joe.

[JohnStOnge]

I've told you guys who look so forward to the death of "religion" this before and I'll tell you again:

If you get rid of the idea of something beyond us that sets the rules, there are no intrinsic rules. Particularly significant in our case is the fact the the philosophical underpinning of the idea that all men are endowed with unalienable rights is the concept outside of man that endows us with those rights.

You people think you're being intelligent. You think you're showing yourself to be enlightened. But you are attacking the only firm basis for contending that you have any rights at all. You are fools. And that is the case even if you are correct about the underlying reality.

[Grizalltheway]

I've told you guys who look so forward to the death of "religion" this before and I'll tell you again:

If you get rid of the idea of something beyond us that sets the rules, there are no intrinsic rules. Particularly significant in our case is the fact the the philosophical underpinning of the idea that all men are endowed with unalienable rights is the concept outside of man that endows us with those rights.

You people think you're being intelligent. You think you're showing yourself to be enlightened. But you are attacking the only firm basis for contending that you have any rights at all. You are fools. And that is the case even if you are correct about the underlying reality.

Why is organized religion necessary, John? Does it somehow validate one's beliefs in a higher power?

[houndawg]

I've told you guys who look so forward to the death of "religion" this before and I'll tell you again:

If you get rid of the idea of something beyond us that sets the rules, there are no intrinsic rules. Particularly significant in our case is the fact the the philosophical underpinning of the idea that all men are endowed with unalienable rights is the concept outside of man that endows us with those rights.

You people think you're being intelligent. You think you're showing yourself to be enlightened. But you are attacking the only firm basis for contending that you have any rights at all. You are fools. And that is the case even if you are correct about the underlying reality.

Jesus, John, get a grip.

[D1B]

I've told you guys who look so forward to the death of "religion" this before and I'll tell you again:

If you get rid of the idea of something beyond us that sets the rules, there are no intrinsic rules. Particularly significant in our case is the fact the the philosophical underpinning of the idea that all men are endowed with unalienable rights is the concept outside of man that endows us with those rights.

You people think you're being intelligent. You think you're showing yourself to be enlightened. But you are attacking the only firm basis for contending that you have any rights at all. You are fools. And that is the case even if you are correct about the underlying reality.

Jesus, John, get a grip.

What an asshat, just like Joltin Joe.

[D1B]

Yeah, the "suffering as virtue" bullshit the catholic church has been spewing for 2000 years.

You can leave religion and theology out of it. It is just an undeniable fact that the greatest understandings and the greatest abilities to empathize result from confronting and dealing with suffering and pain.

The human experience isn't about always avoiding pain and embracing comfort.

If a religion embraces suffering because, through suffering we become a better, more empathetic and understanding person, that's simply religion recognizing an undeniable truth and imparting to its followers a great wisdom.

Joe, your religion does not embrace, confront or deal with suffering, it deifies it. Suffering is the highest virture to you sick fucks. No one better exemplifies the sadistic and antihuman result of that crap than Mother Fucking Theresa! The people in her care, hospice care, died the most brutal and painful deaths because she thought that only through suffering will you be closer to Jesus. Fucking bitch was raking in millions from sheep and dictators who thought she was doing the work of jesus.

Hey Joe, how bout this "great wisdom"? Took you rocket scientists 2000 years to figure out that fucking children is wrong.

[JoltinJoe]

You can leave religion and theology out of it. It is just an undeniable fact that the greatest understandings and the greatest abilities to empathize result from confronting and dealing with suffering and pain.

The human experience isn't about always avoiding pain and embracing comfort.

If a religion embraces suffering because, through suffering we become a better, more empathetic and understanding person, that's simply religion recognizing an undeniable truth and imparting to its followers a great wisdom.

Joe, your religion does not embrace, confront or deal with suffering, it deifies it. Suffering is the highest virture to you sick ****. No one better exemplifies the sadistic and antihuman result of that crap than Mother **** Theresa! The people in her care, hospice care, died the most brutal and painful deaths because she thought that only through suffering will you be closer to Jesus. **** bitch was raking in millions from sheep and dictators who thought she was doing the work of jesus.

Hey Joe, how bout this "great wisdom"? Took you rocket scientists 2000 years to figure out that **** children is wrong.

Catholicism does not "deify" suffering and your frequently stated opinions about Mother Teresa are slanderous and based on gross distortions of a man who makes a lot of money duping contrarians into buying his books. If I didn't have a conscience, I could write those types of books and make a lot of money off people like you.

[Cap'n Cat]

Joe, your religion does not embrace, confront or deal with suffering, it deifies it. Suffering is the highest virture to you sick ****. No one better exemplifies the sadistic and antihuman result of that crap than Mother **** Theresa! The people in her care, hospice care, died the most brutal and painful deaths because she thought that only through suffering will you be closer to Jesus. **** bitch was raking in millions from sheep and dictators who thought she was doing the work of jesus.

Hey Joe, how bout this "great wisdom"? Took you rocket scientists 2000 years to figure out that **** children is wrong.

Catholicism does not "deify" suffering and your frequently stated opinions about Mother Teresa are slanderous and based on gross distortions of a man who makes a lot of money duping contrarians into buying his books. If I didn't have a conscience, I could write those types of books and make a lot of money off people like you.

Joe, you'd rocket right to the top of the bestseller list with a bio on D. He's led an interesting life.

[JoltinJoe]

Catholicism does not "deify" suffering and your frequently stated opinions about Mother Teresa are slanderous and based on gross distortions of a man who makes a lot of money duping contrarians into buying his books. If I didn't have a conscience, I could write those types of books and make a lot of money off people like you.

Joe, you'd rocket right to the top of the bestseller list with a bio on D. He's led an interesting life.

I'm already got his bio going in draft ... but I'm holding off on publishing until the final chapters -- his inevitable conversion to Christianity.

[Cap'n Cat]

Joe, you'd rocket right to the top of the bestseller list with a bio on D. He's led an interesting life.

I'm already got his bio going in draft ... but I'm holding off on publishing until the final chapters -- his inevitable conversion to Christianity.

Good morning, Joe!

[grizzaholic]

[Cap'n Cat]