A process that pointed the University of South Dakota toward sending its athletic programs to the Big Sky Conference has taken an abrupt turn.
At a news conference today in Vermillion, the school is expected to announce that it will join the Missouri Valley Football Conference while honoring its commitment to the Summit League in all other sports.
Since South Dakota State also belongs to Missouri Valley Football and the Summit, today’s announcement means the Coyotes and Jackrabbits will compete in the same league for all sports for the first time since they went NCAA Division I.
USD officials would not comment Wednesday on the 11th-hour negotiations, but word spread quickly that the school would be turning its back on the Big Sky, which welcomed the University of North Dakota and Southern Utah on Monday.
UND athletic director Brian Faison hinted during a UND coaches radio show Wednesday night that the Coyotes were not going to fall in line with the Sioux on Big Sky membership.
USD to the MVFC!?!?
USD to the MVFC!?!?
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Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Sounds like a done deal. Does this lead to a 2 division split.
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Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
or will YSU end up moving to another conference?pantherrob82 wrote:Sounds like a done deal. Does this lead to a 2 division split.
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After making the last 3 trips out there, I doubt it.JayJ79 wrote:or will YSU end up moving to another conference?pantherrob82 wrote:Sounds like a done deal. Does this lead to a 2 division split.
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YSU
IN St
SIU
WIU
Il St
NDSU
SDSU
USD
UNI
MSU
IN St
SIU
WIU
Il St
NDSU
SDSU
USD
UNI
MSU
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
would be an interesting breakdown.pantherrob82 wrote:YSU
IN St
SIU
WIU
Il St
NDSU
SDSU
USD
UNI
MSU
wonder how that would work... play the other 4 in your division every year, and then 4 of the 5 in the other division? Or would they go with a 7-game schedule (3 of the 5 out of the other division) to give more OOC flexibility? Would kind of be nice to have 4 OOC games to work with for UNI (2 FBS money games, buying a home game with someone, and 1 slot left to work in quality home-and-home series)
Though it would definitely be odd to have seasons where the Panthers and Salukis don't face off.
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I would like to play everyone, but I really wonder if the idea was to keep the league at a stable size while appeasing YSU. Doing two divisions would lighten the load on travel. If we are going to do two divisions I would like to add two more schools. Too bad we couldn't convince two schools out of Drake, Dayton, and Butler to go scholly.JayJ79 wrote:would be an interesting breakdown.pantherrob82 wrote:YSU
IN St
SIU
WIU
Il St
NDSU
SDSU
USD
UNI
MSU
wonder how that would work... play the other 4 in your division every year, and then 4 of the 5 in the other division? Or would they go with a 7-game schedule (3 of the 5 out of the other division) to give more OOC flexibility? Would kind of be nice to have 4 OOC games to work with for UNI (2 FBS money games, buying a home game with someone, and 1 slot left to work in quality home-and-home series)
Though it would definitely be odd to have seasons where the Panthers and Salukis don't face off.
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Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Well this is sort of an unexpected turn of events, chances North Dakota may change their minds on the Big Sky?
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At this point, is it even possible for UND to welch?
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It just gives Idaho more reason to come back.
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Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Maybe San Jose St can choose Big Sky or MVFC
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Yeah, cause travel wasn't already craptastic enough...
This conference blows. Too much competition.
This conference blows. Too much competition.
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Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
USD is in the extreme southeastern tip of SD, it shouldn't have much of an effect on travel.MSUBear42 wrote:Yeah, cause travel wasn't already craptastic enough...
This conference blows. Too much competition.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Guess I need to do more research.FargoBison wrote:USD is in the extreme southeastern tip of SD, it shouldn't have much of an effect on travel.MSUBear42 wrote:Yeah, cause travel wasn't already craptastic enough...
This conference blows. Too much competition.
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Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
This makes the BSC's offer to UND that much worse. How do you accept ONE of those two without having the other locked down?
BSC just got punked, big time. Having one UXD school looks fucking retarded on a map.
BSC just got punked, big time. Having one UXD school looks fucking retarded on a map.
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Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Let's all keep in mind that even though USD may be interested, doesn't it have to pass a vote by the current ADs and Presidents???
The league schedule is already bad enough. We don't need another conference game, we need more OOC games so that we can actually play some home games! Missouri State is only going to have 5 home games AGAIN next year because of the MVFC schedule.
If anything else, the MVFC needs to DROP schools.
The league schedule is already bad enough. We don't need another conference game, we need more OOC games so that we can actually play some home games! Missouri State is only going to have 5 home games AGAIN next year because of the MVFC schedule.
If anything else, the MVFC needs to DROP schools.
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Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
It's to early in the morning to be drinking that heavilyMSUBear42 wrote:Let's all keep in mind that even though USD may be interested, doesn't it have to pass a vote by the current ADs and Presidents???
The league schedule is already bad enough. We don't need another conference game, we need more OOC games so that we can actually play some home games! Missouri State is only going to have 5 home games AGAIN next year because of the MVFC schedule.
If anything else, the MVFC needs to DROP schools.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Wow, I just did a HUGE post for another thread.....this thread voids that whole post I guess.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Are you trying to say you''d like just playing 2 non conference games every year? I just don't see the MVFC doing divisions with just 10 teams.BisonBacker wrote:It's to early in the morning to be drinking that heavilyMSUBear42 wrote:Let's all keep in mind that even though USD may be interested, doesn't it have to pass a vote by the current ADs and Presidents???
The league schedule is already bad enough. We don't need another conference game, we need more OOC games so that we can actually play some home games! Missouri State is only going to have 5 home games AGAIN next year because of the MVFC schedule.
If anything else, the MVFC needs to DROP schools.
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Will UND try and go MVFC?
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
I don't like the conference playing just two OOC games, and I'm not sure it would happen.MSUBear42 wrote:Are you trying to say you''d like just playing 2 non conference games every year? I just don't see the MVFC doing divisions with just 10 teams.BisonBacker wrote:
It's to early in the morning to be drinking that heavily
That means the teams would play one FBS school (more often than not) and one FCS or lower OOC game. That means teams are going to lose a home game, possibly....amidst other pretty big implications.
I see a 5 team division, with 3 OOC games, and 3 games against the other division.
The only issue there is the "rivalry" games.
SIU/UNI and whatever else. The SIU/UNI is the only game I really care about saving. UNI/YSU maybe, but that's a meh for me.
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I like that way much better, should this move happen.
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Credit Tom Douple with this from the Summit League, he worked his ass off with the MVFC to make this happen. Here's a write up from the AL website. Oh you stupid sioux, with your dumb name controversy. How will 13 teams work in the Big Sky?weberwildcat wrote:Will UND try and go MVFC?
Jackrabbit Nation will be split, but for the most part the Summit needed USD and got rid of SUU travel expenses. Really collapsed our footprint a little in the Summit, now only Oral Bob is a distance. That's a win.
As for football the Coyotes have two natural rivalries, and are trying to build one with UNI. It's good for the confernce in my opinion.
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I've been pretty "against" USD in the MVFC, but I think this could be a good move. It "might" be protection against the realignment crap in the future.Theee Catrabbit wrote:Credit Tom Douple with this from the Summit League, he worked his ass off with the MVFC to make this happen. Here's a write up from the AL website. Oh you stupid sioux, with your dumb name controversy. How will 13 teams work in the Big Sky?weberwildcat wrote:Will UND try and go MVFC?
Jackrabbit Nation will be split, but for the most part the Summit needed USD and got rid of SUU travel expenses. Really collapsed our footprint a little in the Summit, now only Oral Bob is a distance. That's a win.
As for football the Coyotes have two natural rivalries, and are trying to build one with UNI. It's good for the confernce in my opinion.
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