Why did the Democrats lose?

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Re: "Refudiation of Obama"

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First, Dubya was not an ideological crusader. He did not set out to use executive power to change the system.
Do you seriously type this shit with a straight face?

google "bush and executive power" sometime.
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Re: "Refudiation of Obama"

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native wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
The same could be said of Dubya.

Not at all, bh.

First, Dubya was not an ideological crusader. He did not set out to use executive power to change the system.

Second, Bush hired his share of partisan hacks, but he was not surrounded exclusively by partisan hack as is Obama. Andy Card, for example, was a great Chief of Staff and NOT a partisan hack. His public service professionalism stands in stark contrast to the Chicago homers hired by Obama.

Colin Powell, Robert Gates, Condi Rice, and Dick Cheney all brought legitimate public service experience to the table.

Third, Dubya was a loyal boss but fired people when necessary. Rumsfeld, for example.

Man, native, you are just nuckin' futs! What the fuck was Rove? You're as hateful as SeattleGriz, dude.
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Re: Why did the Democrats lose?

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AZGrizFan wrote:
There's no winners amongst US. We're all losers when douchebags like these guys are in charge.
Yeah, but don't exaggerate it, Z. The overwhelming majority of legislators are decent people who are doing the right thing. And the supposed "bad guys", Left and Right, (ex DeLay and Rangel) have to have some big ass balls to take on the insults, spears and arrows they do every swingle minute from every corner.

I blame the media for 75% of the alleged mess.
I would agree that the overwhelming majority are decent people when the ARRIVE, but very shortly the overwhelming majority are either corrupted by the power or overwhelmed by their inability to be effective AND still be able to look themselves in the mirror and sleep at night.....
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Re: Why did the Democrats lose?

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AZGrizFan wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:
Yeah, but don't exaggerate it, Z. The overwhelming majority of legislators are decent people who are doing the right thing. And the supposed "bad guys", Left and Right, (ex DeLay and Rangel) have to have some big ass balls to take on the insults, spears and arrows they do every swingle minute from every corner.

I blame the media for 75% of the alleged mess.
I would agree that the overwhelming majority are decent people when the ARRIVE, but very shortly the overwhelming majority are either corrupted by the power or overwhelmed by their inability to be effective AND still be able to look themselves in the mirror and sleep at night.....

Certainly, there's some of that.
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