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[UNHWildCats]

since when is the truth a stretch?

Savannah State IS NOT part of the 2010 MEAC Football Conference... This is a FACT!

Spin aside.

Savannah State is fucking terrible.

So is Miss Valley State.

Beating either means nothing and there's a reason the MEAC is the worst rated conference in FCS.

yes they are terrible, and yes the MEAC is terrible.... but presenti8ng false facts wont help an argument regardless. Why will SC State get a at-large bid? Because they are South Carolina State. Had it been Morgan State or North Carolina A&T in their position they likely dont get in... but SC State has a recent history which will give them an upper hand. Though I still wont discount the chance that they step over the 7 win guideline this year and keep Montana's streak alive.

[∞∞∞]

So when's the selection show and is it on ESPN2 again? Will it be a joke like last year?

Also, Liberty deserves an at-large over ANY MEAC team.

[UNHWildCats]

So when's the selection show and is it on ESPN2 again? Will it be a joke like last year?

Also, Liberty deserves an at-large over ANY MEAC team.

10 AM ESPNU

[ToTheLeft]

So when's the selection show and is it on ESPN2 again? Will it be a joke like last year?

Also, Liberty deserves an at-large over ANY MEAC team.

It's on ESPNU at 10 AM.

And thanks for your support.

[∞∞∞]

So when's the selection show and is it on ESPN2 again? Will it be a joke like last year?

Also, Liberty deserves an at-large over ANY MEAC team.

10 AM ESPNU

What day?

[UNHWildCats]

So when's the selection show and is it on ESPN2 again? Will it be a joke like last year?

Also, Liberty deserves an at-large over ANY MEAC team.

perhaps... but the committee will pick SC State over a second Big South team. Right or wrong, they will.

[UNHWildCats]

10 AM ESPNU

What day?

tomorrow morning Eastern time.

[∞∞∞]

What day?

tomorrow morning Eastern time.

Wow that's fast! Me likey very much.

Still too early though for a Sunday.

Thanks.

[UNHWildCats]

tomorrow morning Eastern time.

Wow that's fast! Me likey very much.

Still too early though for a Sunday.

Thanks.

i think in years past it was early afternoon... was kinda surprised when I saw in the handbook yesterday that it was at 10 AM

[ToTheLeft]

My take... a less "cut and dry" version...

AQ's:

William and Mary
Montana State
Bethune Cookman
App State
Northern Iowa
Lehigh
Robert Morris
Coastal Carolina
Stephen F Austin
Jacksonville State

AL's:

Locks/Very Likely In:
EWU
Delaware
Villanova
New Hampshire
Western Illinois
Wofford
SEMO
GA Southern

That's 8

Then you need to pick 2 from:

NDSU, SCSU, FAMU, Liberty, ODU, Jacksonville, Dayton, CCSU, Duquense, Colgate

Not sure SEMO is a lock over Liberty. Both played Ball State, LU won, SEMO lost. But SEMO doesn't have a loss as bad as Coastal.

*** THIS IS ASSUMING THE COMMITTEE STICKS TO 7 WINS ***

If they take 6 win teams, add in JMU and Montana and Sac State to the mix.

[UNHWildCats]

My take... a less "cut and dry" version...

AQ's:

William and Mary
Montana State
Bethune Cookman
App State
Northern Iowa
Lehigh
Robert Morris
Coastal Carolina
Stephen F Austin
Jacksonville State

AL's:

Locks/Very Likely In:
EWU
Delaware
Villanova
New Hampshire
Western Illinois
Wofford
SEMO
GA Southern

That's 8

Then you need to pick 2 from:

NDSU, SCSU, FAMU, Liberty, ODU, Jacksonville, Dayton, CCSU, Duquense, Colgate

Not sure SEMO is a lock over Liberty. Both played Ball State, LU won, SEMO lost. But SEMO doesn't have a loss as bad as Coastal.

*** THIS IS ASSUMING THE COMMITTEE STICKS TO 7 WINS ***

If they take 6 win teams, add in JMU and Montana and Sac State to the mix.

you can eliminate FAMU cause no way MEAC is gonna get three and no chance FAMU gets in ahead of SCSU.

[ToTheLeft]

Colgate isn't getting in, nor is Duquense. I put them up since they're eligible, and will be a part of the process. You never know if one of those teams will be the "Maine" to the the other team's "William and Mary", if you catch my reference.

And FAMU beat BC-U, something SCSU couldn't do. I'm not sold on SCSU having any kind of resume to separate it from anyone...

If the committee really does put in SCSU because they played App well on ESPN and they're an HBCU who brings in $$$, then why put out a handbook that says you have criteria for selection?

[UNHWildCats]

Colgate isn't getting in, nor is Duquense. I put them up since they're eligible, and will be a part of the process. You never know if one of those teams will be the "Maine" to the the other team's "William and Mary", if you catch my reference.

And FAMU beat BC-U, something SCSU couldn't do. I'm not sold on SCSU having any kind of resume to separate it from anyone...

If the committee really does put in SCSU because they played App well on ESPN and they're an HBCU who brings in $$$, then why put out a handbook that says you have criteria for selection?

and SCSU beat A&M 19-0

[UNHWildCats]

Colgate isn't getting in, nor is Duquense. I put them up since they're eligible, and will be a part of the process. You never know if one of those teams will be the "Maine" to the the other team's "William and Mary", if you catch my reference.

And FAMU beat BC-U, something SCSU couldn't do. I'm not sold on SCSU having any kind of resume to separate it from anyone...

If the committee really does put in SCSU because they played App well on ESPN and they're an HBCU who brings in $$$, then why put out a handbook that says you have criteria for selection?

Has South Carolina State not met all written criteria to be eligible for an at-large bid?

[ToTheLeft]

Colgate isn't getting in, nor is Duquense. I put them up since they're eligible, and will be a part of the process. You never know if one of those teams will be the "Maine" to the the other team's "William and Mary", if you catch my reference.

And FAMU beat BC-U, something SCSU couldn't do. I'm not sold on SCSU having any kind of resume to separate it from anyone...

If the committee really does put in SCSU because they played App well on ESPN and they're an HBCU who brings in $$$, then why put out a handbook that says you have criteria for selection?

Has South Carolina State not met all written criteria to be eligible for an at-large bid?

Yes, and so has Duquense.

There are criteria to make it in, and criteria to separate who should be in. Playing an all DI schedule (SCSU didn't) and an FBS team (NDSU and LU did and beat theirs, whereas SCSU lost to theirs) are specifically in the criteria.

[SeattleGriz]

What does the NCAA computer/human ranking machine say?

I am betting some teams with 8 or 9 DI wins don't get in at the expense of those from the traditional power conferences.

CAA, Southern and Big Sky.

I am leaving out the MVC just to show DJH he really needs to get off of Montana's dick. Whiner.

[UNHWildCats]

Has South Carolina State not met all written criteria to be eligible for an at-large bid?

Yes, and so has Duquense.

There are criteria to make it in, and criteria to separate who should be in. Playing an all DI schedule (SCSU didn't) and an FBS team (NDSU and LU did and beat theirs, whereas SCSU lost to theirs) are specifically in the criteria.

4. The committee may give more consideration to those teams that have played all Division I opponents

Also there is nothing... NOTHING about FBS opponents in the criteria.

[ToTheLeft]

It says may a lot of times Travis, don't get your panties in a wad over stupid technicalities.

And I coulda sworn it mentioned FBS opponents. My mistake. Regardless, it's just as likely the committee will look at that as it is that they'll look at last year's playoffs and see SCSU playing App on ESPN.

[freebird]

My take... a less "cut and dry" version...

AQ's:

William and Mary
Montana State
Bethune Cookman
App State
Northern Iowa
Lehigh
Robert Morris
Coastal Carolina
Stephen F Austin
Jacksonville State

AL's:

Locks/Very Likely In:
EWU
Delaware
Villanova
New Hampshire
Western Illinois
Wofford
SEMO
GA Southern

That's 8

Then you need to pick 2 from:

NDSU, SCSU, FAMU, Liberty, ODU, Jacksonville, Dayton, CCSU, Duquense, Colgate

Not sure SEMO is a lock over Liberty. Both played Ball State, LU won, SEMO lost. But SEMO doesn't have a loss as bad as Coastal.

*** THIS IS ASSUMING THE COMMITTEE STICKS TO 7 WINS ***

If they take 6 win teams, add in JMU and Montana and Sac State to the mix.

you can eliminate FAMU cause no way MEAC is gonna get three and no chance FAMU gets in ahead of SCSU.

I think that's a pretty logical way of looking at it.

I'd take NDSU, but I'm not really sure what to do with my last pick. I'd probably pick Jacksonville to throw the PFL a bone, though this would unquestionably piss off Dayton.

When all is said and done, the end goal is to crown a champion, and I don't think any of the 8 left over to choose from would logically be considered contenders for that.

[DJH]

What does the NCAA computer/human ranking machine say?

I am betting some teams with 8 or 9 DI wins don't get in at the expense of those from the traditional power conferences.

CAA, Southern and Big Sky.

I am leaving out the MVC just to show DJH he really needs to get off of Montana's dick. Whiner.

wtf are you talking about?

[BDKJMU]

What does the NCAA computer/human ranking machine say?

I am betting some teams with 8 or 9 DI wins don't get in at the expense of those from the traditional power conferences.

CAA, Southern and Big Sky.

I am leaving out the MVC just to show DJH he really needs to get off of Montana's dick. Whiner.

GPI? Heading into this weekend:
1. Delaware (1.00)
2. Appalachian State (2.25)
3. Eastern Washington (3.25)
4. William & Mary (4.375)
5. Stephen F. Austin (5.25)
6. Jacksonville State (7.125)
7. Montana State (7.875)
8. New Hampshire (9.50)
9. Northern Iowa (9.75)
10. Wofford (9.875)
11. Villanova (11.50)
12. Montana (15.00)
13. Sacramento State (15.50)
14. Massachusetts (15.875)
15. North Dakota State (16.50)
16. Chattanooga (17.875)
17. Southeast Missouri State (18.25)
18. Richmond (18.375)
19. James Madison (20.875)
20. Georgia Southern (21.00)
21. Western Illinois (21.125)
22. Weber State (22.875)
23. Northern Arizona (23.875)
24. Penn (24.00)
24. McNeese State (24.875)
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50. SC State
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SC State hasn't beaten a single team worth a damn. If they were in the CAA they would be somewhere between 0-8 and 2-6. If SC State got in it would be the biggest joke ever....

[ToTheLeft]

SCSU beat NC A&T this week, who were ranked in the 120's in the GPI, LU beat Stony Brook, who was in the 60's. LU was already ahead of the Bulldogs.

Neither team has a better resume than Sac State, Montana, or JMU, but if they stick to 7 wins, LU belongs in over SCSU.

[UNHWildCats]

What does the NCAA computer/human ranking machine say?

I am betting some teams with 8 or 9 DI wins don't get in at the expense of those from the traditional power conferences.

CAA, Southern and Big Sky.

I am leaving out the MVC just to show DJH he really needs to get off of Montana's dick. Whiner.

GPI? Heading into this weekend:
1. Delaware (1.00)
2. Appalachian State (2.25)
3. Eastern Washington (3.25)
4. William & Mary (4.375)
5. Stephen F. Austin (5.25)
6. Jacksonville State (7.125)
7. Montana State (7.875)
8. New Hampshire (9.50)
9. Northern Iowa (9.75)
10. Wofford (9.875)
11. Villanova (11.50)
12. Montana (15.00)
13. Sacramento State (15.50)
14. Massachusetts (15.875)
15. North Dakota State (16.50)
16. Chattanooga (17.875)
17. Southeast Missouri State (18.25)
18. Richmond (18.375)
19. James Madison (20.875)
20. Georgia Southern (21.00)
21. Western Illinois (21.125)
22. Weber State (22.875)
23. Northern Arizona (23.875)
24. Penn (24.00)
24. McNeese State (24.875)
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50. SC State
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SC State hasn't beaten a single team worth a damn. If they were in the CAA they would be somewhere between 0-8 and 2-6. If SC State got in it would be the biggest joke ever....

fair enough, but according to those rankings South Carolina State even though 50th overall is still 21st among playoff eligible teams... Jacksonville is ahead of them as is Liberty.

[ToTheLeft]

Hold the phone!

Jacksonville State loses!

[siuham]

Hold the phone!

Jacksonville State loses!

Only affects seeding imo. JSU is still an at-large team.