Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

[Skjellyfetti]

Dont talk too much sh:t bc we (ill be at EVERY PLAYOFF GAME) might be down there in a few weeks to kick the sht out of Crapp state u fvckin party boys.

If we only lose by 3 do I get to brag about the fact that we ALMOST beat you for the next three years?

[Appaholic]

All either of you are playing for is for a chance to get a refresher course on getting your ass kicked in Boone.....yet again....

Really? bc i thought Armanti Edwards played for Carolina now. Question, IF YOU CANT WIN THE NC WITH ARMANTI EDWARDS, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK U CAN WIN IT WITHOUT HIM?. App State's best win is NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL ASU is overrated, and im makin it my personal business that EWU HOIST that NC trophy ya bastard. See ya in Frico W&M.

Yes, NCCU is our best win obviously....not the Wofford victory. Also, we did win a NC with Armanti...two as a matter of fact....which would be 2 more than EWU has ever won on any color field.....And EWU's best victory is who? Montana? Not in the playoffs. NAU? Not inthe playoffs. MSU? Ooops.....

[Appaholic]

Dont talk too much sh:t bc we (ill be at EVERY PLAYOFF GAME) might be down there in a few weeks to kick the sht out of Crapp state u fvckin party boys.

If we only lose by 3 do I get to brag about the fact that we ALMOST beat you for the next three years?

Stop Jelly, it's the only bright spot in their program's history outside of the red turf...don't begrudge them an almost victory over an Armanti-led App St team....

[BlackFalkin]

It's a shame you have to resort to the field itself for publicity since the product ON THE FIELD has never accomplished anything worthy of publicity... ...you still wanna make that bet on EWU winning the NC?

#1 That Red turf has got more pub that apps 3 NCs: FACT
#2 EWU has 3 conf titles in the past 7 seasons.
#3 EWU has 1 WPA winner.
#4 EWU has 1 BBA winner.
#5 EWU has 5 playoff appearances in last 7 seasons.
#6 EWU is UNDEFEATED on the RED turf.
#7 EWU will win the 2010 FCS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

[BlackFalkin]

EWU doesnt say "Red is the new Green" for nothin!

[DBlue]

.....But I still think we had at least an equal resume to Delaware. Their best win(s) were JMU (6-5 #14 Sagarin), UMASS (6-5, #17), Richmond (6-5 #24), and our wins were against Sac (6-5 #11), NAU (6-5 #15), and Montana (7-4 #23). Throw in Weber (#26) and SUU (#27) and we have 5 wins against the Sagarin top 30. Delaware has only 3 and you have to go all the way to Maine at #41 to find their next. So I'm not so sure they had a signifcantly more difficult road to hoe, and they certainly didn't have as many quality wins or one quality win better than any of ours. And again, we had a better OOC resume.

OK, you want to use Sagarin to seed teams......

65 Delaware...................70.09
87 Eastern Washington......66.02

Who should be seeded higher?

[Appaholic]

It's a shame you have to resort to the field itself for publicity since the product ON THE FIELD has never accomplished anything worthy of publicity... ...you still wanna make that bet on EWU winning the NC?

#1 That Red turf has got more pub that apps 3 NCs: FACT
#2 EWU has 3 conf titles in the past 7 seasons.
#3 EWU has 1 WPA winner.
#4 EWU has 1 BBA winner.
#5 EWU has 5 playoff appearances in last 7 seasons.
#6 EWU is UNDEFEATED on the RED turf.
#7 EWU will win the 2010 FCS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

#1 App St has led the nation in game attendance 3 years running
#2 App St has 6 conf titles in past 6 seasons
#3 App St has the only 2-time WPA winner
#4 App St has 1 BBA winner.
#5 App St has 6 playoff appearances in last 6 seasons.
#6 App St is UNDEFEATED in the NC game
#7 App St may not win the 2010 FCS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, but it won't be EWU that keeps them from winning it.

[kalm]

Neither did Delaware.

Again, you have to look at wins AND loses. Delaware didn't beat any playoff teams, but they lost to two playoff teams by 1 point and in overtime. They also beat several bubble teams. EWU also didn't beat any playoff teams, but they had a major loss to the only playoff team they played.

I'm not saying there is a clear distinction between each seed, but there is justification.

Of course there's justification, but the only justification other than history and dollars appears to be Delaware's losses being closer.

I would say who you lose to is just as important as by how much. Both team's only losses are to quality opponents. Delaware gets the nod in that category because of EWU's blow out loss. But as I posted earlier Eastern has more quality wins with 5 in the Sagarin top 30 whereas Delaware only has 3. And again, EWU's ooc Nevada, CWU, and SUU is signicantly better than SDSU, Westchester, and Duquesne.

As you've pointed out it's both wins and losses that count.

[appvette]

Again, you have to look at wins AND loses. Delaware didn't beat any playoff teams, but they lost to two playoff teams by 1 point and in overtime. They also beat several bubble teams. EWU also didn't beat any playoff teams, but they had a major loss to the only playoff team they played.

I'm not saying there is a clear distinction between each seed, but there is justification.

Of course there's justification, but the only justification other than history and dollars appears to be Delaware's losses being closer.

I would say who you lose to is just as important as by how much. Both team's only losses are to quality opponents. Delaware gets the nod in that category because of EWU's blow out loss. But as I posted earlier Eastern has more quality wins with 5 in the Sagarin top 30 whereas Delaware only has 3. And again, EWU's ooc Nevada, CWU, and SUU is signicantly better than SDSU, Westchester, and Duquesne.

As you've pointed out it's both wins and losses that count.

If you're going to use Sagarin to compare teams, then why not just use the individual Sagarin ranking of each team?

[BlackFalkin]

Stop Jelly, it's the only bright spot in their program's history outside of the red turf...don't begrudge them an almost victory over an Armanti-led App St team....

Let me put it in hick terms. If yalls bearly beats the boys from Wershington wit Armanee, den ya prolly caint win witout em e-der. Yuk!

[DBlue]

If you're going to use Sagarin to compare teams, then why not just use the individual Sagarin ranking of each team?

Beat you to it, look up 3 posts from yours.

[SpeedkingATL]

I didn't realize 3rd graders were EWU fans. You brag about winning the NC this year while whining about the seeding. Damn just beat who you play. Your best playoff performance this decade was a 3 point loss. It will be very interesting to see if anyone other than a SoCon or CAA team can win a NC since it hasn't happened since...let's see...1992???

Let the games begin.

[BlackFalkin]

"Appaholic" wrote,

#1 App St has led the nation in game attendance 3 years running BETTER THAN SWAC & IVY? NOPE!
#2 App St has 6 conf titles in past 6 seasons IN THE FOURTH BEST FCS CONF, NOT HARD TO DO.
#3 App St has the only 2-time WPA winner DIDNT DESERVE IT, UM KICKED HIS @SS
#4 App St has 1 BBA winner.
#5 App St has 6 playoff appearances in last 6 seasons. AGAIN, AB FROM A DOO DOO CONF!
#6 App St is UNDEFEATED in the NC game WOW, EWU IS ABOUT TO BE 1-0 IN THE NC TOO

#7 App St wont win the 2010 FCS NAT Champ, AND IT'LL BE EWU THAT WINS IT!

[appvette]

"Appaholic" wrote,

#1 App St has led the nation in game attendance 3 years running BETTER THAN SWAC & IVY? NOPE! - Which team(s) had higher average attendance?
#2 App St has 6 conf titles in past 6 seasons IN THE FOURTH BEST FCS CONF, NOT HARD TO DO. Correction - second best.
#3 App St has the only 2-time WPA winner DIDNT DESERVE IT, UM KICKED HIS @SS - Keep riding the coat tails of UM's success since EWU can't seem to do anything on their own.
#4 App St has 1 BBA winner. - Also the only 2-time BBA winner.
#5 App St has 6 playoff appearances in last 6 seasons. AGAIN, AB FROM A DOO DOO CONF! The conference with the most national championships.
#6 App St is UNDEFEATED in the NC game WOW, EWU IS ABOUT TO BE 1-0 IN THE NC TOO Even if EWU did win this year, 3 > 1.

[jd of de]

Obviously they don't teach humility in Eastern Washington.

[State Line Liquors]

Again, you have to look at wins AND loses. Delaware didn't beat any playoff teams, but they lost to two playoff teams by 1 point and in overtime. They also beat several bubble teams. EWU also didn't beat any playoff teams, but they had a major loss to the only playoff team they played.

I'm not saying there is a clear distinction between each seed, but there is justification.

Of course there's justification, but the only justification other than history and dollars appears to be Delaware's losses being closer.

I would say who you lose to is just as important as by how much. Both team's only losses are to quality opponents. Delaware gets the nod in that category because of EWU's blow out loss. But as I posted earlier Eastern has more quality wins with 5 in the Sagarin top 30 whereas Delaware only has 3. And again, EWU's ooc Nevada, CWU, and SUU is signicantly better than SDSU, Westchester, and Duquesne.

As you've pointed out it's both wins and losses that count.

OK, so how many more reasons other than history, dollars and close losses do you need? Since Sagarin is so important, should we go based upon the fact that he's got UD ranked as the highest FCS team?

I know the controversy and disagreement are the lifeblood of a message board, but everyone still actually has to win football games to be a champion. It all works itself out at the end of the day. JMU won the tourney in '04 with all their games on the road. UD was in the championship in 2007 with the 13th seed and only 1 home game in the playoffs. In short, EWU is a top 5 seed. Take care of yourselves and it will all work out. Your road to the semis is probably as easy as it comes if history is any indicator.

[Appaholic]

Stop Jelly, it's the only bright spot in their program's history outside of the red turf...don't begrudge them an almost victory over an Armanti-led App St team....

Let me put it in hick terms. If yalls bearly beats the boys from Wershington wit Armanee, den ya prolly caint win witout em e-der. Yuk!

Whodat? U gotsta win de champ'shep 'fore you claim tobe de champs....beeeyotch!

[griz8791]

. . . DIDNT DESERVE IT, UM KICKED HIS @SS. . .

Wow, I was there but I must have missed the part about kicking AE's ass. You'd think I would have noticed that.

[BlackFalkin]

How is EWU riding UM's coat tails when MONTANA KICKED THE SHT OUTTA ASU LAST YEAR, and EWU KICKED THE SHT OUTTA montana this year?

[89Hen]

everyone still actually has to win football games to be a champion. It all works itself out at the end of the day. JMU won the tourney in '04 with all their games on the road. UD was in the championship in 2007 with the 13th seed and only 1 home game in the playoffs.

Something that is lost on many. People love to bitch about having to go on the road or playing teams from your own conference too much (especially those in a conference that rhymes with Fig Pie)... everyone does it, some just win instead of whine.

[Skjellyfetti]

So, according to BF... winning by 7 is kicking the shit out of the other team.... and losing by 3 is the same as beating the other team since it was so close.

[kittiekop]

Neither did Delaware.

Again, you have to look at wins AND loses. Delaware didn't beat any playoff teams, but they lost to two playoff teams by 1 point and in overtime. They also beat several bubble teams. EWU also didn't beat any playoff teams, but they had a major loss to the only playoff team they played.

I'm not saying there is a clear distinction between each seed, but there is justification.

And that playoff team would be.....????

Yeah, MSU. That would be the reason you're seeded below us.

[BlackFalkin]

So, according to BF... winning by 7 is kicking the shit out of the other team.... and losing by 3 is the same as beating the other team since it was so close.

EWU will make it easy for you this year BY KICKING THE DOG SHT OUTTA CRAPP STATE. Recon yall wud probably commit suicide afta dat. I Recon you inbred hicks can fix up sum possom soup for tail gaitn' sho sounds guud!

See ya in Frisco W&M

[BlackFalkin]

And that playoff team would be.....????

Yeah, MSU. That would be the reason you're seeded below us.

Here we go again, some msu fan behind the 8-ball, doesnt even realize RMU is gonna kick the dog sht outta MSU. & EWU is gonna kick tha sht outta them on the INFERNO!

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

How is EWU riding UM's coat tails when MONTANA KICKED THE SHT OUTTA ASU LAST YEAR, and EWU KICKED THE SHT OUTTA montana this year?

Sadly we are a shell of the former team this year.