Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:
BlackFalkin wrote:How is EWU riding UM's coat tails when MONTANA KICKED THE SHT OUTTA ASU LAST YEAR, and EWU KICKED THE SHT OUTTA montana this year?
Sadly we are a shell of the former team this year.

Lost Mariani.

But Big Sky overall is much improved
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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dbackjon wrote:
GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:
Sadly we are a shell of the former team this year.

Lost Mariani.

But Big Sky overall is much improved
Love Mariani but even he would have deteriorated if we had him this year. You did see Chase this year right?

Mariani would have been a huge help on punt returns where blockers weren't running into him though. :lol:
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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BF doing everything in his power to make sure nobody roots for EWU along the way. :lol:
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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We all love an underdog, we all love that small directional school with a 5,000 seat stadium, then expands a little bit, new unis, expands a little more, increases enrollment, earns a BSC title, New unis again, another bsc title, playoffs, Walter payton award winner, bba winner, bsc POY , another bsc title, all americans, red turf, NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. EWU has done more in the past 7 years than the past 70 years. EWU already announced that the new video scoreboard is coming in the off season, and YOU ALREADY KNOW, that theyre gonna upgrade the visitors section (hopefully soon). EWU has become a REGIONAL powerhouse, and when they win that NC game its gonna be a wrap. EWU ftw.
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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BlackFalkin wrote:
kittiekop wrote:
And that playoff team would be.....????

Yeah, MSU. That would be the reason you're seeded below us.
:roll: Here we go again, some msu fan behind the 8-ball, doesnt even realize RMU is gonna kick the dog sht outta MSU. & EWU is gonna kick tha sht outta them on the INFERNO! :coffee:
Haven t we heard this crap before this year, oh yeah, 30-7
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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BlackFalkin wrote:We all love an underdog, we all love that small directional school with a 5,000 seat stadium, then expands a little bit, new unis, expands a little more, increases enrollment, earns a BSC title, New unis again, another bsc title, playoffs, Walter payton award winner, bba winner, bsc POY , another bsc title, all americans, red turf, NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. EWU has done more in the past 7 years than the past 70 years. EWU already announced that the new video scoreboard is coming in the off season, and YOU ALREADY KNOW, that theyre gonna upgrade the visitors section (hopefully soon). EWU has become a REGIONAL powerhouse, and when they win that NC game its gonna be a wrap. EWU ftw.
All that and a 2-4 playoff record this decade. Nice! :thumb:
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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Of course there's justification, but the only justification other than history and dollars appears to be Delaware's losses being closer.

I would say who you lose to is just as important as by how much. Both team's only losses are to quality opponents. Delaware gets the nod in that category because of EWU's blow out loss. But as I posted earlier Eastern has more quality wins with 5 in the Sagarin top 30 whereas Delaware only has 3. And again, EWU's ooc Nevada, CWU, and SUU is signicantly better than SDSU, Westchester, and Duquesne.

As you've pointed out it's both wins and losses that count. :nod:
OK, so how many more reasons other than history, dollars and close losses do you need? Since Sagarin is so important, should we go based upon the fact that he's got UD ranked as the highest FCS team?

I know the controversy and disagreement are the lifeblood of a message board, but everyone still actually has to win football games to be a champion. It all works itself out at the end of the day. JMU won the tourney in '04 with all their games on the road. UD was in the championship in 2007 with the 13th seed and only 1 home game in the playoffs. In short, EWU is a top 5 seed. Take care of yourselves and it will all work out. Your road to the semis is probably as easy as it comes if history is any indicator.
You might want to try reading the entire thread for context before you comment. If you do, you'll find that:

1) I have very little problem with where we're seeded and actually think the bracket works in our favor.

2) Was making the point that even though history and $'s aren't suppose to matter in the seeding process, they clearly do which leads to...

3) Part of the reason Delaware got seeded ahead of EWU while admitting that UD's Sagarin ranking was also a factor. :oops: But if you were to put Montana's name behind EWU's resume I bet Delaware would be the 5th seed and we would be the 3.

and last, but not least

4) The views and comments of one Black Falkin do not neccessarily represent those held by Eastern Washington University, it's fans, administration, or sponsors. :mrgreen:
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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SpeedkingATL wrote:I didn't realize 3rd graders were EWU fans. You brag about winning the NC this year while whining about the seeding. Damn just beat who you play. Your best playoff performance this decade was a 3 point loss. It will be very interesting to see if anyone other than a SoCon or CAA team can win a NC since it hasn't happened since...let's see...1992???

Let the games begin.
Ummmm, technically it's a new decade. But if you were referring to the last ten years, our playoff road wins against #1 SIU in 2004, and blow out of #1 McNeese in 2007 were just a tad bit better. :coffee:
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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kalm wrote:our playoff road wins against #1 SIU in 2004, and blow out of #1 McNeese in 2007 were just a tad bit better. :coffee:
What happened the next week?
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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SpeedkingATL wrote:Your best playoff performance this decade was a 3 point loss.
2004 vs #1 seed Southern Illinois - 35-31 W
2007 vs #1 seed Mcneese State - 45-15 W

:coffee:
SpeedkingATL wrote:It will be very interesting to see if anyone other than a SoCon or CAA team can win a NC since it hasn't happened since...let's see...1992???
Huh?

Anyway, enough of this shit. I'm ready to enjoy the playoffs. Still think the seedings were bs, and you can't tell me the UD and Bill and Mary folks wouldn't think the same if the roles were reversed.
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EWURanger wrote:Still think the seedings were bs, and you can't tell me the UD and Bill and Mary folks wouldn't think the same if the roles were reversed.
Of course they would... because that would be BS. ;)
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:our playoff road wins against #1 SIU in 2004, and blow out of #1 McNeese in 2007 were just a tad bit better. :coffee:
What happened the next week?
We lost to them by 3 - UD lost to them by 28 in the finals.

What's your point?
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:our playoff road wins against #1 SIU in 2004, and blow out of #1 McNeese in 2007 were just a tad bit better. :coffee:
What happened the next week?
They won since App was giving up 4 pts at home. They would have continued, but were tired & wanted to get back for finals. So, the NCAA let App advance instead....
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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EWURanger wrote:We lost to them by 3 - UD lost to them by 28 in the finals.

What's your point?
I'm surprised you knew what happened in the finals. My bad, I already forgot that close losses counted as wins to EWU fans. :lol:
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AND GUESS WHAT?
TAIWAN JONES = BIG SKY OFF MVP
JC SHERRITT = BIG SKY DEF MVP
= EWU CANT BE STOPPED

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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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89Hen wrote:
EWURanger wrote:We lost to them by 3 - UD lost to them by 28 in the finals.

What's your point?
I'm surprised you knew what happened in the finals. My bad, I already forgot that close losses counted as wins to EWU fans. :lol:
Dude. Come on.
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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BlackFalkin wrote:AND GUESS WHAT?
TAIWAN JONES = CO-BIG SKY OFF MVP
JC SHERRITT = BIG SKY DEF MVP
= EWU CANT BE STOPPED

http://www.bigskyconf.com/news/2010/11/ ... 00211.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
FIFY.
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EWURanger wrote:
89Hen wrote: I'm surprised you knew what happened in the finals. My bad, I already forgot that close losses counted as wins to EWU fans. :lol:
Dude. Come on.
You can thank BF for all the arrows pointed at EWU today. ;)
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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cats2506 wrote:
BlackFalkin wrote:
:roll: Here we go again, some msu fan behind the 8-ball, doesnt even realize RMU is gonna kick the dog sht outta MSU. & EWU is gonna kick tha sht outta them on the INFERNO! :coffee:
Haven t we heard this crap before this year, oh yeah, 30-7
8-2 against MSU this decade. :coffee:
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
cats2506 wrote:
Haven t we heard this crap before this year, oh yeah, 30-7
8-2 against MSU this decade. :coffee:
1-0 against EWU this year, soon to be 2-0
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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Oopsey.
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Catattack wrote::coffee:
Apology accepted. :kisswink:
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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cats2506 wrote:
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8-2 against MSU this decade. :coffee:
1-0 against EWU this year, soon to be 2-0
You mean 1-1. Someday kitty, someday. :thumb:
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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EWURanger wrote:
SpeedkingATL wrote:It will be very interesting to see if anyone other than a SoCon or CAA team can win a NC since it hasn't happened since...let's see...1992???
Huh?
I was wondering how that idiotic statement got by so many of you when I was reading this morning. :lol:

I figured it was such a shit all stupid comment that people did like I did and just said that it was too fucking dumb to reply to. It needed pointing out though so the rubes know to stick to what they know...shutting the fuck up.

Hasn't happened since 1992. :rofl:

You gotta love the new guys that started paying attention in 2007.
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