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Re: Wikileaks Dun, Dun, Duhhhhhh

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Cluck U wrote:More of the BS exposed.

Let's not forget, this is the war Obama said we should be fighting...it is HIS war. And what are we fighting for in Obama's war? A corrupt President, drugs, 150 released prisoners, some of whom now lead the Taliban, and an Afghan VP taking $52 million to a Persian Gulf state. :nod:

WAY TO GO OBAMA!! Everyone should be proud of his leadership - and cover up - in his war. :thumb:

Change.... :rofl:


"An internal State Department cable recounts new details about how Afghan President Hamad Karzai allegedly intervened on behalf of politically connected drug traffickers, prompting the U.S. government to file a formal diplomatic protest and Karzai’s own chief of staff to say he was “ashamed” of his president’s actions.

But the protest, known as a demarche, was never made public and the Aug. 9, 2009 cable detailing the U.S. government’s complaints was classified as secret by the U.S. Embassy in Kabul. The result was to downplay the depth of U.S. concerns about alleged corruption inside Karzai’s government during a period that the Obama administration was ramping up U.S. aid and troop levels in Afghanistan.

Although U.S. frustrations over Karzai’s actions were publicly reported at the time, the fact that the State Department went so far as to file a formal demarche was never publicly disclosed. Nor were U.S. concerns about the second reason for the demarche: that a detainee committee headed by Aloko was releasing large numbers of prisoners transferred from U.S. custody to an Afghan National Detention Facility despite an Afghan government commitment that the detainees would be criminally prosecuted in Afghan courts.

According to the cable, the Afghans had released 150 detainees without any trial since 2007, including 29 who had previously been at Guantanamo. (Although the cable doesn’t mention it, at least two former Guantanamo detainees transferred to Afghan custody in December, 2007, Abdul Rauf Khadim and Mullah Abdullah Zakir, have since reemerged as leaders of the Taliban.

Another WikiLeaks cable, first reported Sunday by The New York Times, reported that Afghanistan’s Vice President Ahmed Zia Massoud had been found to have been carrying $52 million from Kabul to a Persian Gulf state."


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40436590/ns ... s-security" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No wonder Hillary tried to attack the leak. We should be ashamed to support such information being made pubic. :rofl:

:shock: The Karzai government is corrupt?
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CID1990 wrote:Everybody plays this game.

As an old mentor once said, "In foreign affairs there are no allies, only interests."

That diplomats are tasked with reporting back to their governments the activities, tendencies, pecadilloes and desires of foreign leaders and officials is not news. They take instructions and report back. That's the job.

Anybody wonder why the response of most of the governments mentioned in these leaks is mostly reserved and even quiet?
:shock: Not as much as I wonder how old you must be to have been mentored by Lord Palmerston.




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houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Everybody plays this game.

As an old mentor once said, "In foreign affairs there are no allies, only interests."

That diplomats are tasked with reporting back to their governments the activities, tendencies, pecadilloes and desires of foreign leaders and officials is not news. They take instructions and report back. That's the job.

Anybody wonder why the response of most of the governments mentioned in these leaks is mostly reserved and even quiet?
:shock: Not as much as I wonder how old you must be to have been mentored by Lord Palmerston.




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CID1990 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
:shock: Not as much as I wonder how old you must be to have been mentored by Lord Palmerston.




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LOL. Well it wasn't him, obviously, but a fan.

From the outside there doesn't seem to be much of a story here really, other than how a PFC got a hold of diplomatic correspondence. :|
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Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant for Assange - Dun, dun, dun, dunhhhhh.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/no ... an-assange" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(this is becoming a Ludlum novel.)
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kalm wrote:Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant for Assange - Dun, dun, dun, dunhhhhh.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/no ... an-assange" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(this is becoming a Ludlum novel.)
And a bad one at that. Sexual assault?? In SWEDEN of all places?? Soon to be a major motion picture starring Eric Idle as Assange and Scarlett Johansson as the alleged victim! :mrgreen:
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant for Assange - Dun, dun, dun, dunhhhhh.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/no ... an-assange" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(this is becoming a Ludlum novel.)
And a bad one at that. Sexual assault?? In SWEDEN of all places?? Soon to be a major motion picture starring Eric Idle as Assange and Scarlett Johansson as the alleged victim! :mrgreen:
Well if Idle is in it than it will probably be directed by Terry Gilliam making it at least worth the watch. :thumb:
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kalm wrote:Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant for Assange - Dun, dun, dun, dunhhhhh.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/no ... an-assange" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(this is becoming a Ludlum novel.)
You know, I try not to judge too much on looks, but that guys just looks like someone who's going to wind up getting charged with something like this.
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
And a bad one at that. Sexual assault?? In SWEDEN of all places?? Soon to be a major motion picture starring Eric Idle as Assange and Scarlett Johansson as the alleged victim! :mrgreen:
Well if Idle is in it than it will probably be directed by Terry Gilliam making it at least worth the watch. :thumb:
Scarlett would be well worth watching no matter who's directing! :flash:

But I digress... :mrgreen:
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
Well if Idle is in it than it will probably be directed by Terry Gilliam making it at least worth the watch. :thumb:
Scarlett would be well worth watching no matter who's directing! :flash:

But I digress... :mrgreen:
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Give me a break... :roll:
The founder of WikiLeaks, the organization that is publishing hundreds of thousands of confidential American diplomatic cables, is calling for the resignation of U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"She should resign if it can be shown that she was responsible for ordering U.S. diplomatic figures to engage in espionage in the United Nations, in violation of the international covenants to which the U.S. has signed up," Julian Assange told Time Magazine in an interview.
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mebison wrote:Give me a break... :roll:
The founder of WikiLeaks, the organization that is publishing hundreds of thousands of confidential American diplomatic cables, is calling for the resignation of U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"She should resign if it can be shown that she was responsible for ordering U.S. diplomatic figures to engage in espionage in the United Nations, in violation of the international covenants to which the U.S. has signed up," Julian Assange told Time Magazine in an interview.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40452461/ns ... n_security" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If they ever jail the guy, he'll have to change his name to :mrgreen: Assbange!
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houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
LOL. Well it wasn't him, obviously, but a fan.

From the outside there doesn't seem to be much of a story here really, other than how a PFC got a hold of diplomatic correspondence. :|
Inter-agency info sharing.

This could be a whole different thread, but this is one of those unintended consequences of a well-intentioned change in how we handle information. DoD can access DoS and vice versa in many cases, as is illustrated in the DoS cable leaks.
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant for Assange - Dun, dun, dun, dunhhhhh.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/no ... an-assange" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(this is becoming a Ludlum novel.)
And a bad one at that. Sexual assault?? In SWEDEN of all places?? Soon to be a major motion picture starring Eric Idle as Assange and Scarlett Johansson as the alleged victim! :mrgreen:

Scarlett has starred in too many Woody Allen movies for that biopic to include anything other than incest.
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