NDSU BISON* @ Eastern Washington University

[BisonBacker]

It's not as if I was saying they are comparible to a non scholly conference. Not even close. I think the top tier teams in the sky are very competitive. But to knock NDSU's 4-4 conference record in the MVFC when you have as close to a guaranteed "W" with the bottom 3 or 4 of the BSC for them is a huge difference.

Any Rational fan can see that

Bottom 3 or 4 now huh? Our fourth from worst team was NAU, who went 4-4 in conference, just like NDSU. Now you're just getting blatantly ignorant loose in your generalizations. You're getting further from rational by the post.

Bottom 3 then (no need to throw out insults). But the comment you make just brings us back to the original debate. Is a 4-4 record in the Valley the same as a 4-4 record in the sky? On paper yes but that's about it and yes I realize thats the only place it matters. My comments were only about the Strength of the two conferences and how the two records compare. Not really that hard to figure out but I guess we can't have a friendly debate without it getting personal or ugly. Nuff said I'll leave it at the agree to disagree juncture.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

It's not as if I was saying they are comparible to a non scholly conference. Not even close. I think the top tier teams in the sky are very competitive. But to knock NDSU's 4-4 conference record in the MVFC when you have as close to a guaranteed "W" with the bottom 3 or 4 of the BSC for them is a huge difference.

Any Rational fan can see that

Bottom 3 or 4 now huh? Our fourth from worst team was NAU, who went 4-4 in conference, just like NDSU. Now you're just getting blatantly ignorant loose in your generalizations. You're getting further from rational by the post.

BisonBacker is one of the guys that is real quiet and posts fairly normal when the Bison suck dick like they have the past few years. When they are doing well he get's real vocal on how much better the Bison are in particular and secondarily how the MVFC is a stronger conference.

It's good stuff to watch.

[Wedgebuster]

The NDSU I was studying on Saturday brought their A game. They controlled the MSU offensive line, and their offense which seemed a bit uneasy in the beginning just continued to hit hard and grind away until some point in the thrid quarter when MSU folded.

Bison have some really big guys, over 6'7" on that offensive line, including a huge tight end, and they made dang few errors.

They come to Cheny ready to play like last week and things could get quiet there in a hurry. Looks like a team peaking at the right time to me.

[BisonBacker]

Bottom 3 or 4 now huh? Our fourth from worst team was NAU, who went 4-4 in conference, just like NDSU. Now you're just getting blatantly ignorant loose in your generalizations. You're getting further from rational by the post.

BisonBacker is one of the guys that is real quiet and posts fairly normal when the Bison suck dick like they have the past few years. When they are doing well he get's real vocal on how much better the Bison are in particular and secondarily how the MVFC is a stronger conference.

It's good stuff to watch.

Hey I'm not crowing NDSU anything, I'm just trying to enjoy a little fan banter and opinion but apparently that's not acceptable to some. Then again when your team is doing good I do believe it's common to get a little excited for your team? Again that's apparently wrong for some. I back our team win or lose but I've been very critical of them also go back and look at my posts. I don't wear green and gold glasses and call a spade a spade. But having some fun making comparisons as a "fan" is apparently not a good thing to some. I think some of you need to take a break from the mesaage boards and get out a bit there is life after football.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

The NDSU I was studying on Saturday brought their A game. They controlled the MSU offensive line, and their offense which seemed a bit uneasy in the beginning just continued to hit hard and grind away until some point in the thrid quarter when MSU folded.

Bison have some really big guys, over 6'7" on that offensive line, including a huge tight end, and they made dang few errors.

They come to Cheny ready to play like last week and things could get quiet there in a hurry. Looks like a team peaking at the right time to me.

Same thing I saw. MSU folded and NDSU had a lot to do with that.

[blazerbird]

Good Lord. You'd think the Bison had just won the Chipper. Your team's great. We get it. Last week all I heard was how SEMO's RB was unlike any Eastern had seen, and that the Eagles were going to get pushed around. Turns out once it was obvious all SEMO could do was run the option, they were sunk. Now I'm supposed to believe that NDSU is going to run all over the Eagle defense and that Mitchell is going to be sacked 5 times? I don't think so. IF your TWO quarterbacks could complete more than a combined FIVE passes in a game, I'd be worried about defending the pass and the run. But without a credible pass threat, the Bison will have to score despite a serious focus on defending the run. Then they'll be able to lock down Jones, Kaufman, and Mitchell? If that happens, I'll be really impressed. Until then, keep hanging your collective hats on that really impressive Kansas win.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

BisonBacker is one of the guys that is real quiet and posts fairly normal when the Bison suck dick like they have the past few years. When they are doing well he get's real vocal on how much better the Bison are in particular and secondarily how the MVFC is a stronger conference.

It's good stuff to watch.

Hey I'm not crowing NDSU anything, I'm just trying to enjoy a little fan banter and opinion but apparently that's not acceptable to some. Then again when your team is doing good I do believe it's common to get a little excited for your team? Again that's apparently wrong for some. I back our team win or lose but I've been very critical of them also go back and look at my posts. I don't wear green and gold glasses and call a spade a spade. But having some fun making comparisons as a "fan" is apparently not a good thing to some. I think some of you need to take a break from the mesaage boards and get out a bit there is life after football.

When did I ever say it was wrong to support your team? Both of us are doing so, and providing reasoning behind our opinions, some more rational than others. To say UNC wasn't on par with the competitiveness in the MVFC or a sure win is ridiculous. They were 2-6 and a couple plays from being 4-4 or 5-3, just as a lot of MVFC teams were 4-4 and a couple plays from being 2-6.

[mebison]

The NDSU I was studying on Saturday brought their A game. They controlled the MSU offensive line, and their offense which seemed a bit uneasy in the beginning just continued to hit hard and grind away until some point in the thrid quarter when MSU folded.

Bison have some really big guys, over 6'7" on that offensive line, including a huge tight end, and they made dang few errors.

They come to Cheny ready to play like last week and things could get quiet there in a hurry. Looks like a team peaking at the right time to me.

Same thing I saw. MSU folded and NDSU had a lot to do with that.

RMU and MSU games were almost identical. Grind away, grind away, score a few points, try not to screw up too much (turnovers) and ride the defense until the other defense gets worn down and things break open on offense.

Really, when you go back and watch the game, there were a whole lot of runs for nothing in the first half. Playcalling adjustments (something somewhat new to us) helped with that as well, though.

It might come down to conditioning more than anything else.

[Gil Dobie]

Good Lord. You'd think the Bison had just won the Chipper. Your team's great. We get it. Last week all I heard was how SEMO's RB was unlike any Eastern had seen, and that the Eagles were going to get pushed around. Turns out once it was obvious all SEMO could do was run the option, they were sunk. Now I'm supposed to believe that NDSU is going to run all over the Eagle defense and that Mitchell is going to be sacked 5 times? I don't think so. IF your TWO quarterbacks could complete more than a combined FIVE passes in a game, I'd be worried about defending the pass and the run. But without a credible pass threat, the Bison will have to score despite a serious focus on defending the run. Then they'll be able to lock down Jones, Kaufman, and Mitchell? If that happens, I'll be really impressed. Until then, keep hanging your collective hats on that really impressive Kansas win.

I hope your team isn't impressed with NDSU leading up to the game either.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

BisonBacker is one of the guys that is real quiet and posts fairly normal when the Bison suck dick like they have the past few years. When they are doing well he get's real vocal on how much better the Bison are in particular and secondarily how the MVFC is a stronger conference.

It's good stuff to watch.

Hey I'm not crowing NDSU anything, I'm just trying to enjoy a little fan banter and opinion but apparently that's not acceptable to some. Then again when your team is doing good I do believe it's common to get a little excited for your team? Again that's apparently wrong for some. I back our team win or lose but I've been very critical of them also go back and look at my posts. I don't wear green and gold glasses and call a spade a spade. But having some fun making comparisons as a "fan" is apparently not a good thing to some. I think some of you need to take a break from the mesaage boards and get out a bit there is life after football.

Really? What you profess to be doing is the same thing that others are doing. Sorry your feeling got hurt.

You are one of the guys that posts an opinion about how the MVFC is very strong and it has always been stronger than the BSC and how the MVFC beats up on itself. Look at yourself...talking about the bottom 3 of this vs. that.

When the top of the BSC plays the top of the MVFC the games can usually go either way and often do come out about even. The conference rankings come out about even with the BSC topping the NVFC a little bit more. Yet with all the shit showing a pretty even match up of the conferences you still say that YOU THINK the MVFC is the tougher conference.

Same shit you were saying in 2007 & 2008.

The Bison & the Eagles are fairly different in styles and I would expect to see a real great display of those two styles on Saturday.

Don't concern yourself too much with what the rest of are doing as far as our board life. We're good with it.

As I pointed out earlier, the only reason your presence was minimized is due to a couple of rough seasons for NDSU. You're back now and that's all that matters.

[JBB]

Any other opinion is laughable.

Any fool can say that.

The Eagles look like MSU. Some things to consider:

1) The BISON have had some inconsistency. Not unusual for a young team They have won 5 of the last 6.

2) During that streak the BISON have been getting better game by game

3) The BISON O line is playing lights out and healthy.

4) MSU gave up 5 sacks to the BISON. They gave up 13 during the regular season. The BISON Defensive line is among the best in the country.

5) BISON play a great field position game

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Good Lord. You'd think the Bison had just won the Chipper. Your team's great. We get it. Last week all I heard was how SEMO's RB was unlike any Eastern had seen, and that the Eagles were going to get pushed around. Turns out once it was obvious all SEMO could do was run the option, they were sunk. Now I'm supposed to believe that NDSU is going to run all over the Eagle defense and that Mitchell is going to be sacked 5 times? I don't think so. IF your TWO quarterbacks could complete more than a combined FIVE passes in a game, I'd be worried about defending the pass and the run. But without a credible pass threat, the Bison will have to score despite a serious focus on defending the run. Then they'll be able to lock down Jones, Kaufman, and Mitchell? If that happens, I'll be really impressed. Until then, keep hanging your collective hats on that really impressive Kansas win.

NDSU is diffent than what SEMO was bringing. NDSU looks to be a team that you bone up to stop the run and you have a great chance...but they have a way of getting just enough to hold onto the ball and keep it out of your hands when you really want it back from what I've seen. They also lull the defense and D coordinator to sleep with the run and then they catch you in a bad coverage and quick strike you. They are real similar in what they do to the Griz teams from 2008 & 2009 as far as having some control over how much you possess the ball. EWU really has to make it's possessions count early in the game because it will be a whole lot tougher in the 2nd half this week than it was last week if the game is tied at the half. That I can assure you of.

[eaglesfootball]

Good Lord. You'd think the Bison had just won the Chipper. Your team's great. We get it. Last week all I heard was how SEMO's RB was unlike any Eastern had seen, and that the Eagles were going to get pushed around. Turns out once it was obvious all SEMO could do was run the option, they were sunk. Now I'm supposed to believe that NDSU is going to run all over the Eagle defense and that Mitchell is going to be sacked 5 times? I don't think so. IF your TWO quarterbacks could complete more than a combined FIVE passes in a game, I'd be worried about defending the pass and the run. But without a credible pass threat, the Bison will have to score despite a serious focus on defending the run. Then they'll be able to lock down Jones, Kaufman, and Mitchell? If that happens, I'll be really impressed. Until then, keep hanging your collective hats on that really impressive Kansas win.

NDSU is diffent than what SEMO was bringing. NDSU looks to be a team that you bone up to stop the run and you have a great chance...but they have a way of getting just enough to hold onto the ball and keep it out of your hands when you really want it back from what I've seen. They also lull the defense and D coordinator to sleep with the run and then they catch you in a bad coverage and quick strike you. They are real similar in what they do to the Griz teams from 2008 & 2009 as far as having some control over how much you possess the ball. EWU really has to make it's possessions count early in the game because it will be a whole lot tougher in the 2nd half this week than it was last week if the game is tied at the half. That I can assure you of.

i agree good sir.

[JBB]

Although progress has been incremental for the team as a whole, especially over the past 6 weeks, the offense really seems to be making some progress.

1) There is more synchronization with the play development. That means execution is improving.

2) Strength. The offensive line is healthy and improving its impact play

This has resulted in a steady increase in the efficiency of the offense, its ability to score and of course control the clock. Im not sure if Brock Jenson will be ready to play but I do know Jose Mohler can bring game. He can run and pass, especially his short game. The fans weren't treated to that because the Cats couldnt stop the run. Why pass? Open the play book when dive right, dive left, bust to the outside is working? I dont think so.

HELPFUL HINT:

The NDSU offense is just beginning to emerge. Last year it was one of the best in the nation, top 20. The play of the offense is beginning to rise to that level. McNorton, only a Jr, is asserting himself as one of the best running backs in the division. He is a very dangerous receiver too.

[JBB]

Any word on the expected attendance?

Throwback football!! The old fashioned out side playing field is going to be great! Nothing better: Crowd around 5,000, outside, BISON on the field. This is going to be classic!!

GO BISON!!!!

ONE MORE TIME FOR THE OLD AC!!!

GO BISON!!!!

[JBB]

From as near as Waukon and as far away as the upper Okanogan Valley, Convocations are already amassing throughout the great Inland Empire. The Incredible Inferno at Righteous Roos Field looks resplendent in it's accessory of snow berms and the radiant stadium lights will provide a signal beacon to be seen by all raptors on the hunt.

awesome inpersonation

I think his indian words are a little tough to understand. How about:

From as near as Casselton and as far away as Miles City, The Peoples are amassing throughout the great NDSU Empire. The Incredible Thunder of The Herd as it marches across the prairie looks resplendent in it's accessory of snow berms. The radiant stadium lights will provide a signal beacon to be seen by all BISON Fans as they roll into Cheney Warshington because its always cloudy there at 12.30 PM. Nothing new to the Herd. Its dark in Fargo too during the late fall and winter.

Will you have the field cleared of snow and the coffee/hot chocolate stations set up for 5,000+? We dont need fries but would sure like a decent hot dog.

They have one of the best "Dogs" in the country at Caughlin Alumni Stadium in Broookings South Dakota.
Rocky Hager

[SeattleGriz]

The NDSU I was studying on Saturday brought their A game. They controlled the MSU offensive line, and their offense which seemed a bit uneasy in the beginning just continued to hit hard and grind away until some point in the thrid quarter when MSU folded.

Bison have some really big guys, over 6'7" on that offensive line, including a huge tight end, and they made dang few errors.

They come to Cheny ready to play like last week and things could get quiet there in a hurry. Looks like a team peaking at the right time to me.

Same thing I saw. MSU folded and NDSU had a lot to do with that.

The one thing everyone is overlooking here, is that NDSU's offensive line is no larger than Griz O lines of the past. I am not understanding NDSU's belief that the Big Sky has never seen such a running team. NDSU is exactly like Montana used to be last year, minus the ability to pass.

While it will be tough for EWU, they have played teams like this recently and beat them.

[Gil Dobie]

I am not understanding NDSU's belief that the Big Sky has never seen such a running team.

NDSU belief? or some NDSU fans belief's?

Where is the Cap'n's generalization flag when you need it.

[SeattleGriz]

I am not understanding NDSU's belief that the Big Sky has never seen such a running team.

NDSU belief? or some NDSU fans belief's?

Where is the Cap'n's generalization flag when you need it.

Hell, you're lucky I made any sense at all. You try and post with one kid sick and the other asking for something to drink or eat every three minutes.

NDSU fans belief's.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Same thing I saw. MSU folded and NDSU had a lot to do with that.

The one thing everyone is overlooking here, is that NDSU's offensive line is no larger than Griz O lines of the past. I am not understanding NDSU's belief that the Big Sky has never seen such a running team. NDSU is exactly like Montana used to be last year, minus the ability to pass.

While it will be tough for EWU, they have played teams like this recently and beat them.

Who's overlooking that? I intimated at that pretty hard just a couple posts back SeaGriz. Unless you're talking about some of them and not us and I'm misunderstanding you?

NDSU is similar as has been said to what the Griz were a couple of years ago and they seem to be picking up some steam and are fairly dangerous. I do think that the matchups that EWU will provide them are gonna be tough for NDSU to overcome though. Fact is though I think NDSU has an advantage on both lines which is big but EWU has a definite advantage in the skill positions. That's why I think it's gonna be a real good game to see how this all boils down.

[SeattleGriz]

The one thing everyone is overlooking here, is that NDSU's offensive line is no larger than Griz O lines of the past. I am not understanding NDSU's belief that the Big Sky has never seen such a running team. NDSU is exactly like Montana used to be last year, minus the ability to pass.

While it will be tough for EWU, they have played teams like this recently and beat them.

Who's overlooking that? I intimated at that pretty hard just a couple posts back SeaGriz. Unless you're talking about some of them and not us and I'm misunderstanding you?

No, I know you know, just didn't take the time to read all the way through the thread.

You know what they say about like minds!

[CatMom]

NDSU belief? or some NDSU fans belief's?

Where is the Cap'n's generalization flag when you need it.

Hell, you're lucky I made any sense at all. You try and post with one kid sick and the other asking for something to drink or eat every three minutes.

NDSU fans belief's.

NDSU fans' (plural posessive) beliefs (more than one)

just helping out

[BisonBacker]

I am not understanding NDSU's belief that the Big Sky has never seen such a running team.

NDSU belief? or some NDSU fans belief's?

Where is the Cap'n's generalization flag when you need it.

Gil I"ve been waiting for the same thing. I'll feel much better once we get Crappin Cats doomed prognosis about how bad NDSU will be beat and all will be right in the world. So far with his wonderful pontificating the team has been doing just fine.

[JBB]

NDSU is similar as has been said to what the Griz were a couple of years ago

I dont doubt that. In fact the record book shows that to be true. Thing is the game is this Saturday not a couple yrs ago. EWarshington may have seen something comparable in the past but this year it is going to feel like the first time.

[JBB]

JUST IN:

Brock Jensen, NDSU QB has a slight concussion. Starting QB will be a game time decision.

This game will be televised state-wide in North Dakota on the NDSU BISON Sports Network.