And apparantly he spent time in the Hospital in Philly, and the Lee family had a good experience there.TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Ruben Amaro Jr is the real genius in all of this...
my distaste for the deals on the table all had to do with giving a 31 year old pitcher a 7 year deal... Phillies get him for 5 - perfect... if he still wants to pitch at 36 and has anything left - re-sign...
btw - just a thought on why:
cliff lee's son has leukemia in remission - Philadelphia has one of the best children's hospitals in the country. that kind of stuff can't be quantified in dollars, but I'll bet it's one of the things that persuaded him.
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Good point. Philly isn't unique to good hospitals but CHOP is one of the best there is for kids.dbackjon wrote:And apparantly he spent time in the Hospital in Philly, and the Lee family had a good experience there.TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Ruben Amaro Jr is the real genius in all of this...
my distaste for the deals on the table all had to do with giving a 31 year old pitcher a 7 year deal... Phillies get him for 5 - perfect... if he still wants to pitch at 36 and has anything left - re-sign...
btw - just a thought on why:
cliff lee's son has leukemia in remission - Philadelphia has one of the best children's hospitals in the country. that kind of stuff can't be quantified in dollars, but I'll bet it's one of the things that persuaded him.
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27 World Titles. Suck it, Harvard boy.Ivytalk wrote:Joe is living down to the reputation that D1B created for him!GannonFan wrote:Man, just getting to watch Joltin Joe implode with such bitter resentment is almost as good as Cliff Lee signing with the Phils. There's nothing better than seeing a NY fan grind his teeth and yell at walls when they can't just throw money at somebody and get them. And to think, pitchers and catchers don't report for another 2.5 months, so we get to watch Joe go through all the stages of grief during that time. Especially considering that AJ Burnett is still the Yanks 3rd pitcher!!!![]()
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The Golden Era of Phillies baseball continues!!! Couldn't happen to a better city.
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or... it's a fuck ton of 4-1, 5-2, 6-3 scores... seems highly likely with a good offense and great pitching.UNHWildCats wrote:Lets assume the Phillies win 100 games... having 70-80% of those wins come by 3 runs or less isnt that impressive.... Hell you take the wins... and winning 100 certainly means the team is great,,, by that high a apercentage of saves suggests either the offense is lackluster... lots of 3-2, 2-1 games or the rotation doesnt hold up to its early billing lots of 8-7, 9-7 games.89Hen wrote: Wha?
you can rack up a ton of saves that way.
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I think you overestimate the significance I attach to this.GannonFan wrote:Man, just getting to watch Joltin Joe implode with such bitter resentment is almost as good as Cliff Lee signing with the Phils. There's nothing better than seeing a NY fan grind his teeth and yell at walls when they can't just throw money at somebody and get them. And to think, pitchers and catchers don't report for another 2.5 months, so we get to watch Joe go through all the stages of grief during that time. Especially considering that AJ Burnett is still the Yanks 3rd pitcher!!!![]()
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The Golden Era of Phillies baseball continues!!! Couldn't happen to a better city.
That being said, I think it is cute the way you Phillies fan are all excited because you signed Cliff Lee. It's almost like you guys haven't lost over 10,000 games.
PS -- This "Golden Era of Phillies baseball" would be a down period in Yankee history.
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And you have,what, ONE decent starting pitcher? Blow it out yer azz, Fordham-Flash-in-the Pan!JoltinJoe wrote:27 World Titles. Suck it, Harvard boy.Ivytalk wrote:
Joe is living down to the reputation that D1B created for him!
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I expect more from you.Ivytalk wrote:And you have,what, ONE decent starting pitcher? Blow it out yer azz, Fordham-Flash-in-the Pan!JoltinJoe wrote:
27 World Titles. Suck it, Harvard boy.
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Gosh, I thought the Frankie Frisch reference was pretty good!JoltinJoe wrote:I expect more from you.Ivytalk wrote:
And you have,what, ONE decent starting pitcher? Blow it out yer azz, Fordham-Flash-in-the Pan!
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It's also cute to watch how butt hurt you are about it.JoltinJoe wrote:I think you overestimate the significance I attach to this.GannonFan wrote:Man, just getting to watch Joltin Joe implode with such bitter resentment is almost as good as Cliff Lee signing with the Phils. There's nothing better than seeing a NY fan grind his teeth and yell at walls when they can't just throw money at somebody and get them. And to think, pitchers and catchers don't report for another 2.5 months, so we get to watch Joe go through all the stages of grief during that time. Especially considering that AJ Burnett is still the Yanks 3rd pitcher!!!![]()
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The Golden Era of Phillies baseball continues!!! Couldn't happen to a better city.![]()
That being said, I think it is cute the way you Phillies fan are all excited because you signed Cliff Lee. It's almost like you guys haven't lost over 10,000 games.![]()
PS -- This "Golden Era of Phillies baseball" would be a down period in Yankee history.
PS -- Would this be like the Mid 60's - Mid 70's or 80's - Mid 90's Yankees golden age?

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Prepare to be down then.JoltinJoe wrote:PS -- This "Golden Era of Phillies baseball" would be a down period in Yankee history.

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Now that you point out the worst periods in Yankee history, I'd have to say that this "Golden Era of Phillies baseball" (one world series title in the past 29 seasons) would be the WORST period in Yankee history.JMU DJ wrote:It's also cute to watch how butt hurt you are about it.JoltinJoe wrote:
I think you overestimate the significance I attach to this.![]()
That being said, I think it is cute the way you Phillies fan are all excited because you signed Cliff Lee. It's almost like you guys haven't lost over 10,000 games.![]()
PS -- This "Golden Era of Phillies baseball" would be a down period in Yankee history.
PS -- Would this be like the Mid 60's - Mid 70's or 80's - Mid 90's Yankees golden age?
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JoltinJoe wrote:Now that you point out the worst periods in Yankee history, I'd have to say that this "Golden Era of Phillies baseball" (one world series title in the past 29 seasons) would be the WORST period in Yankee history.
Phillies = 1 WS in last 10 years
Yankees = 1 WS in last 10 years

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89Hen wrote:JoltinJoe wrote:Now that you point out the worst periods in Yankee history, I'd have to say that this "Golden Era of Phillies baseball" (one world series title in the past 29 seasons) would be the WORST period in Yankee history.![]()
Phillies = 1 WS in last 10 years
Yankees = 1 WS in last 10 years
Red Sox = 2 WS in last 10 years
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Oh, snap, Horace Clarke! Or was it Jake Gibbs?JoltinJoe wrote:Now that you point out the worst periods in Yankee history, I'd have to say that this "Golden Era of Phillies baseball" (one world series title in the past 29 seasons) would be the WORST period in Yankee history.JMU DJ wrote:
It's also cute to watch how butt hurt you are about it.
PS -- Would this be like the Mid 60's - Mid 70's or 80's - Mid 90's Yankees golden age?
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this virtually assures that cole hamels will leave the phillies after 2012
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UNHWildCats wrote:89Hen wrote:![]()
Phillies = 1 WS in last 10 years
Yankees = 1 WS in last 10 years
Red Sox = 2 WS in last 10 years

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UNHWildCats wrote:89Hen wrote:![]()
Phillies = 1 WS in last 29 years
Yankees = 2 WS in last 11 years
Red Sox = 2 WS* in last 91 years
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I prefer to call him the great Jake Gibbs.Ivytalk wrote:Oh, snap, Horace Clarke! Or was it Jake Gibbs?JoltinJoe wrote:
Now that you point out the worst periods in Yankee history, I'd have to say that this "Golden Era of Phillies baseball" (one world series title in the past 29 seasons) would be the WORST period in Yankee history.
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Irrelevant. The Golden Age for Philly started just a few years ago and we are only in the first half of it.JoltinJoe wrote:Phillies = 1 WS in last 29 years

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Ok.89Hen wrote:Irrelevant. The Golden Age for Philly started just a few years ago and we are only in the first half of it.JoltinJoe wrote:Phillies = 1 WS in last 29 years
2 WS in last 107 years.
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Just when it seemed you couldn't get any more petty. No wonder the Lee family chose not to associate with your ilk.JoltinJoe wrote:Ok.89Hen wrote:
Irrelevant. The Golden Age for Philly started just a few years ago and we are only in the first half of it.
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Go boo Santa and then puke on a little girl, classy Philly guy. Your idea of a gourmet meal is a cheese steak.89Hen wrote:Just when it seemed you couldn't get any more petty. No wonder the Lee family chose not to associate with your ilk.JoltinJoe wrote:
Ok.
2 WS in last 107 years.
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Ivytalk wrote:Gosh, I thought the Frankie Frisch reference was pretty good!JoltinJoe wrote:
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You took the name of the Flash in vain.
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Here are your top eight pitchers by strikeout/walk ratio in baseball for 2010 (min 200 innings):
Pitcher SO/BB 2011 Club
Cliff Lee 10.28 Phillies
Roy Halladay 7.30 Phillies
Jared Weaver 4.31 Angels
Dan Haren 4.00 Angels
Adam Wainwright 3.80 Cardinals
James Shields 3.67 Rays
Roy Oswalt 3.51 Phillies
Cole Hamels 3.46 Phillies

Pitcher SO/BB 2011 Club
Cliff Lee 10.28 Phillies
Roy Halladay 7.30 Phillies
Jared Weaver 4.31 Angels
Dan Haren 4.00 Angels
Adam Wainwright 3.80 Cardinals
James Shields 3.67 Rays
Roy Oswalt 3.51 Phillies
Cole Hamels 3.46 Phillies
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The Phils should be stacked in MLB 2K11.93henfan wrote:Here are your top eight pitchers by strikeout/walk ratio in baseball for 2010 (min 200 innings):
Pitcher SO/BB 2011 Club
Cliff Lee 10.28 Phillies
Roy Halladay 7.30 Phillies
Jared Weaver 4.31 Angels
Dan Haren 4.00 Angels
Adam Wainwright 3.80 Cardinals
James Shields 3.67 Rays
Roy Oswalt 3.51 Phillies
Cole Hamels 3.46 Phillies
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