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Col Hogan wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:Again, I have to propose this not-so-implausible scenario:

Your GF, spouse, etc is pregnant. Do you want her to have to register that pregnancy with the local authorities and have to submit to regular pregnancy "checkups' to verify its viability? Huh?

Suppose she miscarries, as nearly 80% of pregancies are apt to do, naturally? Are you gonna enjoy the pregnancy police coming to your door and grilling your woman as to what, exactly, happened to terminate the pregnancy? Huh? How long will she be questioned? Will she be waterboarded? What proof do you have to produce that it was a natural miscarriage? Does she then go on a pregnancy watch list for her next one if there are any questions or unresolved findings?

Don't laugh. Some anti-choicers would have this. How else are you going to enforce a ban? Will doctors be hesitant to treat pregnant women for fear of investigation? What, then, are the prospects for prenatal care any longer? How big is the pregnancy bureaucracy?



SMFH @ anti-choicers..........


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I'd love to see a link to back up that claim...that's some of the funiest stuff I've seen in a long time...
Not being deep thinkers, I can see why you and JoltinJerkOff would have difficulty with this.

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So you're saying you can't back up your outlandish claim...it's just something that came to you in a dream...

Okey dokey.....
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Col Hogan wrote:So you're saying you can't back up your outlandish claim...it's just something that came to you in a dream...

Okey dokey.....


Actually, that came directly from NARAL campaign posters I used in 1988 in Iowa. I know it will be hard for you, but, tell me how you think an abortion ban would be enforced, Einstein. Now, don't hurt yourself.

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Better yet, Hoagie, go ask your daughter and wife. That's usually the clincher for azzholes who brag like you, yet will never become pregnant and give birth.

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Cap'n Cat wrote:
Col Hogan wrote: ImageImage

I'd love to see a link to back up that claim...that's some of the funiest stuff I've seen in a long time...
Not being deep thinkers, I can see why you and JoltinJerkOff would have difficulty with this.

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Uh, the "not being deep thinker" modifies the subject of the sentence -- which is the first person pronoun. :lol: :lol: :lol:

No argument from me. You are not a deep thinker. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Let me help you with a grammar lesson I mastered in fourth grade. Pay particular attention to the portion of the discussion regarding "Dangling Modifiers." You're welcome.

Misplaced and Dangling Modifiers
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Cap'n Cat wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:So you're saying you can't back up your outlandish claim...it's just something that came to you in a dream...

Okey dokey.....


Actually, that came directly from NARAL campaign posters I used in 1988 in Iowa. I know it will be hard for you, but, tell me how you think an abortion ban would be enforced, Einstein. Now, don't hurt yourself.

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So, because NARAL said it, it is so...

I can't argue with logic like that...

I don't know how a ban would be enforced...but unlike you, I don't claim to have all the answers...

All I know is...I'm willing to defend innocent lives...you have no problem killing them before they even have a chance to defend themselves...
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Cap'n Cat wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:So you're saying you can't back up your outlandish claim...it's just something that came to you in a dream...

Okey dokey.....


Actually, that came directly from NARAL campaign posters I used in 1988 in Iowa. I know it will be hard for you, but, tell me how you think an abortion ban would be enforced, Einstein. Now, don't hurt yourself.

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Admit it. YOu did the NARAL thing because you thought it would help get you laid.
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Cap'n Cat wrote:Again, I have to propose this not-so-implausible scenario:

Your GF, spouse, etc is pregnant. Do you want her to have to register that pregnancy with the local authorities and have to submit to regular pregnancy "checkups' to verify its viability? Huh?

Suppose she miscarries, as nearly 80% of pregancies are apt to do, naturally? Are you gonna enjoy the pregnancy police coming to your door and grilling your woman as to what, exactly, happened to terminate the pregnancy? Huh? How long will she be questioned? Will she be waterboarded? What proof do you have to produce that it was a natural miscarriage? Does she then go on a pregnancy watch list for her next one if there are any questions or unresolved findings?

Don't laugh. Some anti-choicers would have this. How else are you going to enforce a ban? Will doctors be hesitant to treat pregnant women for fear of investigation? What, then, are the prospects for prenatal care any longer? How big is the pregnancy bureaucracy?



SMFH @ anti-choicers..........


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Quick on the draw to defend the "constitutional right" to abortion, yet opposes the Second Amendment. :?
I wonder what the percentages are of people who use firearms to defend themselves or others in contrast to those who commit crimes? :roll:

Yet that "right" to protect one's well being you'll gladly discard.

How many women "needlessly" have abortions for convenience sake rather than health and well being? And how does that ratio compare to firearms?

Once you selectively choose to craft an argument based upon health and safety, then you open the pandora's box to violation of other rights, such as the 4th and 5th Amendment, which you so zealously criticized Bush for violating with the Patriot Act.

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travelinman67 wrote:[As the saying goes, Mon Chat amical, in for a penny, in for a pound. :(
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catamount man wrote:A B O R T I O N

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Right on!

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catamount man wrote:A B O R T I O N

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M U R D E R ! ! !
Then your god is worst murderer in history. Majority of pregnancies end up aborted by god.

Yet to see you Tman, Col Klink or Joltin Jackelope adequetely answer this.

What do you say Tman, let's put god in jail?
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JoltinJoe wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote: Not being deep thinkers, I can see why you and JoltinJerkOff would have difficulty with this.

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Uh, the "not being deep thinker" modifies the subject of the sentence -- which is the first person pronoun. :lol: :lol: :lol:

No argument from me. You are not a deep thinker. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Let me help you with a grammar lesson I mastered in fourth grade. Pay particular attention to the portion of the discussion regarding "Dangling Modifiers." You're welcome.

Misplaced and Dangling Modifiers
Dangling modifiers!? This is all you got! Grammer lessons? Great scumbag lawyer argument.

Joe, YOUR god performs abortions on an industrial scale. What are we going to do about it?
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Col Hogan wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:

Actually, that came directly from NARAL campaign posters I used in 1988 in Iowa. I know it will be hard for you, but, tell me how you think an abortion ban would be enforced, Einstein. Now, don't hurt yourself.

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So, because NARAL said it, it is so...

I can't argue with logic like that...

I don't know how a ban would be enforced...but unlike you, I don't claim to have all the answers...

All I know is...I'm willing to defend innocent lives...you have no problem killing them before they even have a chance to defend themselves...
One answer would be not to ban it. It's a women's health issue. Child bearing enslaves them and subjects them to dependence on fools like you and Tman.

Your god performs abortions daily on a massive scale. What should we do about it?
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D1B wrote:Then your god is worst murderer in history. Majority of pregnancies end up aborted by god.
Yup. You heard it hear first...D1B, Graduate of the Global Warming School of Research, informs all that "the majority" (that means "most") of all pregnancies are aborted by God. Dataset? or...
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D1B wrote:YOUR god performs abortions on an industrial scale. What are we going to do about it?
The only one performing abortions on an "industrial scale" are the murderers conducting assembly-line abortions at the clinics whose atrocities are so heinous, there is a specific class of medical malpractice law to handle the extreme frequency of occurrance. I would challenge you to find a post operative survey result that shows more victims who felt the procedure was "what they expected" or better, than victims who felt the procedure and outcome was "unsatisfactory".
D1B wrote: One answer would be not to ban it. It's a women's health issue. Child bearing enslaves them and subjects them to dependence on fools like you and Tman.
This is good...you gotta be drunk... :lol:

First, the overwhelming majority of women have abortions for elective reasons, i.e., they don't want to disrupt their lifestyle, NOT FOR HEALTH REASONS.
http://www.pregnantpause.org/numbers/whyabort.htm

Second, child bearing only enslaves women who would be dumb enough to hook up with someone as irresponsible as yourself. Name calling; inability to control their temper; drug and alcohol dependencies; basically someone who has underachieved and now "takes out their self-hate" by redirecting towards others? Really, be honest with yourself. I can't imagine any other poster on these boards who more closely matches the profile of the stereotypical wife-beater.

As for myself...to save your wasted effort attempting to attack my credibility, I am still close friends with both of my ex-wives, having drinks with my first ex on a frequent basis (just last weekend, in fact), and as of a few weeks ago, was advised by my second wife she is filing for divorce from her current husband and would like to try and "work things out" and get back together. I'll bet you a small house in northern CA that if you ask either of them, they'd tell you our having children IN NO WAY induced a feeling or fear of subjugation or loss of identity or empowerment. I'll also wager AZGriz's house on his behalf, that if you asked the world famous Mrs. AZGriz, she'd also confirm having children did not diminish her or place her in fear of being "subjected" by her husband (...come to think of it, it's possible that AZGriz was in fear of being subjected...naw...probably shouldn't go there... :roll: ). So, you can give up trying to attack those who still have their heads screwed on and understand that murdering children for the sake of convenience or to "get back" at the father, is amoral and logically indefensible: Most understand a relationship is a continuous demonstration of altruism and sacrifice, but that altruism is always a two way street...and that's one requirement of a healthy relationship regardless of any other mutually agreed upon dynamic. If you have to be asked to give of yourself, you don't have a relationship.

In 90+ percent of all infanticide, "abortion" is merely a method whereby a small percentage of women with f(ked up values get to hurt the child's father via proxy murder. Period.
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Cap'n Cat wrote:Better yet, Hoagie, go ask your daughter and wife. That's usually the clincher for azzholes who brag like you, yet will never become pregnant and give birth.

:roll:
You mean my adamant pro-life wife and daughter...both more conservative in this particular subject than I...

Yea, I'll go ask them...but if my opinion on this subject pisses you off...you really aren't going to like theirs...
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D1B wrote:
catamount man wrote:A B O R T I O N

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Then your god is worst murderer in history. Majority of pregnancies end up aborted by god.

Yet to see you Tman, Col Klink or Joltin Jackelope adequetely answer this.

What do you say Tman, let's put god in jail?
You could not back up that statement if your life depended on it...yet you constantly use it...
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D1B wrote:
Col Hogan wrote: So, because NARAL said it, it is so...

I can't argue with logic like that...

I don't know how a ban would be enforced...but unlike you, I don't claim to have all the answers...

All I know is...I'm willing to defend innocent lives...you have no problem killing them before they even have a chance to defend themselves...
One answer would be not to ban it. It's a women's health issue. Child bearing enslaves them and subjects them to dependence on fools like you and Tman.

Your god performs abortions daily on a massive scale. What should we do about it?
Killing an innocent is not a women's health issue...from the childs perspective...it's a murder warrent issued by no judge or jury, plain and simple...
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What a heated arguement. I'm in the unsure file. On one hand, I think that if you go around fucking everything with a dick and you get pregnant, then abortion is like you "reset" button and creates a culture where people think they can treat sex with such disrespect. (That is just one example, not the only)

On the other hand, if my wife and I were pregnant and the child would seriously endanger my wifes health or be born handicapped, then I would abort it. I would...will not bring a child into this world if it is going to be handicapped from Day 1. It is unfair to them. Then again, it's unfair to kill the child b/c mom and dad can't stop fvcking.
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Col Hogan wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:Better yet, Hoagie, go ask your daughter and wife. That's usually the clincher for azzholes who brag like you, yet will never become pregnant and give birth.

:roll:
You mean my adamant pro-life wife and daughter...both more conservative in this particular subject than I...

Yea, I'll go ask them...but if my opinion on this subject pisses you off...you really aren't going to like theirs...
Um...Dear...some pompous fool on the web wants me to ask you...

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This source says about 30% of pregnancies end in miscarriage:

http://www.healthsquare.com/fgwh/wh1ch27.htm
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dbackjon wrote:This source says about 30% of pregnancies end in miscarriage:

http://www.healthsquare.com/fgwh/wh1ch27.htm
Good source, jon...thanks...

I don't know about you, but I would not consider 30% to me any where close to a majority...
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Col Hogan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:This source says about 30% of pregnancies end in miscarriage:

http://www.healthsquare.com/fgwh/wh1ch27.htm
Good source, jon...thanks...

I don't know about you, but I would not consider 30% to me any where close to a majority...
No - but it is good to have a researched number to go by :)
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MarkCCU wrote:What a heated arguement. I'm in the unsure file. On one hand, I think that if you go around f**k[*] everything with a dick and you get pregnant, then abortion is like you "reset" button and creates a culture where people think they can treat sex with such disrespect. (That is just one example, not the only)

On the other hand, if my wife and I were pregnant and the child would seriously endanger my wifes health or be born handicapped, then I would abort it. I would...will not bring a child into this world if it is going to be handicapped from Day 1. It is unfair to them. Then again, it's unfair to kill the child b/c mom and dad can't stop fvcking.
All the more reason you keep the governments nose out of it. It's no one else's business. And I don't want to hear that crap about "stopping a murder or rape on the streets" from the hardliners...if it was only about precious human life, you'd be marching on Washington DEMANDING we stop bombing Iraq....

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Appaholic wrote:
MarkCCU wrote:What a heated arguement. I'm in the unsure file. On one hand, I think that if you go around f**k[*] everything with a dick and you get pregnant, then abortion is like you "reset" button and creates a culture where people think they can treat sex with such disrespect. (That is just one example, not the only)

On the other hand, if my wife and I were pregnant and the child would seriously endanger my wifes health or be born handicapped, then I would abort it. I would...will not bring a child into this world if it is going to be handicapped from Day 1. It is unfair to them. Then again, it's unfair to kill the child b/c mom and dad can't stop fvcking.
All the more reason you keep the governments nose out of it. It's no one else's business. And I don't want to hear that crap about "stopping a murder or rape on the streets" from the hardliners...if it was only about precious human life, you'd be marching on Washington DEMANDING we stop bombing Iraq....

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