Stay Classy Yankee Fan

[GannonFan]

Huh? I vanished? Sorry not to be a 24/7 presence on these boards. I mean, if I was paid to be here 24/7 then by all means I would be, but unfortunately, my pay comes from other sources and they do require a least some of my attention.

And seriously, why should I be upset about the Hens or the Eagles - didn't they both have better seasons than your teams? Both seasons were very pleasant surprises. I'm not understanding why I should be upset.

I laugh at your teams.

The Eagles have now gone 51 seasons without winning an NFL title.

And the last time Delaware played Fordham, it got crushed and has ducked us ever since.

And you have to laugh at my teams because your teams are done and gone well before my teams are. How many weeks did you have to watch the Hens after Fordham finished strong with that closer-than-the-final-score-indicated 5 TD loss to Colgate? Come on, you can admit it, you have Blue Hen envy. It's cool Joe, we'll gladly let you join the rest of us. But hey, no spitting allowed - we know how you NY types get all frothy at the mouth when the games start.

[JoltinJoe]

I laugh at your teams.

The Eagles have now gone 51 seasons without winning an NFL title.

And the last time Delaware played Fordham, it got crushed and has ducked us ever since.

And you have to laugh at my teams because your teams are done and gone well before my teams are. How many weeks did you have to watch the Hens after Fordham finished strong with that closer-than-the-final-score-indicated 5 TD loss to Colgate? Come on, you can admit it, you have Blue Hen envy. It's cool Joe, we'll gladly let you join the rest of us. But hey, no spitting allowed - we know how you NY types get all frothy at the mouth when the games start.

Hey Gannonfan, you know I like you. Maybe someday you can venture out of your little suburb of New York -- and come to the Big City itself. I'd be happy to show you around Fordham. You can admire our Sugar Bowl trophy and I can show our treasure trove of evidence of out football greatness and of our national championship team.

We are the No. 5 all-time winningest program in the FCS subdivision, with 750 wins, trailing only Yale, Harvard, Penn and Princeton.

[GannonFan]

And you have to laugh at my teams because your teams are done and gone well before my teams are. How many weeks did you have to watch the Hens after Fordham finished strong with that closer-than-the-final-score-indicated 5 TD loss to Colgate? Come on, you can admit it, you have Blue Hen envy. It's cool Joe, we'll gladly let you join the rest of us. But hey, no spitting allowed - we know how you NY types get all frothy at the mouth when the games start.

Hey Gannonfan, you know I like you. Maybe someday you can venture out of your little suburb of New York -- and come to the Big City itself. I'd be happy to show you around Fordham. You can admire our Sugar Bowl trophy and I can show our treasure trove of evidence of out football greatness and of our national championship team.

Great, sounds like fun. As with most things relating to Fordham and titles, I'll bring my own dust rag. And maybe some Pledge or other cleaner. The dust must be at least an inch thick now, no? Can we tour the cemeteries where most of those Fordham guys have long since gone to their eternal rest? Nothing says a vacation like photos of tombstones.

[JoltinJoe]

Hey Gannonfan, you know I like you. Maybe someday you can venture out of your little suburb of New York -- and come to the Big City itself. I'd be happy to show you around Fordham. You can admire our Sugar Bowl trophy and I can show our treasure trove of evidence of out football greatness and of our national championship team.

Great, sounds like fun. As with most things relating to Fordham and titles, I'll bring my own dust rag. And maybe some Pledge or other cleaner. The dust must be at least an inch thick now, no? Can we tour the cemeteries where most of those Fordham guys have long since gone to their eternal rest? Nothing says a vacation like photos of tombstones.

Now, don't be jealous just because Delaware will never will a major bowl championship. Delaware has other things going for it -- for example, there is no better three quarter team in the FCS right now than Delaware.

[GannonFan]

Great, sounds like fun. As with most things relating to Fordham and titles, I'll bring my own dust rag. And maybe some Pledge or other cleaner. The dust must be at least an inch thick now, no? Can we tour the cemeteries where most of those Fordham guys have long since gone to their eternal rest? Nothing says a vacation like photos of tombstones.

Now, don't be jealous just because Delaware will never will a major bowl championship. Delaware has other things going for it -- for example, there is no better three quarter team in the FCS right now than Delaware.

Now now, don't be all bitter because you missed out on actually seeing Fordham win that bowl game. I mean, most people missed it, what with WWII going on and all. But I'm sure the stories you heard about it decades later must have made you feel like you were actually there.

[89Hen]

Yeah, ignore the fact that you can see a white NY logo on the left chest of the jacket.

There is NO NY logo visible anywhere in this video. Not on the jacket; not on anything.

You can keep fooling yourself, but you're not fooling anyone here.

[89Hen]

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Commentary by 89Hen:

Here is another video of a derelict Yankee fan and his friend acting drunk and rowdy at Oriole Park.

You can plainly see that this fan is wearing an orange Yankee jersey with a NY plainly visible on the chest; he is wearing "21" on the back and you can plainly see "O'Neill" in lettering on the top of the back of the jersey.

Nope. Unlike the other video, there aren't any Yankees fans in plain sight. Also, the tag says it was opening day 2010 which would have made their opponent Toronto. Nothing points to this being the Yankees... unlike the other video where EVERYTHING points to it being Yankees fans. Keep trying to make stuff up Joe, that's all you can do on this thread.

[JoltinJoe]

Nope. Unlike the other video, there aren't any Yankees fans in plain sight.

Yes, and you forgot to mention that the center fielder too is in plain sight, and is obviously a Yankee.

[89Hen]

Nope. Unlike the other video, there aren't any Yankees fans in plain sight.

Yes, and you forgot to mention that the center fielder too is in plain sight, and is obviously a Yankee.

I can't help it if you're blind and nonobservant.

[GannonFan]

Yes, and you forgot to mention that the center fielder too is in plain sight, and is obviously a Yankee.

I can't help it if you're blind and nonobservant.

He's too busy using a ouija board and trying to conjure up the spirit of someone who actually witnessed Fordham's bowl victory and football success so that he can try to feel like he lived through it. You can't be busy with small details when you're trying to travel back in time. He's like that Emmit Brown guy from "Back to the Future".

[JoltinJoe]

He's like that Emmit Brown guy from "Back to the Future".

Yes, I am brilliant. And good looking too.

[89Hen]

He's too busy using a ouija board and trying to conjure up the spirit of someone who actually witnessed Fordham's bowl victory and football success so that he can try to feel like he lived through it. You can't be busy with small details when you're trying to travel back in time. He's like that Emmit Brown guy from "Back to the Future".

Would have been a great game to see. Fordham 2 - Missouri 0

[JoltinJoe]

He's too busy using a ouija board and trying to conjure up the spirit of someone who actually witnessed Fordham's bowl victory and football success so that he can try to feel like he lived through it. You can't be busy with small details when you're trying to travel back in time. He's like that Emmit Brown guy from "Back to the Future".

Would have been a great game to see. Fordham 2 - Missouri 0

You're right. I'm sure that Sugar Bowl Delaware won would be better.

[GannonFan]

Would have been a great game to see. Fordham 2 - Missouri 0

You're right. I'm sure that Sugar Bowl Delaware won would be better.

Wouldn't have mattered to me one way or the other - I can't get terribly worked up about things my team did or didn't do decades before I was even born. Delaware was in the final top 20 UPI poll in '46 (#19, but strangely no sight of Fordham, but as you have pointed out, it's been all downhill for Fordham since '42) but that and a nickel only get me 5 cents.

[89Hen]

it's been all downhill for Fordham since '42

You think? Since 1945 they are 195-288-9. The only Patriot team with fewer wins is Georgetown (192).

[GannonFan]

it's been all downhill for Fordham since '42

You think? Since 1945 they are 195-288-9. The only Patriot team with fewer wins is Georgetown (192).

Well, on the bright side, that means they've had to do very little modifications to the trophy case over the past half century and more. Probably looks the same today as it did when the GI's were coming home from Europe.

[89Hen]

So how do they decide where Coffey Field and Houlihan Park start and end? Have you ever seen another school use their football field for baseball? I know Portland State has to share a baseball field, but that's in a second rate city for a team that hasn't even sniffed a Sugar Bowl. I would expect a high profile team like Fordham to have separate football and baseball fields. Does the visiting team have to remove second base from their sideline prior to kickoff?

[JoltinJoe]

We still have about 100 more wins all time than Delaware despite the fact we stopped playing varsity for about 20 years.

Oh, that's right. Nothing historical matters.

Makes you wonder why they bother keeping big historical record books?

[JoltinJoe]

So how do they decide where Coffey Field and Houlihan Park start and end? Have you ever seen another school use their football field for baseball? I know Portland State has to share a baseball field, but that's in a second rate city for a team that hasn't even sniffed a Sugar Bowl. I would expect a high profile team like Fordham to have separate football and baseball fields. Does the visiting team have to remove second base from their sideline prior to kickoff?

We hired this UD grad as our groundskeeper. It was his idea.



PS -- Like our football program, the Fordham baseball program is one of the nation's most storied programs. It is the oldest intercollegiate baseball team in the nation and, of course, produced one of the greatest baseball players ever, Frankie Frisch, a/k/a the "Fordham Flash." Fifty-six Fordham Rams have gone on to play major league baseball -- or 46 more than Delaware has produced. (Fordham's 57th big leaguer, Cory Riordan, will be a member of the Colorado Rockies in 2011).

Two Fordham Rams are members of the baseball Hall of Fame -- Frisch and Ed Walsh. No Delaware Blue Hen has ever made the Hall of Fame.

[89Hen]

We still have about 100 more wins all time than Delaware despite the fact we stopped playing varsity for about 20 years.

Oh, that's right. Nothing historical matters.

Makes you wonder why they bother keeping big historical record books?

Awesome. UD has 487 wins to your 195 since WWII. I'm sure Auburn is pissed that Yale has more Division I football championships than they do.

BTW, none of this takes away from the fact that Yankees fans have no class.

[GannonFan]

So how do they decide where Coffey Field and Houlihan Park start and end? Have you ever seen another school use their football field for baseball? I know Portland State has to share a baseball field, but that's in a second rate city for a team that hasn't even sniffed a Sugar Bowl. I would expect a high profile team like Fordham to have separate football and baseball fields. Does the visiting team have to remove second base from their sideline prior to kickoff?

We hired this UD grad as our groundskeeper. It was his idea.



PS -- Like our football program, the Fordham baseball program is one of the nation's most storied programs. It is the oldest intercollegiate baseball team in the nation and, of course, produced one of the greatest baseball players ever, Frankie Frisch, a/k/a the "Fordham Flash." Fifty-six Fordham Rams have gone on to play major league baseball -- or 46 more than Delaware has produced. (Fordham's 57th big leaguer, Cory Riordan, will be a member of the Colorado Rockies in 2011).

Two Fordham Rams are members of the baseball Hall of Fame -- Frisch and Ed Walsh. No Delaware Blue Hen has ever made the Hall of Fame.

Seriously man, 50 of those major leaguers made their major league debuts before baseball was even integrated. Heck, more than half of those guys were done their major league baseball careers before the Stock Market Crash - the 1929 one. I get it that you like history and especially revel in things you weren't even born anywhere close to, but doesn't it strike you odd and depressing that Fordham used to be so good and in the past half century (and more actually, almost 75 years now) has fallen so far? I mean, when you break out Frankie "the Fordham Flash" Frisch and realize the guy made his major league debut almost a century ago, you have to ask yourself where and when did Fordham go so far off the rails into athletic ineptitude? I feel for you Joe, I really do.

[89Hen]

Just like another famous team that had more victories than anyone else...

Joltin Joe fiddled, while Fordham burned...

[JoltinJoe]

We hired this UD grad as our groundskeeper. It was his idea.



PS -- Like our football program, the Fordham baseball program is one of the nation's most storied programs. It is the oldest intercollegiate baseball team in the nation and, of course, produced one of the greatest baseball players ever, Frankie Frisch, a/k/a the "Fordham Flash." Fifty-six Fordham Rams have gone on to play major league baseball -- or 46 more than Delaware has produced. (Fordham's 57th big leaguer, Cory Riordan, will be a member of the Colorado Rockies in 2011).

Two Fordham Rams are members of the baseball Hall of Fame -- Frisch and Ed Walsh. No Delaware Blue Hen has ever made the Hall of Fame.

Seriously man, 50 of those major leaguers made their major league debuts before baseball was even integrated. Heck, more than half of those guys were done their major league baseball careers before the Stock Market Crash - the 1929 one. I get it that you like history and especially revel in things you weren't even born anywhere close to, but doesn't it strike you odd and depressing that Fordham used to be so good and in the past half century (and more actually, almost 75 years now) has fallen so far? I mean, when you break out Frankie "the Fordham Flash" Frisch and realize the guy made his major league debut almost a century ago, you have to ask yourself where and when did Fordham go so far off the rails into athletic ineptitude? I feel for you Joe, I really do.

It's true Fordham once had nationally ranked programs in all sports, but its administration made a conscious decision to downgrade its athletic programs because of the perception that, in the post WWII years, big-time collegiate athletics were becoming too corrupt. How many schools have ever had a president who, like Fr. Gannon (relation? ), said, "I hope that we will never again have an outstanding football team."

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At Fordham, there has been debate over the years if Fr. Gannon properly responded to the fear of corruption in big-time athletics. Fr. Gannon was said to be furious when, during the pre-WWII era, he would go to events and be asked about Fordham's football team -- instead about its nationally regarded departments such as the English Lit, or theology, or philosophy. He felt Catholic schools were being looked down upon because they supported big-time athletics.

In retrospect, Notre Dame has certainly prospered BECAUSE of big-time football and has no doubt surpassed Fordham as the nation's top Catholic school in the past 60 years. BC and Georgetown too have pole vaulted over Fordham in reputation over the past 30-35 years, using big-time athletics as a marketing tool. When I looked at colleges, BC and Fordham were of equal difficulty to gain admission, and Georgetown was only slightly more competitive. Today, it is even slightly more difficult to get into Villanova, even though its academic programs really lack the depth and renown of Fordham's, at least in the liberal arts.

So, yes, it is a disappointment, because our athletic tradition is a great asset which has been squandered. But I believe it is also a rich history which is now being emphasized for the first time in 65 years.

[GannonFan]

Hey Joe, I'm probably leaving now for the night. With dinner and helping the kids with homework, I probably won't be on for maybe as long as 18 hours. Good time now to throw a post in there and then come back 12 hours later and claim that I'm in hiding. Seriously, though, have a good night. Thumbing through black and white photos from former Fordham greats hob-knobing with President Roosevelt (Teddy, not Franklin) should make for a great evening. See ya!

[Grizalltheway]

Great, sounds like fun. As with most things relating to Fordham and titles, I'll bring my own dust rag. And maybe some Pledge or other cleaner. The dust must be at least an inch thick now, no? Can we tour the cemeteries where most of those Fordham guys have long since gone to their eternal rest? Nothing says a vacation like photos of tombstones.

Now, don't be jealous just because Delaware will never will a major bowl championship. Delaware has other things going for it -- for example, there is no better three quarter team in the FCS right now than Delaware.

I hesitate to step between two east coast elitists going at it, but what exactly does a "major bowl championship" mean, in the grand scheme of things? Isn't it kind of like having the best record in spring training?