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GannonFan wrote:Hey Joe, I'm probably leaving now for the night. With dinner and helping the kids with homework, I probably won't be on for maybe as long as 18 hours. Good time now to throw a post in there and then come back 12 hours later and claim that I'm in hiding. Seriously, though, have a good night. Thumbing through black and white photos from former Fordham greats hob-knobing with President Roosevelt (Teddy, not Franklin) should make for a great evening. See ya! :rofl:
That's cool. This has been fun, GF.

Have a good night ....


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Grizalltheway wrote:
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Now, don't be jealous just because Delaware will never will a major bowl championship. Delaware has other things going for it -- for example, there is no better three quarter team in the FCS right now than Delaware.
I hesitate to step between two east coast elitists going at it, but what exactly does a "major bowl championship" mean, in the grand scheme of things? Isn't it kind of like having the best record in spring training? :?
Too busy to respond. Mummy and I are taking Biff and Chip to dinner at the club.

Ok, now that I have some time. In the 1930s and 1940s, there were four bowl games: Sugar, Rose, Cotton and Orange. In order to get invited to a bowl game, you essentially had to finish among the top 10 teams in the country.

Later, starting in the 1940s, other bowl games were organized. However, the four original bowl games remained the games that college teams aimed to make. Teams wouldn't accept bids to these other bowl games until the invitations to the original bowl games had gone out. Around this time, football writers began using the term "major bowl game" to distinguish the Sugar, Rose, Cotton and Orange Bowls from the other bowls.

So, the term "major bowl champion" was a term used to describe a team which had won a Sugar, Rose, Cotton or Orange Bowl. Within the past 15-20 years, the Fiesta Bowl has managed to achieve status as a "major bowl" and is today generally understood to be included when someone refers to a "major bowl game."
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JoltinJoe wrote:How many schools have ever had a president who, like Fr. Gannon said, "I hope that we will never again have an outstanding football team."
Two. Fordham and Hofstra. Both NY schools. :?
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Oh... I thought this was going to be a thread about the sentencing of the Drunk yankee fan who killed a Red Sox fan with her car... or maybe about the Yankee fan who stabbed a Red Sox fan... I also thought it could have been the story in the NYT about the common theme of criminals in the city is wearing Yankees gear...


... I was mistaken. Carry on.


I'll add this though, since Joe is posting photos too:

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But hey, it's not like the Yankees fans are vomiting on other fans or prostituting themselves for playoff tickets... ;)
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JoltinJoe wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
I hesitate to step between two east coast elitists going at it, but what exactly does a "major bowl championship" mean, in the grand scheme of things? Isn't it kind of like having the best record in spring training? :?
Too busy to respond. Mummy and I are taking Biff and Chip to dinner at the club.

Ok, now that I have some time. In the 1930s and 1940s, there were four bowl games: Sugar, Rose, Cotton and Orange. In order to get invited to a bowl game, you essentially had to finish among the top 10 teams in the country.

Later, starting in the 1940s, other bowl games were organized. However, the four original bowl games remained the games that college teams aimed to make. Teams wouldn't accept bids to these other bowl games until the invitations to the original bowl games had gone out. Around this time, football writers began using the term "major bowl game" to distinguish the Sugar, Rose, Cotton and Orange Bowls from the other bowls.

So, the term "major bowl champion" was a term used to describe a team which had won a Sugar, Rose, Cotton or Orange Bowl. Within the past 15-20 years, the Fiesta Bowl has managed to achieve status as a "major bowl" and is today generally understood to be included when someone refers to a "major bowl game."
That's all great. :| But, does Fordham have any actual national championships, like UD?
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Grizalltheway wrote:That's all great. :| But, does Fordham have any actual national championships, like UD?
Heck, we even have ficticious ones too! ;)
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Grizalltheway wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
Too busy to respond. Mummy and I are taking Biff and Chip to dinner at the club.

Ok, now that I have some time. In the 1930s and 1940s, there were four bowl games: Sugar, Rose, Cotton and Orange. In order to get invited to a bowl game, you essentially had to finish among the top 10 teams in the country.

Later, starting in the 1940s, other bowl games were organized. However, the four original bowl games remained the games that college teams aimed to make. Teams wouldn't accept bids to these other bowl games until the invitations to the original bowl games had gone out. Around this time, football writers began using the term "major bowl game" to distinguish the Sugar, Rose, Cotton and Orange Bowls from the other bowls.

So, the term "major bowl champion" was a term used to describe a team which had won a Sugar, Rose, Cotton or Orange Bowl. Within the past 15-20 years, the Fiesta Bowl has managed to achieve status as a "major bowl" and is today generally understood to be included when someone refers to a "major bowl game."
That's all great. :| But, does Fordham have any actual national championships, like UD?
Fordham played major college football before there was any formal process to crown a consensus national champion, but its 1929 and 1937 teams have been considered national champions by historical sources.

Still, I'll take a Sugar Bowl championship over a FCS/I-AA championship any day.
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JMU DJ wrote:Oh... I thought this was going to be a thread about the sentencing of the Drunk yankee fan who killed a Red Sox fan with her car... or maybe about the Yankee fan who stabbed a Red Sox fan... I also thought it could have been the story in the NYT about the common theme of criminals in the city is wearing Yankees gear...


... I was mistaken. Carry on.


I'll add this though, since Joe is posting photos too:

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Sketch for criminal suspect:
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But hey, it's not like the Yankees fans are vomiting on other fans or prostituting themselves for playoff tickets... ;)

All that work over lil ole me? I didn't know you even cared. :oops:
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JoltinJoe wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
That's all great. :| But, does Fordham have any actual national championships, like UD?
Fordham played major college football before there was any formal process to crown a consensus national champion, but its 1929 and 1937 teams have been considered national champions by historical sources.

Still, I'll take a Sugar Bowl championship over a FCS/I-AA championship any day.
:rofl: :rofl:

Can't say I'm surprised. :coffee:
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JoltinJoe wrote:Fordham played major college football before there was any formal process to crown a consensus national champion, but its 1929 and 1937 teams have been considered national champions by historical sources.

Still, I'll take a Sugar Bowl championship over a FCS/I-AA championship any day.
What sources are those? The sources I've seen list Notre Dame as the 1929 champ and Pitt in '37.

As for your final statement, you are probably alone in that one, unless you're talking about a recent Sugar Bowl, or we find some fans of other Sugar Bowl participants of your era: Santa Clara, Oklahoma A&M, Carnegie Tech, St Mary's...
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89Hen wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:Fordham played major college football before there was any formal process to crown a consensus national champion, but its 1929 and 1937 teams have been considered national champions by historical sources.

Still, I'll take a Sugar Bowl championship over a FCS/I-AA championship any day.
What sources are those? The sources I've seen list Notre Dame as the 1929 champ and Pitt in '37.

As for your final statement, you are probably alone in that one, unless you're talking about a recent Sugar Bowl, or we find some fans of other Sugar Bowl participants of your era: Santa Clara, Oklahoma A&M, Carnegie Tech, St Mary's...
Sorenson 1929:

http://www.phys.utk.edu/sorensen/cfr/cf ... _Best.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

will get a 1937 link later
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JoltinJoe wrote:Sorenson 1929:

http://www.phys.utk.edu/sorensen/cfr/cf ... _Best.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

will get a 1937 link later
Don't bother. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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JoltinJoe wrote: Still, I'll take a Sugar Bowl championship over a FCS/I-AA championship any day.
You'll take a victory in a game you weren't even alive for versus a game that you could actually see today? Again, as the other poster said, not terribly surprising coming from you. I'd rather be alive and see the accomplishment. But that's just me...and probably 99% of people out there.
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All that work over lil ole me? I didn't know you even cared. :oops:

:lol:


Nah, that only took me 5 seconds... all of those stories were conveniently located on one website.
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