SUPER BOWL XLV

[SuperHornet]

New England Patriots 3*-3**

* - with sign stealing video
** - without video

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Are you sure about that? Are you completely sure that they didn't cheat in those losses (outside of the Bears debacle, anyway), and it wasn't just swept under the carpet because they fell short?

[Fresno St. Alum]

Most NFL titles

Green Bay- 13
Chicago- 9
Cleveland- 8
NY Giants- 7
Pittsburgh- 6
Washington- 5
Dallas- 5
San Fran- 5
Indianapolis- 5

Cleveland should be 4. They won 4 AAFC titles but didn't merge with the NFL like the AFL did. They just took the best 2 AAFC teams(Browns & 49ers) and brought them in to the NFL. Where every AFL team was included in the NFL. It would be like the current NFL bringing in Montreal Alouettes and Edmonton Eskimos. You're not gonna count their CFL titles in the NFL.

[Fresno St. Alum]

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Are you sure about that? Are you completely sure that they didn't cheat in those losses (outside of the Bears debacle, anyway), and it wasn't just swept under the carpet because they fell short?

No one cares if you cheat and still lose. But if you win, people will ask, did that make the difference?

[Gil Dobie]

Link

Super Bowl Ratings Cap Record Year for N.F.L.

The National Football League finished off its biggest television year ever with the most-watched television program of all time, as Super Bowl XLV averaged 111 million viewers on the Fox network.

And it wasn’t a squeaker. The game surpassed last year’s Super Bowl by 4.5 million viewers. That game, on CBS, reached the pinnacle of American television viewing by hitting 106.5 million total viewers, just half a million more than what had been television’s perennial audience champ, the finale of the series “M*A*S*H,” in 1983, which attracted 106 million viewers.

And of course, the Super Bowl numbers only include viewers watching in homes; they do not include parties watching in bars – or in the parking lot outside Cowboy Stadium in Dallas.

The figure for total number of viewers watching at least some part of the game also set a new record with 162.9 million, also well up from the previous record of 153.4 million last year. That puts the number watching the game well past one half of the total population of the United States – 308 million in the 2010 census.

[JayJ79]

I find the obsession with cutting off NFL history to only include the time period from the mid 60's to now to be interesting. I mean, there were 40 years of NFL football prior to the first Super Bowl, and those titles are every bit legit and real. I think Green Bay is up to 13 titles now. I mean, we don't discount titles won when the classification was known as 1-AA and now just count FCS titles, do we?

What about before I-AA, when it was "College Division" and "University Division"?

[GannonFan]

I find the obsession with cutting off NFL history to only include the time period from the mid 60's to now to be interesting. I mean, there were 40 years of NFL football prior to the first Super Bowl, and those titles are every bit legit and real. I think Green Bay is up to 13 titles now. I mean, we don't discount titles won when the classification was known as 1-AA and now just count FCS titles, do we?

What about before I-AA, when it was "College Division" and "University Division"?

I wouldn't disagree with that - there's always been the top level of college football (currently called FBS) and there's always been the next level down of college football (currently called FCS) - the only things that have changed over the years are what we call those levels, whether we've had playoffs or not, and the membership (teams moving up and down). But there's always been the top level and then the next level down - that's always existed.