UNC Charlotte will have football

[49RFootballNow]

I wasn't going to stick my nose into the UNC Charlotte dogpile but now I'm pissed so I shall.

First off you have to realize that the city of Charlotte NC has a huge ego. They envision themselves as being far "ahead of" Hotlanta in the race to be the center of the New South. Professional sports in Charlotte is hit or miss. If the team is doing well the turnstiles turn and the team makes money. Conversely, if the team is doing poorly tickets don't sell, seats stay empty and the owner talks in the media about moving the team.

I see you live in Charlotte. There are 2 interstates and a US highway that head 6 directions out of town. You can get on away one of those and find a place you'ld like to live better. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

College sports fans are extremely diverse and loyal to teams all over the country. Few people in Charlotte, other than UNC Charlotte alums, have an affinity for the university and/or it's athletic programs. The only time UNC Charlotte basketball drew big crowds and excited the population was during the "Cornbread" Maxwell run into the final four in 1977. Since that time attendance at UNC Charlotte basketball has been only fair to poor. UNC Charlotte built a fine arena for basketball whose seats, other than the student section, are nearly empty.

Thank goodness that we have 70,000 alums living in the Charlotte region. As for our basketball attendance, we average around 7000 per home game the last 15 years. That puts us in the top 25% of DI in total attendance and percentage of arena capacity. We regularly sold out games between 1990 and 2005 when we were in the Metro and CUSA. I'll hold our attendance up against most people's alma maters' any day.

UNC Charlotte is having a hard time selling football. Their season ticket PSL program so far has come far short of half of it's projection and has pretty well petered out. This despite the fact that UNC Charlotte's Judy Rose and her lobbyists managed to "obtain" NC tax money for the construction of a "teaching facility" (i.e. stadium). Under state law, state supported institutions are forbidden from using tax money for stadium construction as well as athletic programs. So, like UNC, Appy, ECU and the others, they disguise appropriations as "educational facilities". NC state government is as crooked as Jersey's!

We have sold 3500 FSL's so far of the 5000 offered and 3200 before we even had final approval for the program.

Not one penny of NC taxpayers' money has gone into our football stadium. It's a debt service fee, to be paid off in student fees which our students vote 85% to pay for. You have done ZERO research into this topic and are spreading lies.

Like the city of Charlotte, UNC Charlotte, and especially the 49er athletic supporters, have a huge overinflated ego. They will tell you of being a dominating team in FCS in just a few short years and of glorious plans to be playing in the ACC someday. Some of that ego is evident in the posts by 49er fans here. They simply don't believe that 49er football will have to learn to crawl before learning to walk!

You are a professional sir. A professional tool.

[T-Dog]

This despite the fact that UNC-C's Judy Rose and her lobbyists managed to "obtain" NC tax money for the construction of a "teaching facility" (i.e. stadium). Under state law, state supported institutions are forbidden from using tax money for stadium construction as well as athletic programs. So, like UNC, Appy, ECU and the others, they disguise appropriations as "educational facilities".

The UNC System is screwed up anyway so who can blame the other 16 schools in the system not in Chapel Hill for skirting the crooked rules to build needed facilities. The BOD wouldn't fund a much-needed bigger library at App for a long time, but they gladly appropriated tax dollars to build the Dean Dome under the label of an "educational facility".

[huthuthut]

The UNC System is screwed up anyway so who can blame the other 16 schools in the system not in Chapel Hill for skirting the crooked rules to build needed facilities. The BOD wouldn't fund a much-needed bigger library at App for a long time, but they gladly appropriated tax dollars to build the Dean Dome under the label of an "educational facility".

I'm glad you know the truth. Others, like our misguided and misinformed UNC-C friend here have swallowed the Kool Aide and deny, deny deny. Phony appropriation bills for athletic facilities have been rammed through the NC legislature under the guise of "educational facility" since the Reynolds Coliseum days. Although the Dean Dome is the most famous mismanagement of taxpayer revenue, ALL of the athletic programs in the UNC system have had their hands in the state treasury. UNC-W has plans for building a multi-million dollar natatorium. They say they are going to pay for it with student fees and donations. Do the math. Student fees raised $100 per semester for 50 years would not pay for it! It's the same scam. They are going to teach swimming classes in that pool so it is needed as an "educational facility".

You are probably aware of the "special exemption" passed by the state legislature 5 years ago allowing out of state athletes to enroll in schools in the UNC system at in-state tuition. In-state tuition is about 1/3 (or less) of the cost of out of state tuition. That makes spreading scholarship money easier as well as encouraging walkons since the tuition is so low. Only athletes can receive this break, no one else. When you take into consideration all of the athletes at all of the schools in the UNC system this is a tremendous loss to the state treasury, and to the taxpayers of this state. If I lived in another state and had a son that was a great Tuba player who wanted to study at UNC-C he couldn't get this kind of break. However, if he was a great basketball player I'm sure Judy Rose would make sure he got the tuition break.

[T-Dog]

The out-of-state exemption was struck down last year and went into effect for this budget year. Here's how much was added on to each school's athletics bill.

UNC $2,461,032
N.C. State $1,873,943
Appalachian State $1,131,526
East Carolina $841,120
Western Carolina $618,338
UNCG $439,904
Charlotte $437,304
N.C. Central $389,760
UNC-Asheville $371,845
UNC-Wilmington $305,653
Elizabeth City State $178,019
N.C. A&T $94,420

Of course some schools are now doing more in-state recruiting to minimize the cost.

[49RFootballNow]

The UNC System is screwed up anyway so who can blame the other 16 schools in the system not in Chapel Hill for skirting the crooked rules to build needed facilities. The BOD wouldn't fund a much-needed bigger library at App for a long time, but they gladly appropriated tax dollars to build the Dean Dome under the label of an "educational facility".

I'm glad you know the truth. Others, like our misguided and misinformed UNC-C friend here have swallowed the Kool Aide and deny, deny deny. Phony appropriation bills for athletic facilities have been rammed through the NC legislature under the guise of "educational facility" since the Reynolds Coliseum days. Although the Dean Dome is the most famous mismanagement of taxpayer revenue, ALL of the athletic programs in the UNC system have had their hands in the state treasury. UNC-W has plans for building a multi-million dollar natatorium. They say they are going to pay for it with student fees and donations. Do the math. Student fees raised $100 per semester for 50 years would not pay for it! It's the same scam. They are going to teach swimming classes in that pool so it is needed as an "educational facility".

You are probably aware of the "special exemption" passed by the state legislature 5 years ago allowing out of state athletes to enroll in schools in the UNC system at in-state tuition. In-state tuition is about 1/3 (or less) of the cost of out of state tuition. That makes spreading scholarship money easier as well as encouraging walkons since the tuition is so low. Only athletes can receive this break, no one else. When you take into consideration all of the athletes at all of the schools in the UNC system this is a tremendous loss to the state treasury, and to the taxpayers of this state. If I lived in another state and had a son that was a great Tuba player who wanted to study at UNC Charlotte he couldn't get this kind of break. However, if he was a great basketball player I'm sure Judy Rose would make sure he got the tuition break.

I noticed you decided to not refute anything I said in my last post. You just wanted to spew some misguided hate our way. Funny and classy.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that Chapel Hill, and to a slightly less extent NCSU, get athletics facilities "supported" by state funds. That benefit, however, does not extend to the other 14 campuses in the system. Neither App, or ECU or Charlotte gets state funds for our athletics facilities. You can't come to UNC Charlotte and point to one sports facility that has any state funds in it. Student fees, sports revenues and donations pay for all non-academics facilities on our campuses. I'd dare say the same is true at any other UNC System school not in the Triangle.

I don't know where your anger is coming from, but you should get your facts straight before you spew your mouth diarrhea around.

[49RFootballNow]

More from The Chest on Charlotte 49ers football

http://gmine.blogspot.com/2011/02/amato ... 49ers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[∞∞∞]

Looking a little too far ahead, but Charlotte will play Virginia Tech in 2019.

http://gmine.blogspot.com/2011/02/49ers ... z1DWMLg280

[huthuthut]

Two events have transpired since my last post. (1) UNC-C AD Judy Rose announced that she will have a football coach in place by March who will not be the head football coach when football starts. (I'll attempt to translate that illogical "UNC-C speak" rhetoric later) (2) The city of Charlotte announced that they have agreed to fork out multi-millions to host the Democratic National Convention despite a huge budget shortfall.

As previously stated UNC-C, like the city of Charlotte suffers from a form of dementia in which the head becomes so puffed up and pompous that it swells to enormous proportions. This causes balance problems and UNC-C students, especially basketball players, frequently fall flat on their faces as I witnessed recently in a UNC-C home game. One could easily surmise that a UNC-C football players might spend more time pulling their huge heads out of the sand than their tiny behinds.

One of the last things I would ever want to be is a UNC-C coach. The Athletic Department goes through coaches like Ex-Lax. They've had some great basketball coaches and soccer coaches who have turned their programs around and had good winning seasons. Once they have one bad season though, they are in hot water and are usually gone by the next.

Let's face facts. UNC-C football is going to stink for a few years. Even the most loyal "homer" has to accept that. Virtually anyone the 49ers play, including Matthews' Pop Warner Tigers, will more than likely take them to the woodshed. Yet, UNC-C proudly boasts a home and home contract with an ACC power. That is a perfect example of the overinflated craniums of UNC-C!

Judy Rose's March hiring is supposed to be pretty much an administrative football coach who is to get the ball rolling. Transitional, if you will. He, or possibly she (given UNC-C's penchant for headline grabbing), will establish and coordinate support for services and materials. They will not do any actual coaching of football players. That will be done by the "coach to be named later".

[ninerid]

One of the last things I would ever want to be is a UNC-C coach. The Athletic Department goes through coaches like Ex-Lax. They've had some great basketball coaches and soccer coaches who have turned their programs around and had good winning seasons. Once they have one bad season though, they are in hot water and are usually gone by the next.

Our baseball coach has been the same guy since 1993
In recent history. . . .
Our volleyball coach resigned due to having twins.
We lost our golf coach to Duke
We lost our last 2 women's basketball coaches to Miami and Florida
We lost our women's soccer coach to Kentucky
Then we fired Bobby Lutz for missing the NCAA tourney for 5 straight years and an inability to coach basketball.

UNC-C proudly boasts a home and home contract with an ACC power. That is a perfect example of the overinflated craniums of UNC-C!

it isn't a home and home.

Judy Rose's March hiring is supposed to be pretty much an administrative football coach who is to get the ball rolling. Transitional, if you will. He, or possibly she (given UNC-C's penchant for headline grabbing), will establish and coordinate support for services and materials. They will not do any actual coaching of football players. That will be done by the "coach to be named later".

There is no piece of information that would even allude to this being the case.

[DKHardee]

what's the latest on a possible conference?

[ninerid]

what's the latest on a possible conference?

here is a good read

http://gmine.blogspot.com/2011/02/handi ... rence.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Personally I want the Big South for football only.

[49RFootballNow]

Two events have transpired since my last post. (1) UNC-C AD Judy Rose announced that she will have a football coach in place by March who will not be the head football coach when football starts. (I'll attempt to translate that illogical "UNC-C speak" rhetoric later) (2) The city of Charlotte announced that they have agreed to fork out multi-millions to host the Democratic National Convention despite a huge budget shortfall.

As previously stated UNC-C, like the city of Charlotte suffers from a form of dementia in which the head becomes so puffed up and pompous that it swells to enormous proportions. This causes balance problems and UNC-C students, especially basketball players, frequently fall flat on their faces as I witnessed recently in a UNC-C home game. One could easily surmise that a UNC-C football players might spend more time pulling their huge heads out of the sand than their tiny behinds.

One of the last things I would ever want to be is a UNC-C coach. The Athletic Department goes through coaches like Ex-Lax. They've had some great basketball coaches and soccer coaches who have turned their programs around and had good winning seasons. Once they have one bad season though, they are in hot water and are usually gone by the next.

Let's face facts. UNC-C football is going to stink for a few years. Even the most loyal "homer" has to accept that. Virtually anyone the 49ers play, including Matthews' Pop Warner Tigers, will more than likely take them to the woodshed. Yet, UNC-C proudly boasts a home and home contract with an ACC power. That is a perfect example of the overinflated craniums of UNC-C!

Judy Rose's March hiring is supposed to be pretty much an administrative football coach who is to get the ball rolling. Transitional, if you will. He, or possibly she (given UNC-C's penchant for headline grabbing), will establish and coordinate support for services and materials. They will not do any actual coaching of football players. That will be done by the "coach to be named later".

Good God man! You really need to seek professional help for your odd "UNC-C/Judy Rose" related Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. There's not 1 bit of fact in anything you said except we're playing Virginia Tech, and you even got half that wrong.

[S F State Gaters]

More football is good!

California needs more footbalL!

[elcid83]

The CAA will push hard for Charlotte to be a full member. And there are a lot of positive points for Charlotte to make the move. Yes, A-10 basketball has been historically better overall, but not that much better (right now they are one spot ahead of the CAA and the CAA holds a 9-7 record against A-10 teams this year). And Charlotte basketball is not one of the elite A-10 programs. I'll bet, if Charlotte had it's choice, they would be A-10 basketball, and CAA in all other sports. But the CAA will play hardball for all sports. It will be interesting to see who blinks first.

I've heard 2nd hand UNCC will ask the Big South for an associate FB membership, for 5 or 6 seasons, before moving to 1-A........

If the Big South got UNC-C for a committed 6 years, that would take a lot of pressure off of the BS ADs who are finding it difficult to schedule enough home games for their fanbases. Here's hoping the powers that be at the Big South do the right thing.

Go Runnin' Bulldogs!

[Sly Fox]

If the powers that be at the Big South still includes Kyle I wouldn't hold my breath.

Sure, it makes a great deal of sense for Charlotte to join the Big South as an affiliate. By all appearances it should happen.

As for the Observer blog entry, I just wasted five minutes of my life reading the ridiculous comments (yea, I should know better). But it was very enlightening. Who knew the MEAC was head & shoulders above the Big South which has "glorified club teams" like Liberty & Coastal Carolina?

[49RFootballNow]

If the powers that be at the Big South still includes Kyle I wouldn't hold my breath.

Sure, it makes a great deal of sense for Charlotte to join the Big South as an affiliate. By all appearances it should happen.

As for the Observer blog entry, I just wasted five minutes of my life reading the ridiculous comments (yea, I should know better). But it was very enlightening. Who knew the MEAC was head & shoulders above the Big South which has "glorified club teams" like Liberty & Coastal Carolina?

Coastal's AD came out in the summer and said that he wanted Charlotte in the conference and most of his fellow AD's agreed with him. Kallendar works for them so if they want us there's not a whole lot he could do to fubar that.

As for the Goldmine blog, when you share a newspaper with 5 ACC teams, an SEC team, and App., plus just plain idiots; you'll get all kinds of crazies posting garbage.

[henfan]

May UNCC and the Big South have a long successful relationship. I'm all for it.

[JMUpurplehazed]

UNCC's lady AD recently took a dump on the CAA in a newspaper article. I would call her a bitch (the program has no stadium or team yet) but the comments came off as stupidity on her part, not overlooking the CAA...what?

[JMUpurplehazed]

VT not only wants to play FCS teams, VT wants to play startup FCS teams... The mighty Chokies, the 2011 ACshe Champs have not forgotten the 21-16 JMU beat down

[49RFootballNow]

UNCC's lady AD recently took a dump on the CAA in a newspaper article. I would call her a bitch (the program has no stadium or team yet) but the comments came off as stupidity on her part, not overlooking the CAA...what?

Yeah? What article would that be?

[BlackFalkin]

Nobody cares if theres another shxtty fcs team in North Carolina okay? There, i said it!

[huthuthut]

UNCC's lady AD recently took a dump on the CAA in a newspaper article. I would call her a bitch (the program has no stadium or team yet) but the comments came off as stupidity on her part, not overlooking the CAA...what?

I think you must be referring to that not so subtle Judy Rose Kiss my ass comment at the D1AA summit: "we're not going to harm basketball for football". Jaws dropped all around the room, there was a profound moment of dead silence, followed by someone clearing their throat.

Rose's comment is typical of the UNC-C arrogance. Oh, by the way, they don't want to be called UNC-C any longer. The athletic department now officially goes by the moniker Charlotte 49ers. That's what they want to roll across the bottom of the ESPN scoreboard. They don't want to be associated with, identified with or confused with those other trite, minor institutions in the UNC system. Heaven forbid anyone confuse the high and mighty Charlotte 49ers with the UNC Tarheels or NC State Wolfpack.

That's Charlotte 49er football, not UNC-C football to you buster...and don't you forget it.

[ninerid]

Rose's comment is typical of the UNC-C arrogance. Oh, by the way, they don't want to be called UNC-C any longer. The athletic department now officially goes by the moniker Charlotte 49ers. That's what they want to roll across the bottom of the ESPN scoreboard. They don't want to be associated with, identified with or confused with those other trite, minor institutions in the UNC system. Heaven forbid anyone confuse the high and mighty Charlotte 49ers with the UNC Tarheels or NC State Wolfpack.

by your logic shouldn't you have called them the UNC-Chapel Hill Tarheels?

[49RFootballNow]

UNCC's lady AD recently took a dump on the CAA in a newspaper article. I would call her a bitch (the program has no stadium or team yet) but the comments came off as stupidity on her part, not overlooking the CAA...what?

I think you must be referring to that not so subtle Judy Rose Kiss my ass comment at the D1AA summit: "we're not going to harm basketball for football". Jaws dropped all around the room, there was a profound moment of dead silence, followed by someone clearing their throat.

Rose's comment is typical of the UNC-C arrogance. Oh, by the way, they don't want to be called UNC-C any longer. The athletic department now officially goes by the moniker Charlotte 49ers. That's what they want to roll across the bottom of the ESPN scoreboard. They don't want to be associated with, identified with or confused with those other trite, minor institutions in the UNC system. Heaven forbid anyone confuse the high and mighty Charlotte 49ers with the UNC Tarheels or NC State Wolfpack.

That's Charlotte 49er football, not UNC-C football to you buster...and don't you forget it.

Wow, you can't get anything right can you? DIAA wants to be called FCS now. If Judy was there in Texas before the Champ Game this year there was no news of it, and I doubt you would know anyway given your previous comment quality in this thread. Now go pester App fans about how they don't want to be associated with UNC-Ch and NCSU because they won't change their name to UNC Boone.

[huthuthut]

I noticed in the Charlotte Post that Rev. Kojo Nantambu, President of the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Branch NAACP made a formal request to Judy Rose and the Athletic Department of the Charlotte 49ers to change the mascot from the nondescript "C with a pickaxe" back to the original dark faced characture. Charlotte's prosperous gold mines were mined with slave labor. The Carolina Gold Rush began in the 1820's and lasted until the war of Northern aggression. Gold was once mined in what is now downtown Charlotte as well as all over Mecklenburg County. There was once a U.S. Mint in Charlotte.

Nantambu correctly points out that for the 49ers to be truthful about the history of the area, the 49er characture of a miner should be dark faced to represent those enslaved black laborers.